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Flash80
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"anyone shorting the Euro (or buying the dollar - UUP)?"
Thu Feb-04-10 08:03 PM by Flash80

          

bad news outta greece today with a possible default of $40 bill.

spain, too.

it's not just companies, it's countries now!

  

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theres nowhere to hide
Feb 05th 2010
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RE: anyone shorting the Euro (or buying the dollar - UUP)?
Feb 07th 2010
2
*waiting for the chris varick alias*
Feb 09th 2010
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France, Germany agree on plan to help Greece (swipe)
Mar 25th 2010
4
still short 'till there's stabilization in the eurozone! n/m
May 02nd 2010
5
Not just greece and spain tho
May 14th 2010
6
the thread was made over two months ago...so yeah. funny thing is...
May 14th 2010
7
shorted EXF at 1.39
Jun 08th 2010
8

Binlahab
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Fri Feb-05-10 04:21 PM

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1. "theres nowhere to hide"
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imo unless youre in a canadian bank fund, theres nothing to do in this long term but judt ride the shit out

im not in any currencies but im getting drubbed on just abt everything right now

*shrug*


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sethdavis
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Sun Feb-07-10 09:24 AM

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2. "RE: anyone shorting the Euro (or buying the dollar - UUP)?"
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Sun Feb-07-10 09:25 AM by sethdavis

          

With the dollar's rally against the euro, I'm skeptical of shorting the euro/dollar at these levels. I expect the euro/dollar to get back to 1.40. I trade FXE whenever looking for an equity play on the euro/dollar, FXA australian dollar/dollar, FXC dollar/canadian dollar. UUP/UDN are the dollar up/down against a basket of other currencies. I don't follow all of the currencies w/in the basket.

  

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Flash80
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Tue Feb-09-10 08:34 PM

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3. "*waiting for the chris varick alias*"
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Tue Feb-09-10 08:34 PM by Flash80

          

>With the dollar's rally against the euro, I'm skeptical of
>shorting the euro/dollar at these levels. I expect the
>euro/dollar to get back to 1.40. I trade FXE whenever looking
>for an equity play on the euro/dollar, FXA australian
>dollar/dollar, FXC dollar/canadian dollar. UUP/UDN are the
>dollar up/down against a basket of other currencies. I don't
>follow all of the currencies w/in the basket.
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yeah it seems like you already had to be in it. the technicals say oversold now.

the word that the EU might bail out greece gapped up the FXE and the market. (dubai, anyone?). probably just a sucker's rally. i still think we're headed down to the 200-day MA on the S&P, currently around the 1020 area. earnings season is about done and there's no fundamental catalysts left until april, sans any blowout jobs report, etc that the street doesn't sell into.

  

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Flash80
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Thu Mar-25-10 03:59 PM

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4. "France, Germany agree on plan to help Greece (swipe)"
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this is interesting, given germany's recent reluctance to bail out the greeks, but they almost have no choice but to since they share the same currency.


UPDATE 1-France, Germany agree on plan to help Greece
1:34pm EDT

* Plan would involve money from EU countries, IMF

* To be discussed by other euro zone states (Adds details, quotes)

By Emmanuel Jarry

BRUSSELS, March 25 (Reuters) - France and Germany agreed on a standby aid plan for heavily indebted Greece on Thursday that would involve money from European Union member states and the International Monetary Fund, the French president's office said.

French officials said President Nicolas Sarkozy and German Chancellor Angela Merkel had explained their agreement to EU President Herman Van Rompuy, and countries that use the euro would discuss it later on Thursday. A French official said the deal, agreed in Brussels shortly before an EU summit, opened the way for bilateral loans to be made available under a system mainly involving the euro zone but also using money from the Washington-based IMF.

"There is agreement on the idea of a European framework. This European framework will be made up of coordinated bilateral loans," a French official said.

"This European framework would be complemented by IMF loans with clear mention of the fact that the financing would mainly be European."

The money would be used only if there were "very serious difficulties and there was no other solution," he said.

A German official said euro zone states would have to agree to activate the plan, giving Berlin a veto.

The borrowing rate would not be subsidised but would take into account the economic state of the country using the loans.

"This is the framework set out to help countries that could be under very strong market stress," the French official said.

Greece has not asked for money to help service its debts but has said it favours a standby package being made available to reassure investors without Athens having to use the money.

Merkel and Sarkozy also said the Greek debt and deficit crisis showed the need to strengthen economic governance in the euro zone -- meaning closer coordination of policy -- to deal with any threats like those in Greece.

An EU official said any agreement would include increased budgetary surveillance of euro zone countries.

"The IMF is a key part of it," the EU official said. "There are two parts. There is a part on bilateral loans and there is a part on ... surveillance."

Paris and Berlin called for Van Rompuy to draw up a report before the end of this year laying out all the options for strengthening preventive mechanisms and sanctions.

  

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Flash80
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5. "still short 'till there's stabilization in the eurozone! n/m"
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Kream
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Fri May-14-10 09:40 AM

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6. "Not just greece and spain tho"
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Portugal, Italy and Ireland soon to follow. Otherwise known as PIIGS isn't it?

  

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Flash80
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7. "the thread was made over two months ago...so yeah. funny thing is..."
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i tried to add to my FXE short today and there aren't any shares left to borrow. basically everyone and their mother is short the Euro right now (and the Russell 2000)

you could buy the EUO, but it's 2x leveraged short. not a big fan of leveraged ETF's.

  

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bigbabyjesus
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8. "shorted EXF at 1.39"
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Not closing my position until it hits dollar parity.

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