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"Batman V. Superman: Dawn of Justice discussion post (Snyder, 2016)"


          

Thanks Longo!

So I saw it again today, the final cut and I take everything back that I said about it. Seeing the finished version with the score and the sound mix this is an unrelenting film from beginning to end. It's like Snyder saw all the complaints and said "Fuck everyone! I'm putting in even more destruction and mayhem".

Batman's theme is so badly bombastic, that I was hoping they wouldn't play it whenever he popped up on screen. Good news is Ben as Bats/Bruce is incredible.

Jesse is playing Lex like Eddie Redmaye in Jupiter Ascending. Add to that his theme is awful. Lex's plans are so convoluted and hinges on so many things coming together PERFECTLY.

And all the "surprises" are in the title of the fucking movie sadly. They're done so sloppy and that's putting it nicely.

I'll post more in the morning I'm tired. Just know I walked out with a headache as this was on the AMC Prime screen.

This a movie that should not be the foundation of a whole cinematic universe. In fact, this the type of shit you build up to three or four movies in.

I'll be back in the morning.

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Batman V. Superman: Dawn of Justice discussion post (Snyder, 2016) [View all] , bwood, Tue Mar-22-16 07:00 PM
 
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39% on rotten tomatoes.
Mar 22nd 2016
1
Yes but the fans gave it a 79
Mar 24th 2016
34
Down to 30% today... SMH
Mar 25th 2016
67
Redbox
Mar 22nd 2016
2
I'm good as long as Batfleck brings it.
Mar 23rd 2016
3
Take it like this I like Man of Steel (for the most part), and HATE THIS
Mar 23rd 2016
4
I'm going in just to see the action at this point.
Mar 23rd 2016
5
Some more thoughts.
Mar 23rd 2016
6
this is a piece of shit isn't it
Mar 23rd 2016
7
To be fair. Batman is an asshole. And he kills at times.
Mar 23rd 2016
8
      The highs might be enough to carry the film for many
Mar 23rd 2016
9
           This is exactly why I wanted Affleck to run this entire show.
Mar 23rd 2016
10
                Affleck's boy Chris Terrio did a rewrite
Mar 23rd 2016
11
                     I always figured he just plain looks like a guy we should all hate
Mar 23rd 2016
12
Serious question: is this tank the franchise/DC universe level bad?
Mar 23rd 2016
13
Short answer- no (IMHO)
Mar 23rd 2016
14
Nah, it'll help Wonder Woman and Batman
Mar 23rd 2016
15
I wonder if this will make WB rethink Snyder’s stature in all this
Mar 23rd 2016
16
      RE: I wonder if this will make WB rethink Snyder’s stature in all this...
Mar 25th 2016
61
They aren't making another solo Superman movie, anyway.
Mar 23rd 2016
17
Here's how to fix this shit.
Mar 23rd 2016
18
If this movie kills Zack Snyder's reign, then cool. But I worry...
Mar 23rd 2016
19
I’m curious as to why this would lead to Johns exit as well
Mar 23rd 2016
20
      Main reason I say it is because he's an Exec. Producer on the film
Mar 23rd 2016
21
           Anything less than a billion worldwide is a failure.
Mar 23rd 2016
23
RE: Here's how to fix this shit.
Mar 23rd 2016
24
Here's how to fix this: stop making Superman movies
Mar 24th 2016
I think you can make a great Superman movie in today's world.
Mar 24th 2016
29
this. superman is inherently wack.
Mar 24th 2016
30
Captain America proves you can make good movies about hokey characters
Mar 24th 2016
31
      Basically.
Mar 24th 2016
32
      yeah, but cap is basically a meta-human. Supes is a God
Mar 25th 2016
51
dp
Mar 24th 2016
28
that's just your opinion man
Mar 24th 2016
36
      Isnt all of this a matter of opinion?
Mar 24th 2016
42
           of course. i'm just keeping egos in check
Mar 24th 2016
43
           DC fans are the worse. Especially on Twitter.
Mar 24th 2016
44
                awwww...need a tissue?
Mar 24th 2016
45
                     ^^^Point made exactly.
Mar 24th 2016
46
                          i'm a bit immature, yeah. but now please tell me, are reviewers saying
Mar 24th 2016
47
                               All in perspective.
Mar 24th 2016
48
                               nah b. they're full of shit.
Mar 26th 2016
108
                               RE: i'm a bit immature, yeah. but now please tell me, are reviewers sayi...
Mar 25th 2016
53
this is gonna make a billy+ and the fan response is above average to goo...
Mar 27th 2016
122
Final thoughts.
Mar 23rd 2016
22
Can we banish David Goyer yet?
Mar 23rd 2016
25
RE: Can we banish David Goyer yet?
Mar 25th 2016
54
Right!
Mar 28th 2016
138
RE:
Mar 25th 2016
73
Questions for you and everyone in this post to try and answer
Mar 25th 2016
84
      RE: part 1
Mar 26th 2016
88
      RE: part 1
Mar 26th 2016
89
           RE: part 1: Bro, LOL
Mar 26th 2016
99
      RE: part 2 aka i'll accept some Ls
Mar 26th 2016
104
      a couple of months ago you said this was solid.
Mar 26th 2016
110
      The first time I saw it had more stuff fleshed out that got cut
Mar 26th 2016
112
           RE: The first time I saw it had more stuff fleshed out that got cut
Mar 26th 2016
113
                So the former statement is cool, because it's my opinion...
Mar 26th 2016
114
                Take your disrespectful bullshit back to The Lesson.
Mar 27th 2016
121
                lol goddamn you're doing way too much
Mar 27th 2016
131
      RE: Questions for you and everyone in this post to try and answer
Mar 28th 2016
141
      onre more "answer" lol
Mar 28th 2016
142
Knightmare would've been a decent cutscene in Injustice
Mar 26th 2016
96
Looking good fly color asian (c)
Mar 27th 2016
119
Oh and bonus points to any of you who can figure out...
Mar 23rd 2016
26
Since no one figured out who Jimmy Olsen is...
Mar 25th 2016
85
I juzt plain dont care about Jimmy Olsen.
Mar 26th 2016
92
      Outside of Lois, he was someone Supes could confide in.
Mar 26th 2016
94
           Don't care one bit. Not one bit.
Mar 27th 2016
130
Why even have him named Jimmy then?
Mar 26th 2016
97
https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/v/t1.0-9/10294522_1015...
Mar 23rd 2016
27
Look at this dipshit create an awkward environment. *link*
Mar 24th 2016
33
i left the theather VERY satisfied..i had a blast with it actually
Mar 24th 2016
35
Here are a couple of reviews that articulate some things. 1st review
Mar 24th 2016
37
McWeeney was the one in Feb was like WB is worried about BvS...
Mar 24th 2016
38
dude liked jupiter motherfucking ascending
Mar 24th 2016
40
Id argue the opposite. It means he can appreciate a 'bad' film
Mar 25th 2016
59
Jupiter Ascending is 50 times better than this movie.
Mar 25th 2016
74
      fuck no it is not.
Mar 25th 2016
75
      Yes it is.
Mar 25th 2016
76
      it is. you giving a pass to "batman" and "superman"
Mar 26th 2016
90
      LOL when blind brand loyalty goes terribly wrong.
Mar 26th 2016
91
      While that's my opinion...
Mar 26th 2016
93
           "50 times better" than this is the opposite of objectivity.
Mar 27th 2016
129
                Yes. It's my subjective opinion.
Mar 28th 2016
133
      RE: Jupiter Ascending is 50 times better than this movie.
Mar 26th 2016
109
           I don't want to be a movie critic.
Mar 26th 2016
111
I mean...
Mar 24th 2016
41
2nd review
Mar 24th 2016
39
Batfleck was legit.
Mar 24th 2016
49
bwood you doin too much in here my G
Mar 25th 2016
50
I'm doing the Lord's work.
Mar 25th 2016
55
      can't wait for y'all to turn on nolan
Mar 25th 2016
56
      LOL. Not to start that argument
Mar 25th 2016
60
      No, let's start that argument cause I doubt Nolan watched honestly.
Mar 25th 2016
86
      already happened
Mar 26th 2016
107
      RE: I'm doing the Lord's work.
Mar 26th 2016
105
it was pretty bad
Mar 25th 2016
52
Did you see it at the Pac Sci Center IMAX?
Mar 25th 2016
58
      RE: Did you see it at the Pac Sci Center IMAX?
Mar 25th 2016
71
Aside from Wonder Woman this shit was pretty forgettable
Mar 25th 2016
57
Poor Ben...damn, i could feel the pain here
Mar 25th 2016
62
I laughed to keep from crying...that was hilarisad
Mar 25th 2016
63
Ben has the best chance of remaining unscathed by all of this
Mar 25th 2016
64
      Him and Gal Gadot are going to be the only ones to come out of this
Mar 25th 2016
65
           Which brings me back to post #19
Mar 25th 2016
66
                Man, no one gives a fuck about what Geoff Johns thinks in the room
Mar 25th 2016
68
This is hands down the best scene in the movie
Mar 25th 2016
69
It was mediocre. Not a total train wreck, but still only barely workable
Mar 25th 2016
70
shit was just fine. dope. enjoyable
Mar 25th 2016
72
Here is a small list of things that were bad:
Mar 25th 2016
77
yeah, the editing was embarrassing...like i did that shit
Mar 25th 2016
78
I've never felt like such a confused old man before.
Mar 25th 2016
79
      same...i threw my hands up at the dream sequence
Mar 25th 2016
82
           I want someone to attempt to explain Lex Luthor's evil plot.
Mar 25th 2016
83
                :)
Mar 25th 2016
87
eisenberg's luthor was straight carlyle's rumplestiltskin
Mar 25th 2016
80
It's a dead-on Max Landis impression.
Mar 25th 2016
81
Grandma's Peach Tea
Mar 26th 2016
98
That first scene with Holly Hunter and him may have been my favorite.
Mar 26th 2016
101
      I just hated Luthor being reduced to peeing in jars
Mar 26th 2016
102
Spoiler question ..maybe
Mar 27th 2016
126
      RE: Spoiler question ..maybe
Mar 27th 2016
127
It's not so bad if you just lower your expectations
Mar 26th 2016
95
RE: It's not so bad if you just lower your expectations
Mar 26th 2016
106
That red motorcycle helmet looked corny
Mar 26th 2016
117
RE: It's not so bad if you just lower your expectations
Mar 26th 2016
116
And I really wanted to like this
Mar 26th 2016
118
they were pretty low after the reviews
Mar 27th 2016
120
      this is why i think i enjoyed it. i thought it was going to be
Mar 27th 2016
123
they stole walt's plan to blow up gus, too
Mar 26th 2016
100
I'm also sad we'll never get to see Cranston as Lex
Mar 26th 2016
103
holy shit, just realized this. lolol
Apr 06th 2016
203
Yeah this shit made no sense
Mar 26th 2016
115
KINGDOM COME, The Comic That Foretold BATMAN V SUPERMAN
Mar 27th 2016
124
Best thing about it,Suicide Squad trailer playing before this played..lo...
Mar 27th 2016
125
I agree
Mar 27th 2016
128
Sigh. Shit is way too sloppy and haphazard to allow Snyder to continue.
Mar 27th 2016
132
Jason MomoBonet looked cool as shit.
Mar 28th 2016
134
How long was he in it?
Mar 28th 2016
135
Few seconds.
Mar 28th 2016
136
that shit looked like an underwater maybe its Maybelline commercial
Mar 28th 2016
137
      and horrifying
Mar 28th 2016
143
      I was like WTF is THAT
Mar 29th 2016
148
      Lol @ all of this
Mar 28th 2016
144
      I'm DEAD
Dec 16th 2016
291
NOPE! Not getting my money.
Mar 28th 2016
139
yeah...
Mar 30th 2016
170
I have many, many gripes but I think I mostly liked it...
Mar 28th 2016
140
that's basically where i'm at:
Mar 29th 2016
160
Seemed like the abridged version of 4 other okay movies.
Mar 28th 2016
145
Literally *all they have to do* is replace Snyder.
Mar 28th 2016
146
I have a friend who thinks Kanye should be Lex Luthor
Mar 29th 2016
147
Bruh, when Lois meets with Black military man on the bench...
Mar 29th 2016
150
      I don't watch Scandal but when he was on Nightly Show, he was on a bench
Mar 29th 2016
154
So we can all agree that the real winner here is
Mar 29th 2016
149
Had me up to "Not being sexy".
Mar 29th 2016
151
lol, dudes on this board have the HIGHEST standards
Mar 29th 2016
152
      I thought I read it wrong. Went back. Read it 2 more times.
Mar 29th 2016
156
      same.
Mar 29th 2016
161
           YUP. fam like we talked about in that one post
Apr 02nd 2016
185
      She not sexy to me, that's just my opinion homie
Mar 29th 2016
158
      I mean you WERE kinda stating it as a universal thing.
Mar 29th 2016
164
      How exactly did he state it like it was universal?
Mar 29th 2016
166
      "Despite not being sexy or imposing, she did well."
Apr 07th 2016
205
           Oh. you can't explain how he made a universal statement. Shocker.
Dec 29th 2016
296
      Right, like he didn't know how she slipped through the cracks...
Mar 29th 2016
168
           lol it was nothing like that
Mar 29th 2016
169
      Man that shit ALWAYS prompts a string of "wtf?" replies
Mar 29th 2016
167
           Dog, i didn't even think folks would completely skip past
Mar 30th 2016
172
                What’s funny is both dudes love to chime in when a post is derailed
Mar 30th 2016
173
                     Fam, you've replied 5 times already. All I said was I was with him...
Mar 30th 2016
174
                          False. The derailment began with you and pretentious username.
Mar 30th 2016
175
                               I can tell you really want this to end by the fervor of your debate.
Mar 30th 2016
176
                                    Shrug, you're the guy who was puzzled by another man's taste in women
Mar 30th 2016
177
                                    LMAO...he makin you mad. LMAO!!!!
Apr 01st 2016
184
      smfh.
Mar 29th 2016
162
      Or everyone just has a different view of what's attractive.
Mar 29th 2016
165
Hard to say, because the movie gives her *nothing* to do.
Mar 29th 2016
153
I was thinking, "why doesn't Lois give the spear to WW" the whole time
Mar 29th 2016
155
I think everyone was thinking that exact same thing
Mar 29th 2016
159
WHY IF THERE ARE THREE JOBS TO DO
Dec 16th 2016
290
Her Theme Song won as well
Apr 02nd 2016
187
I've said a lot elsewhere but...
Mar 29th 2016
157
holy shit. this shit show brought out PlanetInf
Apr 02nd 2016
186
IF ONLY BIGGIE AND PAC'S MOMS HAD THE SAME FIRST NAME
Mar 29th 2016
163
WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME?!
Mar 30th 2016
171
LMAO!!!
Mar 31st 2016
180
I fucked yo bit..wait.. WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME?!
Apr 05th 2016
193
& DEAR MAMA(S) WOULDA BEEN A DUET
Apr 12th 2016
226
What a mess
Mar 31st 2016
178
Batman failed him in life.
Mar 31st 2016
179
3D pearls had a much bigger impact imo
Apr 01st 2016
182
Don't you talk about Det. Munch that way.
Apr 01st 2016
183
looked good. told a friend l'm still awaiting a full blown
Mar 31st 2016
181
I had fun while watching it
Apr 03rd 2016
188
Dark Knight Rises is a good comparison
Apr 06th 2016
198
I DUG IT
Apr 04th 2016
189
ME TOO!
Apr 04th 2016
190
It was a mess. But man - whoever cut the trailer needs to be
Apr 05th 2016
191
People like knowing the entire story in the trailers
Apr 05th 2016
192
Yeah. But they gotta do a better job of making people THINK
Apr 05th 2016
194
RE: Yeah. But they gotta do a better job of making people THINK
Apr 08th 2016
208
not quite the same thing...
Apr 06th 2016
201
maaaaaan, they need to be given a fuckin raise.
Apr 06th 2016
195
      Cosign. That trailer's why the opening weekend was as huge as it was.
Apr 06th 2016
196
i wasn't love with it, but i have a couple questions
Apr 06th 2016
197
weakened Doomsday with the gas grenade
Apr 06th 2016
199
      thx....i was really wondering....
Apr 06th 2016
200
      if they pay attention to any of the books or cartoons
Apr 06th 2016
202
      Batman also made Doomsday chase him back to where the spear was
Apr 07th 2016
206
Worlds Finest was a grillion times better than this, and it ain't even c...
Apr 06th 2016
204
Flawed movie but more interesting than Marvel flicks to me now
Apr 07th 2016
207
but marvel actually makes good movies
Apr 08th 2016
209
RE: Flawed movie but more interesting than Marvel flicks to me now
Apr 08th 2016
210
Anyone who says the tone of the movie is the problem is wrong.
Apr 09th 2016
211
      RE: Anyone who says the tone of the movie is the problem is wrong.
Apr 09th 2016
212
           85% say that tone is *the* problem? Word?
Apr 09th 2016
213
                Jesus man I said a problem, not THE problem
Apr 09th 2016
214
                     We are in total agreement.
Apr 10th 2016
215
                          It doesn't have to have the same tone as Marvel
Apr 10th 2016
216
                               No, not everyone.
Apr 11th 2016
219
                               the tone failed miserably man
Apr 11th 2016
220
                                    This is what I'm talking about, though.
Apr 11th 2016
222
                                         RE: This is what I'm talking about, though.
Apr 12th 2016
223
                                         Not sure I'd agree with this:
Apr 12th 2016
224
                                              never said it couldn't be done
Apr 12th 2016
225
                                         haven't they though? I've seen all these things equally criticized.
Apr 13th 2016
229
                                              Eh. I disagree.
Apr 13th 2016
230
                                                   I agree with PU
Apr 13th 2016
231
                                                   RE: Eh. I disagree.
Apr 13th 2016
232
                                                        The Leftovers is fine.
Apr 16th 2016
234
                               I don’t agree with that first notion at all.
Apr 11th 2016
221
Look at this tweet
Apr 10th 2016
217
Look, I'm not a huge fan of Goyer, but that exerpt needs context
Apr 12th 2016
227
I keep telling y'all.
Apr 13th 2016
228
goyer is gone you idiot
Apr 16th 2016
235
      Hilarious how mad you get
Apr 16th 2016
237
           i'm just keeping you up to date with your favorite universe
Apr 16th 2016
238
                Why are you so mad?
Apr 16th 2016
239
                     Don't play the immature card with me
Apr 17th 2016
241
                          Point in case taken that you're a fuckboy
Apr 17th 2016
242
Why is this still anchored again?
Apr 11th 2016
218
RE: Why is this still anchored again?
Jun 06th 2016
249
      The budget is actually $400 million.
Jun 06th 2016
250
Finally saw the movie. I enjoyed the theological themes and political is...
Apr 15th 2016
233
RE: Finally saw the movie. I enjoyed the theological themes and politica...
Apr 16th 2016
236
      The negative overreaction is something to behold.
Apr 16th 2016
240
The critical reaction was unnecessary to me.
May 28th 2016
243
Trailer for the R-Rated extended cut
Jun 03rd 2016
244
I didn't see the movie, but is that what the CGI really looked like?
Jun 03rd 2016
245
Yes
Jun 03rd 2016
247
I knew the comments section wouldn't let me down:
Jun 03rd 2016
246
      Holy shit at the 2nd comment.
Jun 03rd 2016
248
I'm seeing several reviews saying the Ultimate Edition was much
Jun 28th 2016
251
Yeah one of my friends was saying it was so much better
Jun 28th 2016
252
Right - people are saying it's a night and day difference.
Jun 28th 2016
253
I went to a press screening last night and while yes it's better...
Jun 28th 2016
254
      So...editing was the biggest problem, but the writing still needed work?
Jun 28th 2016
255
      RE: Pretty much.
Jun 28th 2016
256
      Yeah - what you just described is a much better movie.
Jun 28th 2016
257
Just soldiered through the Ultimate edition.... SPOILING SPOILERS SPOIL
Jun 28th 2016
258
i've been trying to watch it over the last couple days
Jul 05th 2016
259
I saw the Ultimate Edition. Bwood was exactly right.
Jul 05th 2016
260
RE: I saw the Ultimate Edition. Bwood was exactly right.
Jul 06th 2016
267
      Exactly. They didn't even address Superman trying to find his mother.
Jul 06th 2016
268
months later and this movie is still being talked about, analyzed
Jul 05th 2016
261
this is the dumbest shit I've ever heard in my life
Jul 06th 2016
270
      this forum is irrelevant. i'm talking about it making headlines on
Jul 06th 2016
271
           The same reason applies.
Jul 07th 2016
272
           because that's how news around a big budget film works
Jul 07th 2016
274
           you're still wrong and dumb
Jul 07th 2016
273
‘BvS’ Ultimate Edition Review: Why I Skipped the Theatrical Cut
Jul 05th 2016
262
Ah thanks
Jul 08th 2016
275
      Please let us know what you think. Nm
Jul 09th 2016
276
A very good review of the Ultimate Cut
Jul 05th 2016
263
Still the best of review of BvS
Jul 05th 2016
264
From the 29 minute mark on thes cats breakdown...
Jul 05th 2016
265
Ah, I knew the positivity around the Ultimate Cut couldn't live long...
Jul 05th 2016
266
its beautiful
Jul 06th 2016
269
Finally saw this...not nearly as bad it was made out to be
Aug 29th 2016
277
Most of the Star Wars plot/motivation issues can be
Aug 29th 2016
278
saw the Extended edition. FAR better.
Nov 26th 2016
279
Waited until it was free on cable, damn this movie made me angry
Dec 05th 2016
280
For your sake I hope Hellyeah doesn't see this.
Dec 05th 2016
281
jesus christ i'm always on this dudes mind ahahahahaha
Dec 12th 2016
283
      Your the one who has hard on for this piece of shit and
Dec 13th 2016
285
           Fam... you're clearly the one with the hard-on for this movie.
Dec 13th 2016
286
                See now you're making up bullshit too
Dec 13th 2016
287
I watched it on HBO while working and STILL felt like it wasted my time
Dec 16th 2016
289
jsut saw the 4K bluray and Ultimate
Dec 12th 2016
282
Can't say Number 3 enough
Dec 12th 2016
284
      Did Lex design all the logos for the metas?
Dec 19th 2016
293
holy SHIT this movie sucks
Dec 16th 2016
288
it wasn't THAT bad
Dec 19th 2016
292
yeah i watched it with my wife and it was fucking awful
Dec 29th 2016
295
I just watched this on HBO last week myself
Dec 30th 2016
298
one of the best honest trailers
Dec 22nd 2016
294
if Eisenbergs character was referred to as "John Smith"
Dec 29th 2016
297
Not in the slightest.
Dec 30th 2016
299
The Ultimate Edition is better, movie still not great though.
Jan 03rd 2017
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