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LeroyBumpkin
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"PS4.5 / XBOX One+: Upgraded systems coming? (swipe)"


  

          

Sony is reportedly developing a 'PlayStation 4.5' for 4K gaming
http://www.engadget.com/2016/03/18/sony-is-reportedly-developing-a-playstation-4-5-for-4k-gaming/

No Path Forward For An 'Upgraded' PS4 And Xbox One Makes Much Sense
http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2016/03/19/no-path-forward-for-an-upgraded-ps4-and-xbox-one-makes-much-sense/#4699f78f21b6

"This becomes a serious problem if suddenly Sony and Microsoft are developing games that are “better” on these new systems, either visually or otherwise, as early adopters (ie. the 60+ million people who bought a console in the first three years since launch) will be left thinking they have an inferior product. And that’s exactly what they’ll have.

I’ve heard this console-replacement idea described as the “iPhone model,” which has worked wonders for Apple AAPL +0.11%, but would be a very, very hard sell in the console space, given that consumers have been used to 5-8 year console generations since pretty much the dawn of time. Asking consumers to buy an entirely new box every 2-3 years is going to be a bridge too far for many, and it will upset those who bought the millions who bought a new-gen system thinking they were set for this generation. This is not just a slimmer, quieter console, as we often see released mid-generation. This is something that will directly affect the games it plays, which is something else altogether."

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Subject Author Message Date ID
Nintendo has been doing it with handhelds for years.
Mar 19th 2016
1
I'm not sure how it won't fracture the install base.
Mar 20th 2016
6
If there aren't any games exclusive to the refresh
Mar 20th 2016
7
My guess
Mar 21st 2016
8
man i was just about to pull the trigger for the Division
Mar 19th 2016
2
Several issues with this...
Mar 20th 2016
3
yeah VR is another reason i'm waiting
Mar 20th 2016
4
PSVR comes packed in with an external processor
Mar 20th 2016
5
Yeah, I dunno. 4K seems like a reach.
Mar 22nd 2016
9

IkeMoses
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1. "Nintendo has been doing it with handhelds for years."
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This is definitely uncharted territory for home consoles, but consoles are like the only consumer electronics that don't upgrade like this.

If the current versions continue to be supported, I think this is fine. If the updated systems just offer 4k and better frame rates for the same games, I have no problem with that and would likely cop. The consoles are a little under powered to last as long as previous gens did, so a refresh could help stretch this cycle out.

If it does end up fracturing the install bases, I do have a problem with that, but I'll still prolly end up coppin anyway.

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6. "I'm not sure how it won't fracture the install base."
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The only way I think they could do PS4.5/Xbox1.5, in addition to a new SKU, is if you already have a console there's a program that allows you to send it in to get the upgrade.

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IkeMoses
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7. "If there aren't any games exclusive to the refresh"
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it won't punish current system owners for having the older console.

But there probably would be exclusive games (as is the case with almost every other update like this), so it would be a little shady.

I still hope they do it, tho.

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8. "My guess "
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is that they are banking on people with 4K TVs having the disposable income to cop the new systems.

Welcome to income disparity people. They are establishing a baller class. I'm fine with the current gen and don't have a need to upgrade to 4K.

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2. "man i was just about to pull the trigger for the Division"
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think i'll keep playing Fifa 16 on my 360 and wait until 2017 sometime, lol.

  

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Kira
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3. "Several issues with this..."
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It fragments developers as makes their job harder. It's not easy to just develop for different console iterations.

Consoles aren't smartphones and the audience is not used to repurchasing hardware so soon. Sega tried this and failed.

Are they counting VR as another console? That's the only way this makes sense. PSVR comes out this year so technically this would match the rumor to the extent that new hardware comes out this fall.

Put this tech in the PS5/Xbox Two in 2020.

  

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4. "yeah VR is another reason i'm waiting"
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I don't want VR tacked on like Xbox did with the kinect. I want it baked in and spec-ed out so i can hit the ground running.

if that means i gotta wait a year or two and pay $500-$1000 i'm ok with that. as long as the experience justifies the price tag.

right now i'm only playing fifa, games aren't really speaking to me like they used to. i need something to bring me back in and i think VR will do it.

  

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5. "PSVR comes packed in with an external processor"
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It'll handle the 3D sound and second screen broadcast. It doesn't add anything to the system itself though.


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9. "Yeah, I dunno. 4K seems like a reach. "
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4K gaming on PC is already a very expensive thing. I can't see a mid-cycle spec bump putting the PS4 in that territory. Seems like more of a thing to hope for with a PS5 a few years down the road.

I'd happily be wrong about this tho. My TV is almost 10 and my next set will be 4K for sure.

  

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