You ever get tbe NES version of an arcade game (like Contra), love it, adapt to 8bit version, then maybe a fw months later see the arcade version and be like "Damn this shit looks way better than the Nintendo version". That would happen to me. Most NES versions (except the first Double Dragon) were good and playable. But did any of you all feel that way too.

and then get the NES version and be like WTF happened? It was like that with Gauntlet, Double Dragon, Ninja Gaiden, etc but that NES Ninja Gaiden was dope in it's own right. But it was nothing like the arcade version. Same thing with Punch out. That arcade was drastically different but had that cool announcer - BODY BLOW BODY BLOW BODY BLOW! is all you'd hear in the arcade lol. Those were the days. I was an arcade junky. That's probably why I was never into role playing type games. I always wanted to play stuff where I was competing directly.

Punch Out and some other games remind me of going to Tahoe and Reno with family cause back in the days they had arcade games for the kids while the parents gambled.

But yeah I meant to say I hand't played said game in a while then got the NES version, then later down the line happen to see the arcade version again.

Gaming. It was the best to feel the pressure building up. It was horribly fun to deal with the mad guy who had just lost...especially when the rematches would come. You see that quarter getting stood up again and knew it was on (if you won). And it was even dope to get owned, know you had to work to get your shit together, and come back for the win some other time. Now, you get cats who devote their lives to games at the house, gamefaqs, youtube snitch videos, fighting game tourneys to give everyone template plans to follow with the highest tier characters, etc. And cats aren't above taking the cheapest way out. And you can't even give them the 'you know you're a bitch for that..witcha bitchass..if you feel good about that, go ahead' look.

And Punch Out at the corner store...shiiiid...my pops had to pull me off of that game when I'd lose a few times and get super flustered. I was a bit too young (5-ish) to be as good as I needed to be. Pizza Pasta and nem would blow me up. I emulated that joint and went all in whooping those dudes' asses years ago. The rhythm wasn't nearly as clean as the NES version though. You could get jobbed like hell on that game.

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>Punch Out and some other games remind me of going to Tahoe
>and Reno with family cause back in the days they had arcade
>games for the kids while the parents gambled.
>
>But yeah I meant to say I hand't played said game in a while
>then got the NES version, then later down the line happen to
>see the arcade version again.

... my step son be confused and goes straight to youtube walk throughs. I be shaking my heads at them. But putting that quarter/coin down to say you got next, I miss that shit!

Kids have no idea these days

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>Kids have no idea these days

for me nowadays is on SF4 when you make another match after barely beating somebody and that cat finds you and comes for the rematch. They hit that 'go into the match' button quick as hell! OR they switch to their 'real' character and you see higher numbers next to their shit going into the match, so you know they are trying to get you back. OR they friend you and immediately go for 'endless battle'. Haha...revenge! That's the good shit right there. You can sit down and sink your teeth into matches like that.

To me, Gouken is such a great mad-making character..pretty much anytime you get got by him, it is your fault in some way...unless it is pussy throw shit, but I still don't play like that unless it is a counter to someone trying to throw me over and over, but hell...I'll do a Gouken overhead throw --> taunt a mofo in a minute as a 'quit being a bitch with all of the throws, loser' demonstration. I can feel the madness all the way to Japan on that shit..haha.

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pre-save-points-everywhere, pre-GameFAQs...just mano y mano. and nobody screamed out racial slurs the entire time either.

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I think there wasn't a single arcade translation that I WASN'T disappointed with.

The single biggest offender was Rygar. The arcade original was my shit. They had it at the corner store near my high school and I played every fuckin day. I got Rygar for the NES and was like "da fuck is this bullshit???!!!". I still played the game and, although it's absolutely nothing like the original, it ended up being a decent game.

Strider, Trojan, Double Dragon... I get mad just thinking about them.

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Didn't stop me from playing the shit outta the NES version though... jumping bo staff ftw

>Didn't stop me from playing the shit outta the NES version
>though... jumping bo staff ftw

I have that game (and part 3) downstairs...did it even allow 2 players? I know there was a gang of graphic reductions and less enemies at the same time. The bosses were mostly watered all the way down.

Finding out about the 'real' Ninja Gaiden AFTER playing the NES version was seriously heart-breaking. I felt so cheated. And lied to.

Not to mention there being no home console wrestling game on earth that was in the stratosphere of WWF Wrestlefest.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uO529MYnous

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I knew about the NES version first. I saw the arcade version at a movie theatre and was like "What the hell?"

I looooved the arcade version, begged my parents for weeks for the NES version and it turned out to be total trash.

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Total ass, and horrible speech synthesis. Still played the shit out of it.

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Double Dragon too.

it's a crazy how future-forward that game was.

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... from Arcade versions to Consoles at the time? I mean I remember playing certain games at the arcade and than playing the console versions and there be drastic variations at times. Never knew the reason for that.

In fact, prior to Sega's Space Harrier and System 16 hardware (Altered Beast, Shinobi), you'd be hard pressed to find a game that WASN'T 8 bit.

A lot of the old Capcom games like Trojan and SideARMS were based around 8bit Z80 processors. The old Williams games were based on 8 bit 6802 processors. Bally Midway games were 8 bit as were Namco games.

the hardware was better

I'll never understand that shit, but I guess there's this leveling system that he enjoys in the NES version. I grew up playing that game in the arcade and I'm like "fuck that" when I look at the NES one.

That earn moves shit totally killed the game for me. Luckily Double Dragon 2 was hella tight.

and by decent I mean TERRIBLE... I played it recently...ugh.

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but double dragon 2 was incredible

As someone else said, the real problem was the reverse,
and if you didn't get that, then you probably didn't grow up
going to arcades (which is a shame)

Some of us are old enough to know that the central beef
in this post was never really a problem, but an accepted reality
of being able to play the game AT HOME on your couch. I can
comfortably say that I never, ever, ever actually complained
about this.

Plus, this gap b/w home and arcade was cool b/c it kept the
arcade market alive

Shout out to 'Nathan's'

20 bucks (which was a fortune) would get you 2 good hot
dogs (pause), fries, a big soda, and a dope couple of hours
of gaming

This was back when actual cool niggas would go to the
arcade....video games was an actual social experience,
you would have to SHOWER and throw some gear on to
go...and half the experience was walking around, seeing
who the livest niggas was at certain games, crowds around
dudes going in

Oh and YES niggas would bring their girls to the arcade,
don't get it twisted...girls would like the racing games,
niggas would let them win so that we might be able to
fondle some boobs or whatever we were doing at that age


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...so the order referenced in the OP was strange ...bit it was a rare thing that the NES game was better (Ninja Gaiden, Bionic Commando)

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People could smoke and drink in a lot of them. Like back in the day in Boston 25 years or so ago, places like Teddy Bears and Dream Machine were hangouts for the Chinese mafia. Them dudes would sit in there playing obscure ass games that never saw the light of a console having crazy convos while smoking and whatnot like we were in a casino. lol. Girls all dressed up hanging around. Like dude said, it was a real social thing. Was fun.

>This was back when actual cool niggas would go to the
>arcade....video games was an actual social experience,
>you would have to SHOWER and throw some gear on to
>go...and half the experience was walking around, seeing
>who the livest niggas was at certain games, crowds around
>dudes going in

i probably came in on the tail end of the arcade era, like i wasn't playing ms.pac man and all that shit yall probably talking about
but this was still true in the early-mid 90s. quiet as kept, older kids would be straight predatory in certain arcades
you pretty much had to be a live nigga to survive on some sticks
either willing to scrap over .25 or so good with the sticks niggas were willing to WATCH u play for extended periods of time
especially in strange neighborhoods.
some dudes tried to strong arm me off the sticks in cheltenham mall but my dad was there to save me lol
local arcades weren't really like that cause everybody know u already. but mall arcades were strictly for live niggas who held clout or the best players really

and everybody probably got gagged with the "let me help you on this part" line at least once too

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Ninja Gaiden I definitely played the NES first and bugged out when I saw the arcade version. Same with Double Dragon 3. I actually owned DD3 so when I saw the arcade joint I didn't even know what to think. It was sooooo different.

Then there are games like Legend of Kage that I didn't even know was an arcade game until a few years ago. I only played the NES version until recently. Contra too. Back in the days I just didn't see Contra in the arcades like that. When TMNT II dropped I was happy as hell because it was the closest I could get to playing that beautiful arcade game. I wish they made that joint where the four player adapter would work, but I understand graphically and memory wise it just couldn't be done on the NES.

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Kung Fu on the NES had a nice lil color palette but it didn't feel like the arcade, and I LOVE that arcade game.

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it wasn't until the 4 Meg RAM cart for Saturn, and then the Dreamcast before anybody was able to play "arcade-perfect" games at home.

that breakthrough, along with the rise of the internet for 24-hour competitive play, killed the arcade soon thereafter.

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There's only a few times that a game has dropped my jaw (FF VII, Soul Calibur, Uncharted 2, a few others) and SC on the dreamcast is at the top of the list.

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...version were trash.

the one that really pissed me off was "Willow". the arcade version was dope as fuck and the NES version was straight garbage.

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instead of the arcade. because it was free.

in fact, a lot of the stuff I did with the Dreamcast was "because it was free".

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I had Samurai Showdown for my Sega CD and with the exception of the camera zoom and Earthquake missing from the lineup, it was a dead on translation.

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>it wasn't until the 4 Meg RAM cart for Saturn, and then the
>Dreamcast before anybody was able to play "arcade-perfect"
>games at home.

The 3D0 version of Samurai Showdown was, hands down, the most perfect port of the game with only the SegaCD version coming in second. The port of Super Street Fighter II was also absolutely perfect.





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Problem is that stupid 3 button controller at that stage in the game. That was just stupid.

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Some games like the aforementioned Ninja Gaiden, Strider, DD and Punchout changed dramatically but I thought the home console versions were fun.

Of course, there were a lot of disasters but there were a few that
actually surpassed the arcade versions like Bionic Commando.

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.....from atari to dreamcast .. none of them ever got it 100% right, but a simple emulator i could run on a shitty PC in 1999 did it perfectly

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I've never purchased a cartridge of Pac Man outside of Atari because it just doean't match or live up to the arcade classic. I do love those sound effects on the Atari 2600 though. "BANK BA BANK BANK BANK!!!!"

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My aunt had the 5200 version and I had the NES version (and the Atari 8bit computer version, with is pretty much the exact same as the 5200 version). Both were pretty faithful ports of the game. Better than the Intellivision version.

Game Gear and NeoGeo Pocket also had it.

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....from the sprites to the A.I. ...nobody ever got it 100% ..why??? ...even the Namco museum titles didn't get it right

run through an emulator.

If there were certain patterns you remember from your youth and they didn't work, chances are Namco used a different revision of the Pac Man code than what you played on.

I used to have this book when I was a kid:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51H7rwKVVnL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

In it, Ken Uston talked about the different revisions of Pacman, stating that you needed little tweaks for his patterns for the different revisions.

IIRC, Namco released a few more revisions even after that book was published.
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.....thats a good 10 years into the museum series

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just like the Williams Arcade's Greatest Hits release for PSX and Windoes95. They made a big deal out of how powerful computers and game systems of the day had become and how that led to faithful emulation of the arcade original games.

The version of Namco Museum on the N64 and GBA were probably just ports.

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....that was in 2005 on PS2, Xbox, Gamecube, and Windows PC

are outta your damn minds. Nah. It was cool. But the NES one is a better game.

So whether you love them or hate them, this game was responsible for it

http://www.ign.com/articles/2008/01/28/ign-presents-the-history-of-ninja-gaiden

To me the arcade version was like a more serious version of TMNT.

>To me the arcade version was like a more serious version of
>TMNT.

And it served as the template for the new NG games. The remixed NG3 is not bad at all if you ask me. Things are faster, the whole 'regular enemies will kill you and not care' thing is ever-present, and I enjoyed it for the time I spent on it.

I wish Itaki was still in charge tho. I'm hopeful we'll get a true next gen NG game sometime in the next couple years.

I appreciated the arcade original. Two player mode with me and my brother or one of my boys was the shit.

I grew to like the NES version, but I still longed for the arcade original.

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the XBox reboot of the series was a 'our bad, y'all' for the change from arcade to the NES versions. I remember 'finding out' as a kid that the NES couldn't technically reproduce so many of the arcade games.

Of course, this continued during the Super Nintendo/Sega Genesis era. Then, Saturn and PSOne started turning that corner. I remember Street Fighter Alpha.

When Dreamcast hit, just like someone else said in this thread, Soul Caliber II showed everyone that shit was even now. And hell...dialup games of NBA 2k2 ran my life for a good while until I realized that everyone had picked the PS2 over Dreamcast, DC game piracy was outta control and WAY TOO EASY TO COME ABOUT, etc. Then I bought an XBox and experienced maaaad hand cramps until they got a bette controller.

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>I appreciated the arcade original. Two player mode with me
>and my brother or one of my boys was the shit.
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>I grew to like the NES version, but I still longed for the
>arcade original.
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I don't know what it was but Tetris seemed much faster and addictive on the Game Boy. It, like Pac-Man, was boring on the NES.

Even the ones Nintendo made themselves.

Case in point:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYNFWm4sJO8

Arcade cabinet specs were otherworldly back then compared to home consoles. TMNT II was probably the biggest disappointment, even though we understood the problem.

The arcade had the annoying ass dribble button that borderline makes the game unplayable..especially knowing how ill Give N Go would be many years later without that.

Add in the different COLOR and more varied dunk animations, different player sizes, and keeping your blackness even when you had the ball made the arcade version a different game altogether.

But shiiiid...tell me you didn't play the hell outta NES Double Dribble (even tho it kinda sux). You had to sit through that long ass half-time. There was 4 teams. And the Princess Toadstool Mario 2 air travel is ridiculous looking back. Add in the hotspot shooting along with the lame loser AI and we had a wild mess that wouldn't be touched until Tecmo got in. What? We're not going there? Sacred cow?

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I never played that in the arcade but I loved playing it at home. I can hear the national anthem in my head now.

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