https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAa9bxTW8no

Release Date: February 20, 2015

Will you purchase this?

i bet i can watch a stream of it and get the same experience as playing it

I'm good.

I didn't finish it...

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shouldve been some episodic shit.

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I do want to play this. I'll cop when the price drops.

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something like this to work. I was fucking amazed the first time I saw how seamless it moves from cutscene to gameplay and I think they could do something real clever with that. I'm just curious how long the game is, luckily I hit a financial hurdle recently so I can't impulsively buy it.


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Like a early youtube playthrough that has the entire game.

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I watched the GiantBomb quick look and it confirmed all my worst fears. I had a good feeling they wouldn't like it but I also had a good feeling whatever they showed would appeal to me. That was not the case.

http://www.giantbomb.com/videos/quick-look-the-order-1886/2300-9956/

especially the sniper part. my god how dull and gamey. my whole hype on this was that they'd be too obsessed with being cinematic to include stuff like the sniper scope just popping up onto the screen to initiate action, or the Man in Your Ear telling you to keep looking to signify there's more 'game' to be played. perhaps absurdly I wanted them to use their gimmick as an excuse to do as little "video game stuff" as possible, but they couldn't figure it out.

it doesn't even look that pretty, I didn't expect it to be so...grey.

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it seems to split the difference between a game and a movie, somehow minimizing, ignoring, or obfuscating the best parts of both mediums

is the final product the desired result of the design document? it can't be. i find it hard to believe that the creative team driving the development of this game could think that a short, passive, and derivative experience would somehow be a success, much less the system-selling exclusive it was touted to be

this whole fiasco feels like one of those things that has to happen every few years to remind the rest of the AAA devs that gamers generally want video games with depth and game-specific experiences, not endless cutscenes linked by short, uninteresting action sequences

it seems to be a very short, linear game with standard 3rd person shooting range game play and QTEs.

but i also gather that it's beautiful and the story is kinda dope.

it doesn't look like it's worth the full $60 for most people, but i don't mind finishing this in a couple sittings and being done with it. i got a higher tolerance for these types of games than most people, though (i actually played through Heavy Rain and Heavy Rain with Juno, for example).

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>it doesn't look like it's worth the full $60 for most people,
>but i don't mind finishing this in a couple sittings and being
>done with it. i got a higher tolerance for these types of
>games than most people, though (i actually played through
>Heavy Rain and Heavy Rain with Juno, for example).

what do you like about games like these? do you get into the storytelling? the characters? the setting? how do you feel about games of that ilk being a more passive experience than other games?

people who play them know they're trash.

people who don't play them know they're trash.

but they're really interesting.

they're trying to push the medium into new places and failing, but they're trying. as somebody who is enthusiastic about what games are and what they can be as storytellers, i love playing games like that.

the Heavy Rains are actually more mechanically interesting than narratively (the stories are very terrible...beautifully presented, but terrible) and I'd love to see those ideas get incorporated into more games as opposed to the simple God of War-style QTEs we get.

The Order reminds me of Spec Ops: The Line. A very, very standard 3rd person shooter gameplay-wise wrapped in a cinematic experience. I don't mind playing a Gears clone with a fun story. Sure, I'd prefer a game to blow my mind with gameplay and presentation, but most games make you choose between one or the other.

The Order seems to be a standard shooter, the best looking (console) game to date, and it has a funky steampunk comicbook plot. That's a good time to me.

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I have a deep, deep love for the PC Blade Runner game. It's one of the few PC games I've ever played. In the run-up to Heavy Rain's release I really thought I was getting a modern version of that game; seemingly endless branching, a weird mystery that keeps getting weirder, multiple across several characters and a multi-generation leap in technology.

but the story was just SO bad, I was hate-playing that game less then two hours into it.

L.A. Noire was a bit of a let down in this regard as well, that game was way too rigid for what it was trying to present and the open worldness was pretty pointless. It was still much more fun than the Cage games thanks to the face technology and competent voice acting though.

I'm with you that I want someone to nail this type of game but for some reason it just seems so hard for people to do.

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I wanted to know what the hell happened and couldn't put it down till the end.

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It was a game you couldn't "fail," in that nothing you did stopped your progress or had much consequence on the story.

But you, the player, knew when you were being a shitty detective. And it was very hard not to be a shitty detective.

I actually suspect Telltale took a lot of notes on what LA Noire did in crafting their own games. Walking Dead came out a year after LA Noire and it nailed the balance of making choices meaningful without being consequential in a way LA Noire didn't exactly, but you can see the heritage there.

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I've had it downloaded on XOne for months and haven't played it yet.

I can't exactly recommend season two unless you just love that type of game, but I think everyone who games can love season one.

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just need to boot em up one of these days

You'll finish it in one sitting.

You'll make time for the rest.

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>people who play them know they're trash.
>
>people who don't play them know they're trash.
>
>but they're really interesting.
>
>they're trying to push the medium into new places and failing,
>but they're trying. as somebody who is enthusiastic about what
>games are and what they can be as storytellers, i love playing
>games like that.

that stuff is super interesting in theory but i think it's impossible to pull off without making extreme compromises in both gameplay and storytelling

player agency and storytelling are almost diametrically opposed. it's hard to construct a story around an actor that is constantly doing things independent of the writer's wishes. limiting the player's choice of actions in order to get them to experience the story goes against the principle of playing a video game. in both cases, both the game creator and the game player lose out on the storytelling and game playing experiences

i don't think a happy middle ground can be reached

the real 'storytelling' in games is found in ludic/emergent gameplay, i.e. minecraft, far cry, skyrim, dwarf fortress, etc. those moments that happen as a result of the mechanics and systems interacting with each other, not what the writer was intending for the player to experience

entirely linear.

but also a game ass game. a legit, old school, puzzle platformer.

but also story driven from beginning to end.

the balance is not impossible, but it is more difficult to maintain as you introduce more gameplay variety. after all, the player is only free in Limbo to walk, jump, and push things.

emergent, open games offer a compelling type of story discovery because it FEELS authored by the player, but that's an illusion. the game's design is still limiting the kinds of stories we discover.

avoiding overt narrative and maximizing gameplay variety, like Minecraft, is a choice, but is it THE one true choice? i don't think so. Minecraft is special because it's kind of an outlier in its devotion to that choice.

balancing varied gameplay with branching and procedural narratives, like Skyrim, is another choice.

going linear with designated cutscenes and gameplay arenas, like The Last of Us, yet another.

games can have no story like Pong, or be Gone Home: a simple story maze with no fail state.

i like all them choices.

video games are a dope medium because that push and pull between mechanics and narrative can express itself in so many ways. i love when it all balances out, but sometimes when it fails to balance out it's hella interesting too.

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The game is gorgeous & I like the story. The length isn't the problem, the pacing is. Also, I don't like how limited your arsenal is. They got some coo weapons but just like the gameplay, variety is suspended by the narrative so if you get a weapon you like, you can't keep it after the next cutscene so you don't really get a chance to not only have favorite weapon but enough time to use it. Also, you can't even pull out your gun outside of a battle zone so it's like, you know you're safe at times & kills the suspense b/c there is no danger b/c you gun inventory ain't pop up. If they added some freedom to this gorgeous world they put you in, let you have an actual weapon inventory you can use throughout the game & personally, co-op, this could've easily been highly rated.

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something tells me they'll put out a game worth playing the second time around.

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I hit this point where I'm not even opening up games anymore, they just sit in the damn wrapper. I think the 1-2 of halo MCC and halo 5 beta sucking so bad really turned me off for a while. And destiny faded after it had its hooks in me pretty deep. I broke away and haven't really been back.

The game is fucking dope. There just needs to be more game.

It's immersive. It feels great.

It just needs more variety. A greater variety of enemy encounters. A bit more player choice in combat. More opportunities to use them Tesla weapons. More monsters.

Just more. Everything there is dope, just give us more.

It's very Uncharted 1 right now.

Beating it just now I can't wait until the sequel, tho. 1887 will be so ill with just a few tweaks.

If you didn't cop this shit yet, don't sleep when it drops to like $30 or hits PS+. It's worthy playing through, even if I can't recommend it at the full $60.

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>The game is fucking dope. There just needs to be more game.
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>It's immersive. It feels great.
>
>It just needs more variety. A greater variety of enemy
>encounters. A bit more player choice in combat. More
>opportunities to use them Tesla weapons. More monsters.
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>Just more. Everything there is dope, just give us more.
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>It's very Uncharted 1 right now.
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>Beating it just now I can't wait until the sequel, tho. 1887
>will be so ill with just a few tweaks.
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>If you didn't cop this shit yet, don't sleep when it drops to
>like $30 or hits PS+. It's worthy playing through, even if I
>can't recommend it at the full $60.

I'm def coppin once that price drops

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Seriously, like the only person.

From what I've seen and read from reviewers it didn't need to be any longer than it was already because it was a chore to get through in the first place.

The people that did bite the bullet anyway and got it hated it and traded it back.

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i actually agree with most criticisms of the game.

the lack of variety and the slow pace, especially.

they weren't a big deal for me because i didn't marathon through the game, though.

i took my time and stretched it out over a week, playing like a chapter or two at a time. it was dope.

the flaws are legit, so i hesitate to recommend this to anybody else at full price, but this ain't a bad game by any stretch. most reviews have called this an average game, and that's fair, but i think it has charms that make it slightly above average. slightly. B-.

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The harsh reviews for this game are a little unfair. There is nothing that is horrible about this game. I think the game got low scores just for not being innovative. The developers told us exactly what the game is and thats exactly what we got. i just think we're all starved for a game that justifies having a next-gen console and we havent gotten it yet. Shadow of Mordor was one of the best reviewed games but its only innovation was the nemesis system. The fighting on that game was just like the Arkham series. At it's core its just a button masher with QTE's as far as the gameplay. But it was fun and thats what we want from games at the end of the day. The Order isnt as fun as that game but it's still a good game. And its fucking beautiful. Maybe that's all we're going to get from this generation is really good looking games that run smooth as hell without much innovation in gameplay. We may be at the point where the next real advancement in gaming is when virtual reality games take over. With all that said...im really digging the game so far. It looks great. The shooting mechanics are good. Thermite gun is beast though you don't get to use it much. I never really care much for stories in games so im not completely intrigued by the story but i like the concept. pacing wasnt too bad for me. Some cutscenes are a little long and frequent but it didn't make me dislike the game.

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I do think we'll see more innovation later in the console cycle, though.

It usually takes developers a couple years to get in their groove and surprise us with something.

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Seems alright so far and very pretty to look at.



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i was waiting on that price drop.

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