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4. "His body language was shitty end of Game 4. "
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I don't like reading too much into that, necessarily... but combine his shooting slump with the defense's inability to do anything with Giannis with the Celtic fans seemingly turning on him with his own future up in the air? Yeah, I mean, I think he has the mental fortitude for the big moments and he has the mental fortitude to be the guy a contending team needs... but he seemed exhausted in all senses of the word second half of Game 4. Seemed like he'd accepted what the rest of the world already knows-- they can't win this series. I'd prefer to see him fight... but he'd be far from the first star player to look resigned to defeat with a series against a better team winding down.

Kyrie's shooting this series hasn't helped, but I think the team's inability to develop a genuine second option this season really hurt their playoff prospects in general. Tatum didn't take the massive leap many people thought he would this year-- he's obviously improving, but he isn't Second Option on a Title Team good. Brown's shooting really plummeted. Hayward obviously needs time, and even then he may not become what he was before the injury. Horford is very solid but is a sturdy role player at this point, not a guy you lean on to carry a big load. So who can the Celtics go to when Kyrie's shots aren't falling? This is insane to even ask... but is their second best player *right today* better than Khris Middleton? Is their third best player *right today* better than Eric Bledsoe?

I also don't love what Stevens did this year. Sped up the pace, fired more 3s per game, looked for more transition buckets. The offensive efficiency improved-- more 3s and more transition buckets will help that-- but I felt at times like this was also hurting their defense, between looking for the run out instead of focusing on cleaning up the defensive glass and taking ill-advised 3s that led to easy bucket opportunities for their opponents. ESPECIALLY in a series against the Bucks, who are absolutely dynamite in transition, this is a really bad combination of things imo.

It'll be interesting to see what Kyrie does from here. He's still my favorite player in the league, and I still think he's absolutely capable of making deep runs. I think Boston would be attractive to free agents and I think Tatum will continue to improve with another year under his belt-- whether that means he stays or acts as an attractive trade piece for a big home run signing. I also think Hayward should at least improve from this year's play. So Boston has way more upside for Kyrie as a leader than most any other team-- unless he joins a team as the second option again, which I don't really see happening. I *pray* he understands that he has way better chances at winning a title in Boston than he would as the #1 option in goddamn New York. So I'm hopeful he'll at least try to stick it out short term in Boston. (Unless he gets a shot at some superteam and more rings, in which case, by all means, chase away-- those opportunities don't come around too often.)

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Kyrie. [View all] , auragin_boi, Wed May-08-19 12:32 PM
 
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the Bucks having the best record in the league gums this up a lil
May 08th 2019
1
Eh...Rockets and Toronto did that too *shrug*
May 08th 2019
6
      I hate this argument in any sport, tbh.
May 08th 2019
14
           If projections lack merit so do vegas odds
May 08th 2019
16
                Vegas series projections =/= preseason projections.
May 08th 2019
19
                     Might be a more reliable predictor...
May 08th 2019
26
he'll right the ship in due time, maybe not in Boston though
May 08th 2019
2
I agree but Kyrie has to shoulder some of this
May 08th 2019
7
“Kendrick Perkins eats sandwiches in caves” (c) a forgotten OKP
May 08th 2019
3
LOL @ that quote
May 08th 2019
8
      One of my favories
May 08th 2019
10
           The facts ARE they were 1 game from the Finals last year without him...
May 08th 2019
13
           AND they were expected to be a contender this yr
May 08th 2019
17
           Pre-season "expectations" don't mean much to me.
May 08th 2019
23
                I get that, but Bron got fried for LA not making the playoffs
May 08th 2019
25
           but the bucks weren't this good
May 08th 2019
22
                Are they better than Bron's Cavs?
May 08th 2019
32
                     how does that matter?
May 08th 2019
34
           It's less about him leading them to a series win and more ...
May 09th 2019
48
For me, it's not just about game 4 tho
May 08th 2019
15
... but if they don't play like it, then it doesn't matter.
May 08th 2019
20
      There's only two differences between this yr and last yr
May 08th 2019
24
           Sigh.
May 08th 2019
30
                RE: Sigh.
May 08th 2019
31
Tatum actually regressed.
May 09th 2019
49
Kyrie not a Batman.
May 08th 2019
5
^^^ all of this
May 08th 2019
9
      I remember a clip of him challenging Kobe during a workout
May 08th 2019
11
           yo....
May 08th 2019
27
RE: Kyrie.
May 08th 2019
12
RE: Kyrie.
May 08th 2019
42
Wait wait wait wait wait.
May 09th 2019
50
      RE: Wait wait wait wait wait.
May 13th 2019
78
His leadership style: take the worst of bron And the worst of Kobe
May 08th 2019
18
^
May 08th 2019
28
LOL. Pretty much.
May 09th 2019
51
They should have traded him at the deadline
May 08th 2019
21
He's not a "Batman" though this series only helps confirm that
May 08th 2019
29
Celtics are trash. Hordford is soft. Tatum is a not a game changer
May 08th 2019
33
Don't really disagree with you.
May 09th 2019
52
In ballhoggy hands so I beg for my next owner to be a distributor
May 08th 2019
35
lmao
May 10th 2019
53
      In case you missed the post the first time around
May 10th 2019
54
Kemba Walker better
May 08th 2019
36
21 shots. 1 assist.
May 08th 2019
37
Kymelo
May 10th 2019
56
Hey guys. How's everyone's night going?
May 08th 2019
38
Shit is grimy, real gunners chuck and don't play right
May 08th 2019
39
Lebron beat that bum ass Boston team by himself
May 08th 2019
40
I mean.....
May 08th 2019
41
I wanna see Kyrie and AD link up in LA with Bron
May 08th 2019
43
Jimmy & AD. Ky can come too
May 09th 2019
46
Yo really had 1 assist last night
May 09th 2019
44
Unscrubby ass gunner
May 09th 2019
47
Ainge should have an interesting summer.
May 09th 2019
45
FRAUD!
May 10th 2019
55
Out of curiosity
May 10th 2019
58
If the Knicks get #1
May 10th 2019
59
      How does that trade work...?
May 10th 2019
61
      RE: How does that trade work...?
May 10th 2019
63
           AD has repeatedly said he's testing the FA market no matter what
May 10th 2019
64
           Always subject to change
May 10th 2019
65
                Aren't you a Bulls fan?
May 10th 2019
69
                LOL...i'm just stating how it works and the possibilities
May 10th 2019
70
                I mean, doesn't he stand to "lose" money if he signs an extension early?
May 10th 2019
73
           Thanks, and as hood alluded to...feels like too much for 1 year of AD
May 10th 2019
66
      Anthony Davis is a beast of a player and all
May 10th 2019
62
fakechise
May 10th 2019
67
Kyrie theme song:
May 10th 2019
57
Not going to front, that's a good pull.
May 10th 2019
60
my favorite Del album...
May 10th 2019
68
      You forgot "Jaw Gymnastics"
May 10th 2019
72
           yep, sure did...good one...
May 10th 2019
75
           weird, just revisited this album a few weeks ago
May 14th 2019
80
                man...the part on Catch all This...
May 14th 2019
81
I guess Ba going on sabbatical again.
May 10th 2019
71
In all fairness, he hasn't posted for a while
May 10th 2019
74
      he saw it coming lol
May 10th 2019
76
           Bastradamus
May 11th 2019
77
                featuring Life Ba Chose, Come Get Ba, and Ba Owe Us
May 13th 2019
79

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