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Warren Coolidge
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"Rams owner building stadium in Inglewood, CA (swipe)"


  

          

per La Times

I'm pretty sure a current NFL owner wouldn't be working on a deal to build a stadium in another city without having the go ahead to do so from the league office, and enough of the right owners...

Stan Kroenke droppin bombs on em..

oh yeah...proposal is for NO TAX MONEY to be used on the project.


http://www.latimes.com/sports/nfl/la-sp-0105-nfl-la-stadium-20150105-story.html#page=1

Owner of St. Louis Rams plans to build NFL stadium in Inglewood

The owner of the St. Louis Rams plans to build an NFL stadium in Inglewood, which could pave the way for the league's return to Los Angeles..

Rams owner Stan Kroenke, who bought 60 acres adjacent to the Forum a year ago, has joined forces with the owners of the 238-acre Hollywood Park site, Stockbridge Capital Group. They plan to add an 80,000-seat NFL stadium and 6,000-seat performance venue to the already-massive development of retail, office, hotel and residential space, Stockbridge and the Kroenke Group told The Times.

The announcement is the latest in more than a dozen stadium proposals that have come and gone in the meandering, two-decade effort to bring an NFL franchise back to the nation's second-largest media market. But Kroenke's move marks the first time an existing team owner has controlled a local site large enough for a stadium and parking.

What's more, Kroenke, a billionaire who built his fortune in real estate, has the ability to move quickly. The Rams can choose later this month to convert their lease in St. Louis to year-to-year. The Rams declined comment on any plans to move, but it's no secret that the team is unhappy in the Edward Jones Dome, which is outdated by current NFL standards.

Kroenke's Inglewood plans ratchet up pressure on St. Louis to either strike a deal for a new stadium or watch the team return to Southern California, where it played from 1946 to 1994.

Under their current deal, the Rams can end their 30-year lease a decade early because they have not reached an agreement with St. Louis officials on improvements to the stadium. The sides remain about $575 million apart. St. Louis is expected to offer the team a new proposal by month's end.

The San Diego Chargers and Oakland Raiders are similarly unhappy in old stadiums that don't offer updated amenities. NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell said the league would not be accepting relocation applications for the 2015 season. So the earliest any team could move would be 2016. Any team that moves could play in a temporary venue, such as the Coliseum or Rose Bowl, until a new stadium is constructed.

The Inglewood site Kroenke bought last year is too small for a stadium and parking, but the deal with Stockbridge, the neighboring developer, provides ample space.

"We are excited to unveil an expanded plan that will bring a world-class sports and entertainment district to Hollywood Park," Terry Fancher, founder of Stockbridge, said in a statement. "We are committed to working with to build a project that will put Inglewood back on the map as home of the truly great sports and entertainment venues."

The developers said no tax dollars would be used for the construction project, including the stadium. The group plans to begin gathering signatures soon for an initiative that would place the entire project on the Inglewood municipal ballot in 2015.

Inglewood Mayor James T. Butts Jr. said he was "extremely supportive" of the ballot initiative that would add the sports and entertainment complex to the already-approved Hollywood Park development and speed construction. The stadium could be completed by 2018, the developers said.

"This will hasten the time for the citizens of Inglewood to get the project they deserve," Butts said. "This is something they have waited for for a long time."

The owners are calling the combined Kroenke and Hollywood Park projects the City of Champions Revitalization Project. Wilson Meany, a San Francisco firm, is heading development of the site. Wilson Meany is also developing Bay Meadows, a former horse racing track in San Mateo.

The developers want to restore Inglewood to prominence as a sports and entertainment hub. Before Staples Center was built in 1999, Inglewood's Forum was home to the Los Angeles Lakers basketball team and Kings hockey team. The Forum was recently renovated to be a pure music venue.

Since the Raiders and Rams left after the 1994 season, the threat of moving to Los Angeles has been used as leverage by NFL teams looking to get stadium deals done in their current cities. In that sense, the region has been more valuable to the league without a team than with one.

Because stadiums are so expensive, now routinely topping $1 billion — and because there is no appetite in Los Angeles for public funding — the NFL has a great deal of influence on which team or teams ultimately move into the market. The league can issue loans to help pay for a stadium and award Super Bowls, which are used as a financing mechanism. Any relocation must be approved by a three-quarters majority of team owners.


As it stands, Los Angeles has two sites with the legal, political and environmental clearances for NFL venues: the Farmers Field plan downtown and Ed Roski's proposal in City of Industry. The stadium entitlement process, which invariably involves resolving lawsuits filed by people opposed to a given project, typically requires at least a year, thousands of pages of documents, and millions of dollars in legal and consulting fees.

The developers of the proposed downtown Los Angeles stadium, entertainment giant AEG, have a few more months to find a football team under an agreement with the city. AEG has vowed to build a stadium called Farmers Field along with a new wing for the city's convention center. The center's obsolete West Hall would be demolished to make way for Farmers Field.

AEG, an international sports and music entertainment firm founded by Denver billionaire Philip Anschutz, owns the Los Angeles Kings and the L.A. Galaxy soccer team.



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Hollywood Park, through its sheer size, offers a rare opportunity for large-scale development in an urban area, industry observers said. At neary 300 acres, it is about the size of Boston's financial district and twice as big as Vatican City.

The developers aim to create a new neighborhood in Inglewood, with curving streets and parks. The first phase of construction that began in June includes preparation of the site and demolition of the racetrack and grandstands.

Wal-Mart originally owned the 60 acres adjacent to the Forum but sold it to Kroenke after failing to get public approval for a superstore. Madison Square Garden Co., which owns the Forum, had planned to buy the lot in order to acquire more space for parking and possibly additional development, but Kroenke beat them to it.

Kroenke is a former Wal-Mart board member and husband of Ann Walton Kroenke, daughter of Wal-Mart co-founder Bud Walton. Forbes magazine estimates Kroenke's net worth at $5.8 billion — not counting his wife's $5.6 billion — making him the NFL's second-richest owner to Seattle's Paul Allen, the Microsoft co-founder who is worth an estimated $17.1 billion.



  

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Rams owner building stadium in Inglewood, CA (swipe) [View all] , Warren Coolidge, Mon Jan-05-15 04:47 AM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
Looks like the rams will be back in LA
Jan 05th 2015
1
I live 2 miles from the Forum. I'm thinking selfishly now
Jan 05th 2015
2
      How is the new Forum venue?
Jan 05th 2015
6
           I saw the Foo Fighters there a couple of years ago and it was pretty goo...
Jan 05th 2015
11
           The sound there is REALLY good, I just saw Stevie
Jan 05th 2015
12
           The sound there was always good & there was never a bad seat before
Jan 05th 2015
18
                hahaha exactly what I was thinking
Jan 13th 2016
112
           It's fucking great
Jan 05th 2015
16
           I thought it was great.
Jan 05th 2015
22
           Yea I actually haven't been inside since Prince but I hear it's dope ins...
Jan 06th 2015
27
Yeah, now I think the Rams going to LA is really happening
Jan 05th 2015
3
im sorry but fuck that whole place
Jan 05th 2015
10
i don't know any fans in STL who're crying about the team leaving.
Jan 05th 2015
15
Inglewood always up to no good
Jan 05th 2015
4
I was convinced Mayor Jim Dear was gonna pull one of his dirty tricks
Jan 05th 2015
5
the Stub hub center and Dominguez hills facility is up for
Jan 05th 2015
8
St. Louis would be a fool and a half to bend over backwards for this dud...
Jan 05th 2015
7
http://www.fieldofschemes.com/2015/01/05/8310/rams-owner-gets-more-stadi...
Jan 05th 2015
9
Missouri officials will fight for the Rams — but not in a bidding war
Jan 05th 2015
17
Again - I'll believe it when I see it.
Jan 05th 2015
13
none of those projects involved a current nfl owner
Jan 05th 2015
20
      That's the key to me.
Jan 05th 2015
21
bye, Felicia! (c) St. Louis
Jan 05th 2015
14
that Inglewood area was always the most logical, best location for it
Jan 05th 2015
19
Bullet train broke ground today I thoght.
Jan 05th 2015
23
      Haha, did it? Even if so I expect more delays to push it past that date
Jan 05th 2015
24
Is there a precedent for what Kroenke is doing??
Jan 06th 2015
25
I tihnk Bud Adams did something kind of similar
Jan 06th 2015
28
      true...Bud Adams and the Oiler/Titan situation was similar...
Jan 06th 2015
29
           Yeah, he had already announced it
Jan 06th 2015
30
                I'm not sure it's too late for 2015....
Jan 06th 2015
31
                     The league already said no teams are moving for the 2015 season
Jan 06th 2015
32
                          the CVC is uner no obligation to sign a year long lease for
Jan 07th 2015
35
Rams worth 2.5 to 3.5 Billion with move (swipe)
Jan 06th 2015
26
this is really awesome for the small biz owners that stuck around
Jan 07th 2015
33
Yeh, def glad to see that
Jan 07th 2015
34
Bourbon Street Fish and Ms B's M&M's. And the whole Market St
Feb 10th 2015
49
Umm, about that "no public money" thing?
Jan 12th 2015
36
that's not a tax break....
Jan 12th 2015
37
      That's exactly what it is.
Jan 13th 2015
39
           Exactly.......tho Warren, unlike us, is a native Angeleno and a Ram Fan.
Jan 13th 2015
40
           Warren Coolidge is from a city and a state that is not going to be
Jan 13th 2015
42
           lol. come on man....
Jan 13th 2015
41
Jerry Jones- "Kroenke can move if he wants to"
Jan 12th 2015
38
man..Arthur Blank and them raising the bar on these stadiums
Jan 13th 2015
43
Big Rally today at the LA Coliseum...
Jan 18th 2015
44
per NFL.com- "Rams potential move to LA met with applause"
Jan 26th 2015
45
California State Senator Petition to bring NFL to CA
Feb 08th 2015
46
No.
Feb 08th 2015
47
OC Register: Kroenke believes he has votes to relocate (swipe)
Feb 10th 2015
48
Inglewood signatures verified (swipe)
Feb 11th 2015
50
NFL VP Eric Grubman: "I don't see owners saying no" (swipe)
Feb 12th 2015
51
Financial details of Inglewood stadium released(swipe)
Feb 24th 2015
52
Inglewood City Council approves re-zoning 5-0
Feb 25th 2015
53
Stan Kroenke's Inglewood Power Move (swipe)
Feb 25th 2015
54
Stadium developer has donated $100K to Inglewood officials' campaigns
Feb 26th 2015
55
watch how Mayor Butts answered that at the council meeting
Feb 26th 2015
56
      wow great job there
Mar 24th 2015
73
Good interview with Mayor Butts...
Mar 06th 2015
57
New Inglewood stadium pictures released (swipe)
Mar 21st 2015
58
A roof?
Mar 22nd 2015
59
it's a clear roof..... and it has field turf...
Mar 22nd 2015
60
looks good
Mar 22nd 2015
61
I think the material the roof is made out of doesn't
Mar 22nd 2015
62
the material is interesting
Mar 22nd 2015
63
yeah the vikes future stadium is what comes to mind
Mar 23rd 2015
65
      What's wrong with Levi's?
Mar 23rd 2015
66
           no discernable home-field advantage
Mar 23rd 2015
68
Sinking it as far in the ground as they are will help a lot
Mar 24th 2015
70
Am I missing a scoreboard?
Mar 23rd 2015
64
Look at that 8th picture...
Mar 24th 2015
69
See, that's what I was saying...
Mar 24th 2015
71
      Atlanta's main scoreboard is sort of like this
Mar 24th 2015
72
           there is a smaller version of that underneath the scoreboard at Staples
Mar 24th 2015
74
                I can imagine the neck cramps
Mar 24th 2015
76
one reason.....
Mar 24th 2015
75
in photo 9 of the slideshow...
Mar 27th 2015
79
Some architechtural pics of the stadium..
Mar 26th 2015
78
couple things
Apr 14th 2015
81
      also...
Apr 14th 2015
82
30 minute walk from a metro station... for LA i'll take it lol
Mar 23rd 2015
67
Stadium article (more details on the facility)
Mar 26th 2015
77
Teams presenting LA stadium proposal to committee next week
Apr 13th 2015
80
NFL Execs meet with Inglewood... (swipe)
Apr 17th 2015
83
Stan Kroenke presents Inglewood plan to committee
Apr 22nd 2015
84
Stan Kroenke spending big dough in Inglewood already
May 05th 2015
85
looks like st louis plans for new stadium coming to an end (swipe)
May 29th 2015
86
RE: looks like st louis plans for new stadium coming to an end (swipe)
May 29th 2015
87
      he's got the money...but the NFL is not going to
May 29th 2015
88
           Don't the other owners get to split that money? You think they're...
May 30th 2015
89
                he'll pay a fee..but it won't be a big as people are saying
May 30th 2015
90
Hollywood Park grandstands implode in Inglewood
Jun 01st 2015
91
Kroenke will help Chargers and Raiders in their home markets
Jun 10th 2015
92
St Louis NFL market study leaked...
Jul 07th 2015
93
but they suck...should the numbers be better?
Jul 07th 2015
94
      the market study gives some pretty detailed numbers
Jul 07th 2015
95
NFL apparently having trouble finding temporary venues in L.A.(link)
Aug 10th 2015
96
they only need 1 venue...and the Coliseum is open for it
Aug 10th 2015
97
They've already sold naming rights to the St Louis stadium?
Oct 07th 2015
98
San Diego Chargers will file for relocation to Los Angeles in January
Oct 24th 2015
99
not really the first to file...
Oct 25th 2015
100
Eric Grubmann:"St louis will come up short"
Dec 09th 2015
101
Disney CEO Bob Iger on board with Carson project
Dec 09th 2015
102
the NFL is working with Oakland on a stadium (swipe)
Dec 09th 2015
103
      i agree that Inglewood has the advantage right now
Dec 09th 2015
104
Rams, Chargers and RAiders all file to relocate
Jan 04th 2016
105
Rams official relocation application (link)
Jan 05th 2016
106
congrats fam
Jan 12th 2016
107
Yeah, congrats WC
Jan 12th 2016
109
I feel for fans in St Louis
Jan 12th 2016
108
thanks fellas....
Jan 13th 2016
111
Man.... i'm honestly just shocked right now...
Jan 13th 2016
110
Coolidge, u and TT are the first cats I thought of.
Jan 15th 2016
113
      it is messed up for St Louis fans....
Jan 15th 2016
114
New Inglewood stadium renderings
Jan 30th 2016
115
Chargers reach agreement to share stadium in 2017
Jan 30th 2016
116
Spanos and Fabiani are so full of it...
Jan 30th 2016
117
Los Angeles Rams going to the Super Bowl....
Jan 21st 2019
118
A nice update into how things are going (link, it's long AF):
Nov 21st 2019
119
damn lol
Nov 22nd 2019
120
lol
Nov 22nd 2019
121
LOL @ the NFL being morons and not moving the Raiders down to LA
Nov 22nd 2019
122

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