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"These fools hunting Jameis Winston down for this 2012 rape allegation "


          

FSU investigating Jameis Winston
Updated: September 5, 2014, 12:58 AM ET

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/11466541/florida-state-university-follows-title-ix-investigation-qb-jameis-winston



Florida State has begun conducting a required investigation into Jameis Winston in relation to 2012 accusations of rape by a female student despite the state's declining to charge the quarterback in the matter.

An attorney representing Winston's accuser says FSU is following through with its Title IX investigation and that school officials interviewed the woman for the first time in early August. She initially reported the alleged rape to police in December 2012.

It was a development Seminoles coach Jimbo Fisher said wouldn't serve as a distraction for the top-ranked football team.

"No, this team moves on," Fisher said Thursday. "I have no idea how that'll go, what it's about. That's for other people to find out. We're just here playing ball."

John Clune, the woman's attorney, said in interviews with USA Today and ESPN.com that they were surprised by the timing of the investigation but that it was what the school was "required to do all along."

Clune said an Aug. 7 interview between his client and the school "went pretty well."

"I think it was a positive experience, and everyone felt like the university was taking it very seriously," Clune told USA Today.

The school also interviewed two other people, Clune said, but the attorney does not know whether Winston was interviewed.

"I'm confident that they told us it's going to be more than window dressing," Clune said. "That's about the best I can say. Time will tell."

Fisher said he had been kept in the loop and abreast of the situation.

"We're just going to coach ball just like we are," Fisher said when asked whether the team was prepared in the event Winston was found responsible and missed time.

Title IX mandates schools investigate and adjudicate sexual harassment and violence cases separate of any criminal investigation, and says schools should not wait for any criminal investigation to conclude.

The state attorney's office began investigating Winston in November 2013, but no charges were filed because of insufficient evidence.

Willie Meggs, the state attorney for the Second Judicial Circuit, whose office declined to pursue criminal charges against Winston in December, said he wasn't aware of any new evidence in the case.

"My understanding is what they're looking at is much different from what we were looking at," Meggs said. "The standards for criminal charges and student conduct are different animals."

Meggs did say he was surprised FSU officials took so long to investigate the woman's claims.

In a statement, Winston family adviser David Cornwell reasserted that Winston did not sexually assault the accuser.

"The real story here is that after her Colorado attorneys created a media frenzy alleging that Florida State University failed to comply with its Title IX obligations, had to come clean and admit that she previously refused to cooperate with the university's Title IX inquiry," Cornwell said in the statement. "Now that she has finally done her Title IX interview, this is the fourth time has told her story.

"We anticipate the same conclusion that followed her previous three statements to the Tallahassee Police Department, Florida's State Attorney's Office and in the FSU Code of Student Conduct hearing."

FSU's ruling will be based on a "preponderance of evidence" -- a standard set forth in the "Dear Colleague" letter from the Education Department's Office for Civil Rights.

Two of Winston's teammates, Chris Casher and Ronald Darby, faced school code of conduct charges this summer. Only Casher, who told police he recorded the incident on his phone but later deleted it, was found responsible, and he received a year of probation, The Wall Street Journal reported.

Clune said he expects the university to charge Winston with violating the school's conduct policy.

"If somebody doesn't want to give his side of the story, I don't see how that could be the basis for not being charged," Clune said. "It's up to any student if they don't want to cooperate with an investigation, but it shouldn't work to their advantage to not give their side of what happened."

Florida State spokeswoman Browning Brooks declined to comment on the specific investigation, citing federal privacy laws, when contacted by USA Today.

"While we cannot comment on any individual case, in general, complainants control the timing in our process," she said.

Title IX suggests a school's investigation into any report of sexual misconduct should be completed within 60 days, but Florida State did not meet with Winston until January 2014, which was more than a year after the alleged assault.

Baine Kerr, another Title IX attorney representing the woman, told USA Today in April that FSU had suspended its investigation into Winston partly because he refused to cooperate.

Clune said it was "unfortunate" the university's investigation took so long to begin and after the woman already left Florida State, but he is "encouraged that they seem to be taking this seriously, and she'll certainly help with whatever they need."

Winston last season won the Heisman Trophy as a redshirt freshman and led the Seminoles to their first national championship since 1999.

Florida State currently is ranked No. 1 in both polls after starting its season with a 37-31 win against Oklahoma State.

Clune said he feels the football team's success has caused a "power struggle" within the university.

"I think the issue is there are definitely some people at this university that really want to do the right thing and want to comply with the law," Clune said in the interview with USA Today. "But it seems like there's a power struggle between those folks and people that would be just fine to just see this go away.

"We're dealing with one of the most powerful athletic departments in the country with the No. 1 football team in the nation, and I think we'll know very shortly how much control that athletic department has."

Winston did not talk with the Tallahassee Police Department or the state attorney's office during the criminal investigation. He said, through his attorney, that the sex was consensual.
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These fools hunting Jameis Winston down for this 2012 rape allegation [View all] , Case_One, Fri Sep-05-14 08:30 AM
 
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IF he really did rape someone in 2012 should it be okay now?
Sep 05th 2014
1
WHOOOOO what in the flying fuck is this
Sep 05th 2014
6
Guys it's ok b/c she is a nobody
Sep 05th 2014
8
*breaks 4th wall*
Sep 05th 2014
11
Uh, for real?
Sep 05th 2014
34
lol
Sep 05th 2014
40
nice work, all that's missing is the cosign
Sep 05th 2014
45
i wanted to hold tight but ppl thought i was a scumbag
Sep 05th 2014
46
Isa is out of prepaid data
Sep 05th 2014
53
smh i'm missing out on all the inside jokes
Sep 05th 2014
58
Ignoring the allegation as a publicly funded school would be foolish
Sep 05th 2014
2
What does being a publicly funded school has to do with it?
Sep 05th 2014
4
      See Sam's response; Title IX was implemented explicitly for this
Sep 05th 2014
10
           But what does Title IX have to do with public funding.
Sep 05th 2014
17
                It is literally the law
Sep 05th 2014
27
                Here's an article from Campus Safety Magazine that may help
Sep 05th 2014
31
It's the law. Under Title IX, the school HAS to investigate it
Sep 05th 2014
3
Why didn't they investigate during the Spring? Why after the season star...
Sep 05th 2014
5
      B/c They tried to avoid it since he is a football star
Sep 05th 2014
7
      Right? If it's required "why not then?" isn't an answer to "why now?"
Sep 05th 2014
9
      FSU might very well have read the memo from ... President Obama (link)
Sep 05th 2014
12
      RE: B/c They tried to avoid it since he is a football star
Sep 05th 2014
43
      Yea man. Fuckin bullshit people dont understand how much $
Sep 05th 2014
13
           what the fuck is wrong with you? imagine if this was your sister
Sep 05th 2014
14
           Imagine if Jameis was my brother or son
Sep 05th 2014
15
           *Heisman pose*
Sep 05th 2014
18
           cmon
Sep 05th 2014
22
           Can only assume youre joking
Sep 05th 2014
25
           RE: Yea man. Fuckin bullshit people dont understand how much $
Sep 05th 2014
28
           You know Im actually pleasantly surprised people are mad at me
Sep 05th 2014
32
           edit: ohhh, jokes and such, n/m.
Sep 05th 2014
42
shawn, I lost a lot of respect for you in this post.
Sep 05th 2014
16
Jesus Christ
Sep 05th 2014
19
oh, this some A+ troll work then lmao my bad
Sep 05th 2014
20
I thought for a brief second you might be serious
Sep 05th 2014
21
Serves you right for Trolling people.
Sep 05th 2014
23
http://tinyurl.com/n8as4ej
Sep 05th 2014
30
      ^^REAL MEN OF GENIUS^^
Sep 05th 2014
47
      I can't see your face.
Sep 05th 2014
49
      elizabethitsthebigone.gif
Sep 06th 2014
62
i thought someone had your password or some shit
Sep 05th 2014
33
lol. you fooled me
Sep 05th 2014
35
+1
Sep 05th 2014
41
well, i thought i had enough"black" banked for that Jemele Hill shit
Sep 05th 2014
44
      Nah, love is love, but you were wrong for that.
Sep 05th 2014
51
           yeah, but i didn't say it to her, yet i apologized to jackasses
Sep 05th 2014
52
                I'm with you. I did think it was a bad joke, tho. n/m
Sep 05th 2014
54
                     yeah...lol...i woulda taken "bad joke"...but i got the "bad guy" shit
Sep 05th 2014
56
                          I hear that....from what I recall, you were defending yourself tho
Sep 05th 2014
59
cmon
Sep 05th 2014
24
a mistake is made at least once a day. We learn to post through them
Sep 05th 2014
26
You must be one enlightened mother fucker then
Sep 05th 2014
29
ain't no cmon he was dumb as hell lol
Sep 05th 2014
48
keep your pussy closed
Sep 05th 2014
50
There should be a Federal investigation about that Florida investigation...
Sep 05th 2014
36
man the more i read about this shit
Sep 05th 2014
37
LOL myyyy my my Shawnmeslanted tsk tsk tsk
Sep 05th 2014
38
if by hunting down you mean doing the minimum
Sep 05th 2014
39
Do they expect to find more evidence than the police?
Sep 05th 2014
55
A+ trolling....lol
Sep 05th 2014
57
Rape is such a poor trolling topic choice
Sep 06th 2014
61
i'm sure it'll be an extensive, thorough investigation
Sep 05th 2014
60

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