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nipsey
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"EA really trying to get people not to buy NBA Live 2018"


  

          

Stephen A. Smith and Max Kellerman made up First Take segments for NBA Live ’18



http://awfulannouncing.com/gaming/stephen-smith-max-kellerman-made-first-take-segments-nba-live-18.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

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What an unfortunate waste of resources.
Aug 10th 2017
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I'll be honest, I loved Tony Bruno in Madden
Aug 10th 2017
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one step forward: wnba. two steps back
Aug 11th 2017
3
I can't get over how much this series has fallen
Aug 11th 2017
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The problem was they gutted the whole thing
Aug 11th 2017
5
I disagree with everything you just said.
Aug 11th 2017
6
      i feel like Live should be more of an arcade experience
Aug 11th 2017
7
      They need to pull an NFL 2K5 and come out the gate at $20
Aug 11th 2017
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      This.
Aug 13th 2017
14
      someone already made that, NBA Playgrounds.
Aug 11th 2017
11
      i don't understand how they don't have time
Aug 11th 2017
8
           when they've taken time off, they're scrapped and started again
Aug 11th 2017
10
           I'm sure the Mike Wang era was bad for morale
Aug 13th 2017
13
                I have no experience with either franchise, but the last line is funny
Aug 14th 2017
15
Very stiff and slow.
Aug 13th 2017
12
playing the demo
Aug 22nd 2017
16
man...i couldn't play more than 5 mins of that demo
Sep 05th 2017
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Bring back NBA Street
Aug 22nd 2017
17

IkeMoses
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1. "What an unfortunate waste of resources."
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You know it's drama, but it sound real good.

  

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Nodima
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2. "I'll be honest, I loved Tony Bruno in Madden"
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and MLB The Show has a radio feature summarizing the week that's actually kind of cool and dynamic too, but I don't really play the franchise mode 'cause I'm so stuck on Diamond Dynasty.

I'd really love to see a franchise mode nail this kind of thing, though. 2K doesn't get enough out of the studio segments they do and even with the dynamic announcers they just don't have enough content in the pipeline to avoid repetition yet.

but yea, that Bruno radio show I was obsessed with and I really enjoyed the Spots Illustrated stuff in the PS2 NCAA games too. but the way these games have all moved towards the fantasy teams / create-a-player modes for the microtransactions and YouTuber money I'm not necessarily surprised EA did this or that it's only for the career mode, but it does seem like a total waste of time and money for a game we're not even sure plays well.

they got the WNBA for this game too. classic "jack of all trades, master of none" EA Sports in the HD era.

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3. "one step forward: wnba. two steps back"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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BigReg
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4. "I can't get over how much this series has fallen"
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Like all 2k did back in the day was take what NBA live was doing and refine the shit out of it for Dreamcast and eventually the other consoles; the competition was good.

But for the past ten years tho? What the fuck happened. Talk about a series that lost it's way, not to say making a multimillion dollar game is difficult but overall the gameplay hasn't changed THAT much in the decades since we entered into the 3D era for this train to be this fucked up

  

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Nodima
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5. "The problem was they gutted the whole thing"
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If I recall correctly, between Elite and Live 15, the team basically trashed all their old code and tried to rewrite a basketball sim from the ground up in a single year and change and it turned everything into a huge dumpster fire. For all the complaints about major sports sims not having changed all that much over the past decade of HD 3D gaming, there's definitely a reason for that and NBA Live is the prime example.


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Rjcc
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6. "I disagree with everything you just said."
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when 2K came out, Live was nothing like 2K.

Live's problem now is that it doesn't know what to do better than 2K and doesn't have time to build it.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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7. "i feel like Live should be more of an arcade experience"
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$40 game with a simpler control scheme

obviously $40 is blasphemy

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9. "They need to pull an NFL 2K5 and come out the gate at $20"
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14. "This."
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Sun Aug-13-17 08:36 PM by LeroyBumpkin

  

          

That $20 game was a genius move.
How could you NOT try it at that price?

The key was NFL 2K5 was (arguably) better than Madden when it came out.
If EA were to do a price drop like this with Live, the game HAS to be playable.
Anything less than that and you've destroyed your series*.

*Granted, we've said "Live is done" for almost 10 years now.

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11. "someone already made that, NBA Playgrounds."
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unless you want 5 on 5, but I don't think people want that.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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bearfield
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8. "i don't understand how they don't have time"
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>Live's problem now is that it doesn't know what to do better
>than 2K and doesn't have time to build it.

i mean i kind of understand (likely shareholders/corporate influence saying, "MAKE THE GAME NOW") but it seems like they could have (did?) taken 3-4 years off to build a new game from the ground up and washed 2k while 2k is getting lazy and stagnant. or gone in a different direction as hardware suggests

maybe there's just a huge talent gap there or ea isn't ponying up the resources. or both. whatever the issue is the result is a shitty situation for customers

  

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Rjcc
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10. "when they've taken time off, they're scrapped and started again"
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which put them behind the eight ball on time again


so...


but the bigger problem is that they have no idea how to be better than 2K. there may not be an answer tbh

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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13. "I'm sure the Mike Wang era was bad for morale"
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that was the beginning of the end, he came in and pushed the analytics-based stats and changing the control scheme and some people were really on the Live is back train, but then he left EA like a week after release date and went back to 2K and the Live team never really recovered from that it seemed like, sorta like they got to live with the cool dad on the block for a year but then he went back to his biological kids


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15. "I have no experience with either franchise, but the last line is funny"
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>Live team never really recovered from that it seemed like,
>sorta like they got to live with the cool dad on the block for
>a year but then he went back to his biological kids

  

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12. "Very stiff and slow."
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I was holding town turbo on a fast break, and it felt like dude was running in a pool with weights and a parachute.

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go mack
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16. "playing the demo"
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its not bad, seems improved over NBA Live 16 anyways, hasn't froze on me yet when I have to take free throws. They have it for 35 the month of August so considering buying, haven't played 2K18 to compare tho..

  

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18. "man...i couldn't play more than 5 mins of that demo"
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it looked....ok.

but the player movement is just atrocious. it still feels like a hockey game...absolutely no feeling of weight or momentum.

i do get super frustrated with the moments in 2K where it feels like you've lost control of your player, waiting for an animation to finish or recovering from a delayed action, but they're light years ahead of Live in the basic feel of the gameplay.

  

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17. "Bring back NBA Street"
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