>3 was ok but not as special as the first 2

agreed. i'd forgotten why i didn't like it as much aside the usual sequel critique of diminishing returns, but you reminded me...


>The reason they fall off is because the true meaning of why
>Pinhead (and the cenobites) are even there are drastically
>changed. They're not originally villains. "You called, we
>came" as they only arrive when the box is opened. "Angles to
>some, Demons to others" since Frank opened the box originally
>to find some sexual pleasure and ended up getting the type of
>pleasure he didn't sign up for because he didn't understand
>what the box held. They were just there to answer his request
>even though that wasn't what he intended. The book is awesome
>at showing this also.
>
>Part 3 was just Pinhead trying to take over the world for some
>odd reason and the other sequels were just a cheap cash in on
>a cool looking character.

that's why i stopped there. before i ever started, i knew there were a bunch of sequels that all seemed like, heck, are cheap direct to video fare, which is offputting. still, i'd have to think by this point they could do some cool CGI special effects, no? as well as the engaging story elements you just reminded me of, the visual elements of this franchise are really striking to me. then again, i really love old school makeup and practical effects, so maybe i'll just leave hellraiser there.


>If you're looking to get into more Clive Barker check out his
>Books of Blood series. Great reads.

thank you. i have some barker on my reading list and just haven't gotten to them. i'll make sure to read these; i just saw which of them have been adapted so i already know i like the basics of the stories.