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"Is Apple dead today??"


          

Placehodler for discussion of the earnings call on 1/23/2013.

  

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There's analysis, and then there's hyperbole.
Jan 23rd 2013
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dead how?
Jan 23rd 2013
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I hearded that they are making 600% less screens
Jan 23rd 2013
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#HandleRage
Jan 23rd 2013
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Apple press release: Apple is just about dead
Jan 23rd 2013
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Apple stock hit its 11 month low (c) Wally Smith
Jan 23rd 2013
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Wow...
Jan 23rd 2013
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      Wow.....................
Jan 23rd 2013
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           *rolls eyes*
Jan 24th 2013
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our financial system is irrevocably broken
Jan 23rd 2013
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it's certainly still possible that the stock was overvalued
Jan 23rd 2013
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^^^ never taken an econ class ^^^
Jan 24th 2013
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      What gets me is
Jan 24th 2013
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           Well, to do that, they'd have to discredit Apple.
Jan 24th 2013
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           the biggest stock jumps were after earnings reports
Jan 26th 2013
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                RE: the biggest stock jumps were after earnings reports
Jan 26th 2013
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ppl are hopping off the ship. it's been 2+ yrs since the last major
Jan 23rd 2013
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Basically
Jan 24th 2013
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makes sense they sold more phones and pads...
Jan 24th 2013
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I'm sure they'll level out when they release the iPhone 5ZX300
Jan 24th 2013
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Apple is fine, but are being penalized for lack of courage
Jan 24th 2013
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I do not want an oversized phone.
Jan 25th 2013
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      ^^^^^^^ Why the share price dropped
Jan 26th 2013
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           Exactly. People obviously have distinct preferences.
Jan 26th 2013
25
interesting article on low margin vs high margin (swipe)
Jan 26th 2013
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wallysmith
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1. "There's analysis, and then there's hyperbole."
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You seem to constantly confuse the two.

  

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2. "dead how?"
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3. "I hearded that they are making 600% less screens"
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And that they smell like farts.

Quarter 4 earning live blog here at 2PM PDT: http://live.arstechnica.com/apples-2013-q1-earnings-call/

I predict record profits, record sales, and that those will both be bad news and Apple will be tethering on the edge of dead-i-ness, with the fart smell and not as cool as a 6" phone.

  

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4. "#HandleRage"
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handle
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5. "Apple press release: Apple is just about dead"
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Wed Jan-23-13 04:43 PM by handle

          

Bad, bad news. Record number of iPhones sold, record number of iPads, $54 billion in revenue of which $13.1 is profit.

No wonder the stock price plummetted. What a sinking ship.

http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2013/01/23Apple-Reports-Record-Results.html

CUPERTINO, California—January 23, 2013—Apple® today announced financial results for its 13-week fiscal 2013 first quarter ended December 29, 2012. The Company posted record quarterly revenue of $54.5 billion and record quarterly net profit of $13.1 billion, or $13.81 per diluted share. These results compare to revenue of $46.3 billion and net profit of $13.1 billion, or $13.87 per diluted share, in the 14-week year-ago quarter. Gross margin was 38.6 percent compared to 44.7 percent in the year-ago quarter. International sales accounted for 61 percent of the quarter’s revenue.

Average weekly revenue was $4.2 billion in the quarter compared to $3.3 billion in the year-ago quarter.

The Company sold a record 47.8 million iPhones in the quarter, compared to 37 million in the year-ago quarter. Apple also sold a record 22.9 million iPads during the quarter, compared to 15.4 million in the year-ago quarter. The Company sold 4.1 million Macs, compared to 5.2 million in the year-ago quarter. Apple sold 12.7 million iPods in the quarter, compared to 15.4 million in the year-ago quarter.

Apple’s Board of Directors has declared a cash dividend of $2.65 per share of the Company’s common stock. The dividend is payable on February 14, 2013, to shareholders of record as of the close of business on February 11, 2013.

“We’re thrilled with record revenue of over $54 billion and sales of over 75 million iOS devices in a single quarter,” said Tim Cook, Apple’s CEO. “We’re very confident in our product pipeline as we continue to focus on innovation and making the best products in the world.”

“We’re pleased to have generated over $23 billion in cash flow from operations during the quarter,” said Peter Oppenheimer, Apple’s CFO. “We established new all-time quarterly records for iPhone and iPad sales, significantly broadened our ecosystem, and generated Apple’s highest quarterly revenue ever.”

Apple is providing the following guidance for its fiscal 2013 second quarter:

• revenue between $41 billion and $43 billion
• gross margin between 37.5 percent and 38.5 percent
• operating expenses between $3.8 billion and $3.9 billion
• other income/(expense) of $350 million
• tax rate of 26%

Apple will provide live streaming of its Q1 2013 financial results conference call beginning at 2:00 p.m. PST on January 23, 2013 at www.apple.com/quicktime/qtv/earningsq113. This webcast will also be available for replay for approximately two weeks thereafter.

  

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6. "Apple stock hit its 11 month low (c) Wally Smith"
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That's misrepresented fictitious analysis from a hater.

APPLE IS TEH DOOMED BECAUSE MACS FACE SUPPLY CONSTRAINTS.

Hear that? That's the sound of Galaxy Notes flying off shelves.

Where's overanalysis of Samsung's supply chain/stock price?

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7. "Wow... "
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you actually found a way to make *handle* look rational.

Bravo.

  

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8. "Wow..................... "
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Where's overanalysis of Samsung's supply chain/stock price?

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13. "*rolls eyes*"
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I don't know why I'm doing this, as you've never shown even a modicum of reading comprehension when I've replied to you before so I have zero expectation of you doing so now.

Some reasons on why AAPL disappointed:

- Missing on revenue is bigger than missing on EPS for "growth" companies

- Gross margins (pricing power and competitive position) contracted to 38.6%, which is a fairly steep drop from 47.4% in 2Q12

- Last time AAPL dropped 10% after earnings was Oct 2008

- The market has been trending (unusually) in the opposite direction

- Consumer sentiment buzzwords: "lack of innovation", "cannibalism", and "maps" are some of the negative news surrounding the stock. Populist stocks like AAPL are far more susceptible to mood swings from retail investors.

- Apple finally broke out their Chinese numbers and they were very strong, but their presence in emerging markets are still weak. Remember, the U.S. is unique with the phone subsidization model.... most countries sell unlocked phones that can be taken to any carrier. This pricing range is what drove Android to have a 75% global adoption rate in Q3 2012, and is also the impetus for the rumored cheaper iPhone.

- Stock price is a reflection of future expectations, and most of the new information coming out drives the sentiment that expectations should be revised downward


Some reasons on why people shouldn't care:

- Most analysts cut their targets, but there was only one notable downgrade (Jefferies to Hold)

- The top 12 analyst price targets still range from 750 to 900 (most notably Topeka Capital dropping to 888 from 1111); with recommendations on all of those as Buy/Outperform

- Other techs posted disappointing numbers as well: LPL (LG Display), ALTR, MLNX and PLCM are notables

- iPhone numbers strong-ish (some expected 45mm), iPad numbers inline, Mac numbers disappointed but supply was the constraint, not demand

- Apple Inc. was notorious for offering guidance at a floor. This is why they've tended to SMOKE previous earnings. Going forward, they're going to offer more "realistic" guidance... essentially providing both the floor and the ceiling.

- Most institutional investors (the ones trading on your 401k's, Roths, pension funds, etc) aren't blinking an eye at this drop.

- AAPL's meteoric rise had to stop somewhere. The company can (and will) still grow, just not at the insane rate it was at before



Ultimately, like rjcc said, the stock was probably just overvalued, driven in large part by the populist love for the devices. Maintaining that rate of growth was simply unsustainable and the stock is just returning to realistic levels. Unfortunately, there are certain individuals out there that equate "returning to normalcy" with "APPLE IS DYING!!!"

With that said, it's kind of a bummer to see the stock drop. My bonus is directly tied to our performance and while last year was fantastic (in large part due to AAPL), it looks like the concern over the stock price has merit.

  

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9. "our financial system is irrevocably broken"
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it's unsustainable.

a company that made $13 billion profit and has yet to fully break into emerging markets takes a steep nose dive because they didn't meet arbitrary expectations.

and financial analysts report this shit with a straight face. as if it makes a single ounce of fucking sense.

  

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11. "it's certainly still possible that the stock was overvalued"
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the point is that unless you're a speculative investor, what the stock price is doing is meaningless to you


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14. "^^^ never taken an econ class ^^^ "
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18. "What gets me is"
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They don't complain about the company's value enjoying a steep increase based on arbitrary expectations that are yet to be met.

Just IMO though.

  

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19. "Well, to do that, they'd have to discredit Apple."
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And we can't have that now, can we?

  

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22. "the biggest stock jumps were after earnings reports"
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where they crush even the most optimistic forecasts. and before major product announcements. all that makes sense.

Apple stock wasn't even close to overvalued as so many have rushed to claim. even after all this time of creative stagnancy, they're still improving sales quarter to quarter.

Apple sales in China grew 67%. iPhone 5 is still the coveted device in Brazil and India. they have about $150 billion cash on hand.

everyone's focused on the "explosion" of competition. too bad the competition's app stores (where the real money is made) are pure garbage. Apple makes about 6x as much app revenue per iOS user compared to Google Play. For every dollar an Apple developer makes, an Android developer makes $0.24.

and they haven't even started a major push into emerging markets.

what part of that picture is a struggling company?

  

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24. "RE: the biggest stock jumps were after earnings reports"
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>where they crush even the most optimistic forecasts. and
>before major product announcements. all that makes sense.
>

Yes, so it gets valued on the basis that it's going to continue to crush even the most optimistic forecasts (in making this point you've just crushed your argument that the sales forecasts are arbitrary if Apple has a history of crushing them - again an argument that you'll use one way and not the other) and have decent product announcements. It's failed to do that for people who buy shares for their ability to continue growing in value, so they pull out before the share price drops too much, wiping out their profits.

>Apple stock wasn't even close to overvalued as so many have
>rushed to claim. even after all this time of creative
>stagnancy, they're still improving sales quarter to quarter.

How much would you be prepared to pay for a share?

It's already been made clear that people look for future potential, and have made a judgement call that selling high and seeing what Apple does next is a prudent move.

If I buy a share because I expect Apple to reach certain "arbitrary" targets and it doesn't, it is axiomatically not as valuable as I thought.

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>Apple sales in China grew 67%. iPhone 5 is still the coveted
>device in Brazil and India. they have about $150 billion cash
>on hand.
>
>everyone's focused on the "explosion" of competition. too bad
>the competition's app stores (where the real money is made)
>are pure garbage. Apple makes about 6x as much app revenue
>per iOS user compared to Google Play. For every dollar an
>Apple developer makes, an Android developer makes $0.24.
>
>and they haven't even started a major push into emerging
>markets.
>
>what part of that picture is a struggling company?

What part of the share price says to you that the market is saying the company is struggling? This is where Apple supporters start to look really irrational.

It's a valuable company. It's doing well. But given what is happening out there, and the desire for people to stay ahead of a curve (you might want to stay attach to a share dropping in price rather than selling high and buying again at the bottom of the drop some people would rather make more money if they can help it) some people are deciding to sell and see.

It's not a terrible thing. If Apple starts to hit expectations and do a better job with it's product announcements people will come back, and plenty are still holding on to their shares. It's still the most valuable company in the world, or if that's changed since I last looked, pretty close to the top. Claiming that people not valuing the company at astronomical highs is evidence of a broken financial system just does not make sense.

Just IMO though.

  

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10. "ppl are hopping off the ship. it's been 2+ yrs since the last major"
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innovative product
record sales but they're still losing market share in those segments
all this shit is speculation based around potential growth and analysts don't see anything exciting in the pipeline
it is what it is

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12. "Basically"
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>innovative product
>record sales but they're still losing market share in those
>segments
>all this shit is speculation based around potential growth and
>analysts don't see anything exciting in the pipeline
>it is what it is

I've spoken to some avid all Apple people, who are still loyal but feel like Apple is indeed resting on its laurels a bit. The price went high because speculators thought that Apple were going to do more than it has. When reality hit home, people took their profits. It's not ridiculous, it's not some huge indictment of the financial system. In some cases, it's simply shrewd fund management.

As you say, it is what it is.

Just IMO though.

  

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15. "makes sense they sold more phones and pads..."
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They actually came out with a new phone and the ipad mini...


So yeah they sell more products at a smaller rate per consumer.


They could be dying and just mask it well

They haven't had any new tech that can wow folk from alternatives...



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16. "I'm sure they'll level out when they release the iPhone 5ZX300"
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or whatever spinoff. They'll be fine with such loyal customers.


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17. "Apple is fine, but are being penalized for lack of courage"
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Clearly people like the 5"-7" window, which is the
real reason for these "problems"

People don't mind the super-sized phones
especially when they are WELL engineered devices
like the note 2. Apple needs to be thinking
about a super phone (5")

People like also like 7" tablets

The iPad mini is doing very well, but Apple could have
CLOSED SHOP and SHUT IT DOWN had they dropped a 7"
last year

Samsung and google are being rewarded for their courage

Apple is being penalized for lack of it

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20. "I do not want an oversized phone. "
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21. "^^^^^^^ Why the share price dropped"
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Personal desire confused with prevailing needs for functionality.

Just IMO though.

  

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25. "Exactly. People obviously have distinct preferences. "
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Apple stopped searching that preference space

There's a reason people are openly passing up
the iPhone for the Galaxy Note 2

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23. "interesting article on low margin vs high margin (swipe)"
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not necessary a dig at Apple but just highlights the risk of "resting on your laurels" (sitting on xxx Billion in cash)
apple is so popular partly BECAUSE of their high margin luxury devices
but at what point will the business model become dangerous as it allows cheaper competitors to gobble up market share
so far under Cooks leadership the firm hasn't been particularly innovative so how long will this philosophy hold up with out the necessary *hot* products?


Amazon, Apple, and the beauty of low margins



A lot of folks, especially Apple supporters, like to characterize Amazon as irrational, even crazy, for its willingness to live with low margins. It must be frustrating to compete with a company like that. But to call their strategy irrational or to believe they want to be a non-profit is a dangerous misreading of what they're all about.

It's been years since I worked there, so this is largely speculation on my part, but I believe Amazon is anything but irrational when it comes to how they think about margins. I believe it's a calculated strategy on their part, and anyone competing with them had best understand it.

As with people, I think companies can be more comfortable playing certain styles, much like certain players are more suited for a particular style of offense, like Mike D'Antoni's in the NBA or Chip Kelly's in football. Amazon's low margin strategy is one they are comfortable with because it sprung from the company's very origin. Amazon began in the bookselling business, and some of its earliest and most crucial advantages against incumbents like Barnes and Noble were best expressed with thinner margins.

One of online retail's main advantage was, of course, being able to forego expensive physical storefronts. With one and then two distribution centers total in the early years, Amazon essentially just had two "storefronts" to stock with book SKU's, whereas Barnes and Noble had to guess how to allocate SKU's across hundreds of stores all over the country, all necessitating long leases. A few Amazon editors could recommend books to all Amazon customers, whereas Barnes and Noble had to staff each of their individual stores with sales clerks.

More importantly, Amazon's inventory flow was drastically more efficient than that of Barnes and Noble. Amazon didn't have to carry inventory on really slow-selling SKU's, they could wait until a customer had ordered it and then drop-ship it from the distributor. If Amazon wanted to ship one of those SKU's themselves, customers generally had the patience to wait longer for them since those slow-turning SKU's didn't earn shelf space at the local Barnes and Noble anyway.

Almost all customers paid by credit card, so Amazon would receive payment in a day. But they didn't pay the average distributor or publisher for 90 days for books they purchased. This gave Amazon a magical financial quality called a negative operating cycle. With every book sale, Amazon got cash it could hang on to for up weeks on end (in practice it wasn't actually 89 days of float since Amazon did purchase some high velocity selling books ahead of time). The more Amazon grew, the more cash it banked. Amazon was turning its inventory 30, 40 times a year, whereas companies like Barnes and Noble were sweating to turn their inventory twice a year. Most people just look at a company's margins and judge the quality of the business model based on that, but the cash flow characteristics of the business can make one company a far more valuable company than another with the exact same operating margin. Amazon could have had a margin of zero and still made money.

At Amazon we were ruthlessly focused on squeezing efficiency out of every part of the business, especially the variable ones that affected every purchase. How could we get a book from the shelf into the hands of the customer more cheaply? How could we reduce the number of customer contacts per order for our customer service team? Could we offload some human customer service contact to cheaper online self-service methods while improving customer satisfaction? How could we negotiate steeper discounts on the books themselves? For each book SKU, was it more economical to purchase ahead of sales in bulk for steeper discounts and faster shipping or to purchase only when a customer placed an order and risk a longer delay in shipping? How could we allocate inventory among our distribution centers to increase the likelihood that all items in an order shipped from the same distribution center, minimizing our shipping costs? How could we organize all the Amazon shipments ready for delivery in a way that made lives easier on our shipping partners like the USPS and UPS, and then how could we use that to negotiate cheaper shipping rates? Did we need so many human editors reviewing books, or were customer reviews sufficient?

The type of operational efficiency Amazon rose to in those days is not something another company can duplicate overnight. It came on top of the inherent cost advantages of online commerce over physical commerce. So much of Amazon's competitive advantage in those days came from operational efficiency. You can choose to leverage that strength in two ways. One is you match your competitor on pricing and just earn higher margins. But the other, the way Amazon has always tended to favor, is to lower prices, to thin the oxygen for your competitors.

If you have bigger lungs than your competitor, all things being equal, force them to compete in a contest where oxygen is the crucial limiter. If your opponent can't swim, you make them compete in water. If they dislike the cold, set the contest in the winter, on a tundra. You can romanticize all of this by quoting Sun Tzu, but it's just common sense.

I worked on the launch of the Amazon Video store, Amazon's third product after books and music. At the time of the launch, DVDs had just launched as a product category a short while earlier, so the store carried both VHS tapes and DVDs. The day Amazon launched its video store, the top DVD store on the web at the time, I think it was DVD Empire, lowered its prices across the board, raising its average discount from 30% off to 50% off DVDs.

This forced our hand immediately. Selling DVDs at 50% off would mean selling those titles at a loss. We had planned to match their 30% discount, and now we were being out-priced by the market leader on our first day of operation, and just before the heart of the holiday sales season to boot (it was November, 1998).

We convened a quick emergency huddle, but it didn't take long to come to a decision. We'd match the 50% off. We had to. Our leading opponent had challenged us to a game of who can hold your breath longer. We were confident in our lung capacity. They only sold DVDs whereas we had the security of a giant books and music business buttressing our revenues.

After a few weeks, DVD Empire blinked. They had to. Sometime later, I can't remember how long it was, DVD Empire rebranded, tried expanding to sell adult DVDs, then went out of business. There were other DVD-only retailers online at the time, but none from that period survived. I doubt any online retailer selling only DVDs still exists.

Attacking the market with a low margin strategy has other benefits, though, ones often overlooked or undervalued. For one thing, it strongly deters others from entering your market. Study disruption in most businesses and it almost always comes from the low end. Some competitor grabs a foothold on the bottom rung of the ladder and pulls itself upstream. But if you're already sitting on that lowest rung as the incumbent, it's tough for a disruptor to cling to anything to gain traction.

An incumbent with high margins, especially in technology, is like a deer that wears a bullseye on its flank. Assuming a company doesn't have a monopoly, its high margin structure screams for a competitor to come in and compete on price, if nothing else, and it also hints at potential complacency. If the company is public, how willing will they be to lower their own margins and take a beating on their public valuation?

Because technology, both hardware and software, tends to operate on an annual update cycle, every year you have to worry about a competitor leapfrogging you in that cycle. One mistake and you can see a huge shift in customers to a competitor.

Not having to sweat a constant onslaught of new competitors is really underrated. You can allocate your best employees to explore new lines of business, you can count on a consistent flow of cash from your more mature product or service lines, and you can focus your management team on offense. In contrast, most technology companies live in constant fear that they'll be disrupted with every product or service refresh. The slightest misstep can turn a stock market darling into a company struggling for its very existence.

Amazon's core retail business is, I'd argue, still very secure. I can't think of a tech retail competitor that is a legitimate threat to Amazon in selling most physical goods. Where Amazon is most vulnerable in retail is those areas where the game shifted on them, and that's in the media lines where physical books, CDs, and DVDs are being digitized. Since no physical product must be transported through a distribution system, Amazon's operational efficiency advantages there are less effective against competition. But in the arena of buying something online and having a box delivered to your doorstep, who really scares Amazon?

Another advantage to low margin models is increased customer loyalty. Most of the products Amazon sells are commodity items. It's not like buying one brand of car versus another, where you a variety of subjective judgements affect the consumer's choice. The Avengers Blu-ray disc you buy from Amazon is the same one you'll find at Wal-Mart or Best Buy. In that world, the lowest price tends to win. In the early years, Amazon routinely lowered either product pricing or shipping pricing. Very few companies lower their prices permanently as time goes by except on depreciating goods, like computers whose value decreases as newer, faster models hit the market.

If you're the low-cost leader, customers will forgive a lot of sins. That margin of error, like the competitive moat, buys you peace of mind. I could spend time price-shopping every item on Amazon, but these days, I don't really bother. Amazon's website design is not going to win any design awards, it's a bit of a Frankensteinian assemblage thanks to distributed design decisions, but it's fast, the shipping is cheap or free, the customer service is fantastic, and oh, did I mention, their prices are great! There is value in being the site of first and last resort for customers.

If you want to jump into competition with Amazon, you can't just match Amazon, you have to leapfrog them. But they've left almost no price umbrella for you to sneak under, so you have to both match them in price and then blow them away on the user experience side to even get customers to think about switching. Who has the capital and wherewithal to play that exceedingly unpleasant, unprofitable game? You can only win that game at scale, and Amazon already achieved it.

Smart companies compete first by playing to their strengths, but Amazon also cleaves to a low margin strategy, I believe, because it's demonstrated the advantages noted above. Amazon could try to build a high margin tablet to compete with Apple, but why would they? How have companies that have tried to challenge Apple with design and build quality fared these past few years? Why would you try to challenge Apple in the areas it is strongest at?

In a recent interview, Reed Hastings claimed Amazon was spending $1 billion a year on licensing streaming video for Amazon Instant Video. Hastings is negotiating for much of the same content, I know he knows what that content costs, and since I used to work at Hulu, I can vouch for how easy it would be to burn through a billion dollars building up a substantial streaming video library. I do think Amazon may have overpaid as a consequence of wanting to come in strong and make a big play without as much pricing information as Netflix and Hulu have accumulated over the years, but it strikes me as a classic tactic out of the Amazon low end disruption playbook.


Most companies building profitable ecosystems in the digital world are making their profits elsewhere using the digital media as a loss leader. Apple on its hardware, for example, or TV networks trying to use sports contests to cross-promote their other TV programs.]

Apple took some grief last quarter for seeing some margin depression, but in and of itself, I don't see that as a bad sign. In fact, I was disappointed that Apple didn't price the iPad Mini lower out of the gate. Of course, they're largely sold out through the holidays, so pricing it lower means leaving money on the table in the conventional microeconomic analysis.

But in the long run, if you look at every iPad purchaser as a new subscriber to the Apple ecosystem of hardware and software services, there's value in fighting for every additional user versus Google or Amazon in the low end tablet market. Most customers who buy a low end tablet will stay in that producer's ecosystem for a while, at least a year. Graph the low end market and you see it trending towards zero, to that day when an Amazon or a Google will likely offer you a low end tablet for free, perhaps as part of your Amazon Prime subscription or if you agree to pay for Google Drive.

That's a world in which the switching costs are set by the software ecosystem of each of those companies, not the hardware. It's why Apple lovers are right to fret about iCloud and its underwhelming mail, storage, and calendaring services and substandard reliability, why Amazon might spend a billion dollars licensing videos, why Google tried so hard to switch people over to Google+. They're all looking for a path to software lockin, a more defensible moat.

Apple still is the margin king among those competitors in the mobile phone and tablet spaces in which they compete. But if they decided to start using their low-end priced SKU's in mobile phones and tablets to press down on Google and Amazon, and if their margins declined as a result, I, as a shareholder, wouldn't necessarily find that to be a negative. I would love to find the sales mix data on their different SKU's in the iPhone and iPad verticals, though I have yet to see that data shared publicly anywhere. The shape of that curve will tell us a lot about where those markets are in their lifecycle, but Apple has some control over their shape as well.

Some might say that Apple doesn't have the right mindset to play low-margin offense, that it's against their nature. But they've effectively dominated and wrung every last drop of money from the iPod market using pieces of this strategy, and they have the operational expertise and vertical integration to achieve it. In fact, Apple now turns its inventory more times a year than Amazon, by a healthy margin, a staggering fact.

I haven't mentioned Google much, but like Amazon they will continue to attack Apple at the low end with their strategy of subsidizing businesses with their core ad revenue. For the forseeable future, Apple will have these two giants snatching at their feet. It's a high pressure, high stakes game. Wouldn't it be nice to trade some margin for higher castle walls, just for peace of mind?

Most people don't appreciate them, but low margins have their own particular brand of beauty.

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