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43. "The Fitz issue was pretty much out of his hands."
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>Okay, but how has Bowles handled that? How did he handle the
>preseason? Probably should have started Geno from the jump.
>They have mad QBs, drafted in good slots, as well as a veteran
>and still mucked it up. If you think that won't reflect not he
>coach, I don't know what to say.

Fitz was a leader in the locker room and just got handed a big deal to play QB this season. Bowles couldn't turn around and start Geno. Nevermind the fact that Geno isn't that great either. That was a disaster on the front office's part.

Where Bowles fucked up was the Rams game. Everyone knew Petty wasn't ready. The locker room wanted Fitz because he gave them the best chance to win. Instead he opted for Petty, they lost, and instead of 4 - 6 and heading into the bye with a win, they were 3 - 7 and riddled with questions about the QB position and feeling like they weren't doing their best to win.

Did Bowles make the best out of a bad situation? No. Did he make it worse? Perhaps. It was a shit situation and a lot of first time head coaches have struggled with similar issues. Belichick made the same miscue with Vinny Testeverde in Cleveland.

>>Revis would fall to earth,
>
>This doesn't reflect on Bowles?

Was he supposed to find a fountain of youth? Older players decline. Maybe he should have seen it coming and given Revis more help from day 1 to prevent an embarrassment like AJ Green's dominance but I don't think Revis's battle with father time is on Bowles.


>Players don't seem to go all out for him like a Lovie, or
>Ryan, other defensive guys who people questioned their HC
>bonafides. What players really seem like they are HIS guys?
>Everyone flat out quit last night, they didn't even quit
>actually, they didn't start trying.

Rex's teams love playing for him and they play a stupid brand of football. It's fun to play for a guy who doesn't think dumb penalties are a reason to get yelled at (as he said this season.) And in his last year in NY and his first year in Buffalo, there were calls that the team had quit on him.

Bowles hasn't put his imprint on the team but it's been two years. How many of HIS guys does he have on this team? Are he and the front office on the same page?

Lovie lasted two years in Tampa Bay. And in Chicago, he had a defense with strong personalities. I'm not sure Bowles has that here.

>I also don't see him developing any talent out there. Sheldon
>and Wilkerson actually seem to be worse, Darron Lee looks
>lost, everyone looks lost except Leonard Williams who is gonna
>beast no matter what

In another post, you said Darron Lee looks good. Mo and Sheldon are worrisome but I'm not sure if that's them or Bowles. Sounds like Sheldon is a goner and he's playing like it. Did getting paid change Mo?

Maybe Bowles doesn't have the right attitude and needed a guy like Arians to fire people up. But I'm also not willing to say the front office isn't to blame. Besides Harris, do they have another leader?

>He hasn't fired Chan Gailey yet. Dude is terrible, for reasons
>I have already outlined in detail.

This is a definite miscue. Just giving Chan Gailey the job was a mistake.


>He is already looking like he has no idea how to handle the QB
>situation, especially under the lights in NYC. Same thing had
>Rex walking out the front door with his shit in a cardboard
>box, and Bowles is gonna end up doing the same unless he makes
>a lot of changes.

It's hard to handle a QB situation when you don't have any answers on the roster. Of course, this has been the story of the Jets forever.

>Now someone tell me…what IS Todd Bowles good at?

You cut Fitz slack for having a career year last year, why doesn't Bowles get slack for having the Jets overachieve last year?

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Todd "Toilet" Bowles is bad [View all] , COOLEHMAGAZINE, Mon Dec-05-16 08:50 PM
 
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RE: Todd "Toilet" Bowles is bad
Dec 05th 2016
1
Wait -- So it's his fault Fitzpatrick is awful?
Dec 05th 2016
2
They've got more problems than QB, but he's an easy scapegoat
Dec 05th 2016
3
RE: They've got more problems than QB, but he's an easy scapegoat
Dec 05th 2016
6
"Less creative??" Are you a fucking imbecile?
Dec 05th 2016
7
      RE: "Less creative??" Are you a fucking imbecile?
Dec 05th 2016
9
           Bwahahahaha! The QB that the FRONT OFFICE PAID is AWFUL.
Dec 05th 2016
11
                RE: Bwahahahaha! The QB that the FRONT OFFICE PAID is AWFUL.
Dec 05th 2016
12
                     Nah, you blaming Fitzpatrick getting paid and being ass on Bowles
Dec 06th 2016
18
                          RE: Nah, you blaming Fitzpatrick getting paid and being ass on Bowles
Dec 06th 2016
19
                          LOL...dude, c'mon...he's talking about all aspects of the team...
Dec 06th 2016
20
                               Dude. He said the Jets had an elite offensive line. He's an idiot.
Dec 06th 2016
28
                               RE: LOL...dude, c'mon...he's talking about all aspects of the team...
Dec 06th 2016
29
                                    Jets have an "elite offensive line" <--- LMAOOO
Dec 06th 2016
41
you're not an escape goat if you have 14 picks anf 57% completion in 11 ...
Dec 06th 2016
23
RE: Wait -- So it's his fault Fitzpatrick is awful?
Dec 05th 2016
4
I'm saying, dude is in year 2
Dec 05th 2016
5
      RE: I'm saying, dude is in year 2
Dec 05th 2016
8
RE: Todd "Toilet" Bowles is bad
Dec 05th 2016
10
you were saying fire him, no?
Dec 05th 2016
14
      RE: you were saying fire him, no?
Dec 05th 2016
15
RE: Todd "Toilet" Bowles is bad
Dec 05th 2016
13
The curse of overachieving.
Dec 06th 2016
16
RE: The curse of overachieving.
Dec 06th 2016
17
      The Jets O-line is one of the worst in the NFL
Dec 06th 2016
22
           RE: The Jets O-line is one of the worst in the NFL
Dec 06th 2016
25
                We'll agree to disagree. I think the Jets are a bad football team.
Dec 06th 2016
33
                     Yeah, we don't agree
Dec 06th 2016
34
                          Swap schedules & QBs and Bills/Jets swap records.
Dec 06th 2016
35
                               RE: Swap schedules & QBs and Bills/Jets swap records.
Dec 06th 2016
36
                                    Jets would deal Enunwa to CLE for Coleman or Pyror in a second
Dec 06th 2016
40
                                         RE: Jets would deal Enunwa to CLE for Coleman or Pyror in a second
Dec 06th 2016
42
                                             
                                                   Appreciate the reasonable responses
Dec 06th 2016
44
Bowles did himself no favors
Dec 06th 2016
21
Umm. Because Fitz is awful and they need to see what they have.
Dec 06th 2016
24
      RE: Umm. Because Fitz is awful and they need to see what they have.
Dec 06th 2016
26
           LOL. That shit don't matter, bro. Front office fucked up.
Dec 06th 2016
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                RE: LOL. That shit don't matter, bro. Front office fucked up.
Dec 06th 2016
30
this agenda sounds so personal, lol
Dec 06th 2016
31
RE: this agenda sounds so personal, lol
Dec 06th 2016
32
He called the black man "toilet." How many yt coaches he did that to?
Dec 06th 2016
37
      RE: He called the black man "toilet." How many yt coaches he did that to...
Dec 06th 2016
38
      basically...
Dec 06th 2016
39
      LOL...yall wildin with that one...
Dec 06th 2016
45
      RE: LOL...yall wildin with that one...
Dec 06th 2016
46
      I've also seen Dr Claw use it
Dec 07th 2016
60
      You sound mad sensitive about a funny nickname.
Dec 07th 2016
61
Wait, What?
Dec 06th 2016
47
RE: Wait, What?
Dec 07th 2016
48
      Good grief. I've had enough of this Sambo show.
Dec 07th 2016
49
           RE: Good grief. I've had enough of this Sambo show.
Dec 07th 2016
50
                Ahh so you got nothing? I thought so, Sambo.
Dec 07th 2016
51
                     RE: Ahh so you got nothing? I thought so, Sambo.
Dec 07th 2016
52
                          Bwahahahahahaa. You baaaack tracking doggie
Dec 07th 2016
53
                               RE: Bwahahahahahaa. You baaaack tracking doggie
Dec 07th 2016
54
"a chance and a nigger chance"-James Harris
Dec 07th 2016
55
with regards to 'do we disrespect white coaches'
Dec 07th 2016
56
Do you seriously need somebody to explain the difference to you?
Dec 07th 2016
57
RE: Do you seriously need somebody to explain the difference to you?
Dec 07th 2016
59
so saying he's bad = he needs to be fired = cooning?
Dec 07th 2016
64
      RE: so saying he's bad = he needs to be fired = cooning?
Dec 07th 2016
65
      The facts are there are a lot people in the media calling for him to be....
Dec 07th 2016
66
           RE: The facts are there are a lot people in the media calling for him to...
Dec 07th 2016
67
                You can criticize somebody without being disrespectful especially...
Dec 07th 2016
70
                     RE: You can criticize somebody without being disrespectful especially...
Dec 07th 2016
71
                          what was the # of the post in which this happened?
Dec 08th 2016
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                               RE: what was the # of the post in which this happened?
Dec 08th 2016
73
RE: with regards to 'do we disrespect white coaches'
Dec 07th 2016
58
lulz. i loooove that 'toilet' line © sam jack as eddie's uncle
Dec 07th 2016
62
RE: lulz. i loooove that 'toilet' line © sam jack as eddie's uncle
Dec 07th 2016
63
      Can you crack the "elite Jets offensive line?"
Dec 07th 2016
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           RE: Can you crack the "elite Jets offensive line?"
Dec 07th 2016
69
                Damn you in here making domestic abuse jokes now? LMAOOOOO
Dec 24th 2016
84
agree or not, I don't see how he survives...
Dec 19th 2016
74
Some bad teams remain competitive. His has not. He should be fired.
Dec 19th 2016
75
gus bradley ultimately got 62 tries and came up with 14 wins.
Dec 19th 2016
76
WHITE
Dec 19th 2016
77
RE: gus bradley ultimately got 62 tries and came up with 14 wins.
Dec 19th 2016
78
      thanks for clearing up that NY's a more demanding market than JAX
Dec 20th 2016
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           RE: thanks for clearing up that NY's a more demanding market than JAX
Dec 20th 2016
80
                no 10-loss team is gonna get competitive defensively with 2 games to go
Dec 20th 2016
81
                     RE: no 10-loss team is gonna get competitive defensively with 2 games to...
Dec 20th 2016
82
RE: Todd "Toilet" Bowles is bad
Dec 24th 2016
83
He's praying that field goal today saved his job
Dec 24th 2016
85
The end of the first half summed up the season for the Jets
Dec 26th 2016
86
RE: The end of the first half summed up the season for the Jets
Dec 26th 2016
87
Feel kinda bad
Aug 12th 2017
88
RE: Feel kinda bad
Sep 17th 2017
89
Crappy situation. The Jets have been hobbled by bad GMing for years
Sep 18th 2017
90
Jets are blatantly tanking. it's wild. LOL
Sep 18th 2017
91
This ugliness happens in the corporate world all the time
Sep 18th 2017
92
      RE: This ugliness happens in the corporate world all the time
Sep 18th 2017
93
I give him a lot of credit so far
Oct 19th 2017
94
sure I agree, but the nickname remains
Oct 19th 2017
95
RE: I give him a lot of credit so far
Dec 29th 2017
98
      I thought he lacked strategy? What happened to that, coon? Apologize.
Dec 31st 2017
99
Jets exceeding expectations
Nov 03rd 2017
96
he’s good enough to get an extension tho (link)
Dec 29th 2017
97
He's basically revered by everyone who isn't racist or a coon.
Dec 31st 2017
100
Yeah, You Can Tell The Guys That Really Hated This
Jan 01st 2018
101
      Nobody on sports radio (or anywhere) understands coaching
Jan 01st 2018
103
RE: he’s good enough to get an extension tho (link)
Jan 01st 2018
102
Light breakfasts are the way to go, guys
Sep 11th 2018
104
no* breakfast
Sep 13th 2018
107
      Two tablespoons of peanut/amond butter, bro. Have you flying.
Sep 13th 2018
108
           You been cutting? Maintaining? Bulking?
Sep 13th 2018
110
                Dope! I wanted to get slightly leaner.
Sep 13th 2018
111
the nyj knew the playcalls story is suspect
Sep 12th 2018
105
more credible: Cheatriot expats do little of note outside the org
Sep 12th 2018
106
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Feb 09th 2021
122
Anything to discredit elite black minds. Bowles is a high IQ savant.
Sep 13th 2018
109
Hot seat
Sep 23rd 2018
112
RE: Todd "Toilet" Bowles is bad
Nov 11th 2018
113
Matt Barkley whoo-rode on a Todd bowles defense
Nov 12th 2018
114
Lost in this, Darnold is bad. Really bad.
Nov 12th 2018
115
Adam Gase was worse
Feb 07th 2021
116
Yes, Gase is a worse HC and coordinator
Feb 07th 2021
117
Fuck, you beat me to it. Dammit. n/m
Feb 07th 2021
118
RE: Adam Gase was worse
Feb 08th 2021
119
Gase. Please. (c) Stugotz
Feb 08th 2021
120
      Gase had a losing record in Miami and they STILL have him the Jets job
Feb 08th 2021
121
           Holy shit, look at his wikipedia photo.
Feb 09th 2021
123
           Not even two weeks after he was fired as well.
Feb 09th 2021
124
                WHITE
Feb 09th 2021
125
RE: Todd "Toilet" Bowles is bad
Jan 16th 2023
126
Lol I knew you were waiting to up this one
Jan 16th 2023
128
yeah.
Jan 17th 2023
129
I believed he would be better but it is looking like he belongs
Jan 16th 2023
127
RE: I believed he would be better but it is looking like he belongs
Jan 17th 2023
131
Tom Boody was worse this season. Straight ass
Jan 17th 2023
130
Leftwich and Bowles will take the fall for Brady's terrible play
Jan 17th 2023
132
probably so
Jan 17th 2023
133
RE: Leftwich and Bowles will take the fall for Brady's terrible play
Jan 17th 2023
134
Wrong. Brady still consumes your entire existence.
Jan 18th 2023
141
To be fair Bruce Arians didn’t leave Bowles with as good a team…
Jan 18th 2023
135
Not being discussed
Jan 18th 2023
136
      He was scared to death in the pocket all season long... n/m
Jan 18th 2023
137
      yeah that was ridiculous...
Jan 18th 2023
138
      lmao, yep...
Jan 18th 2023
139
      I dont believe its not wanting to get hit
Jan 18th 2023
140

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