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42. "I say you watch Oz next, so you can see what jump started this"
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wave of serialized television.

Shows like Sopranos, Lost, The Shield, and others pushed it into the stratosphere, but Oz is the show that provided that initial spark of life. I’m not going to front like the show doesn’t have some serious flaws- especially toward the end- but in many ways that’s part of the charm. It’s almost a jump-the-shark premise from the very beginning, and there’s a certain...... cheese to the show that ‘s actually very endearing.

Even when the show goes off the rails in terms of the overall story, many of the character threads remain strong throughout the entire run. I’d say it easily rivals Lost in the character department.

Beecher, Sayid, Shillinger, Alvarez, Adibisi, McMannis, Augustus, the O’Rielly brothers, and a host of others provide an excellent cast of characters throughout and it’s worth watching.

Hell, the O’Rielly Brothers alone get one of the absolute best storylines in any show I’ve ever seen at one point. Not necessarily their entire arc, though the totality of their story is very well executed, but they have one particular arc spanning seasons 5 and 6 that is particularly well done and make the series worthwhile on its own, not to mention help elevate those seasons from some serious flaws. If you have a brother and have ever been tasked with truly being his keeper, that shit will hit home like crazy.

That said, it’s uneven and downright hokey at times, but for me that was part of the appeal. Plus, it really does have something for everyone and hits so many emotional notes right & well that it’s nothing short of impressive. There are some solid cameos from big name actors, a nice slice of shady politics, a shit ton of revenge, redemption, struggle, triumph, love, hate, fear, dominance, submission, defeat, corruption, repentance, ignorance, violence, brilliance (Ryan O’Rielly once again, that motherfucker is slick and manipulative as it gets. He’s more or less a loner with no backup who winds up a legit threat to anyone and everyone, including people with plenty of muscle and influence behind them. One of my all time favorite television characters.)

All that said, it’s still relatively primitive compared to a lot of these other shows and would likely be very different if done today, but for my money it holds up extremely well despite that primitive nature. My guess others would differ with me or say I’m overhyping the show and I wouldn’t necessarily begrudge them that opinion except to reiterate my earlier point that some of the cheesiness, some of the shark-jumping elements are kind of part of the show and there’s sort of a ‘Fast & Furious’ element where it just owns what it is and if you just sort of go with it, you’ll have some fun on the ride.

Of course, if you can’t get past all the full frontal male nudity and ass rape, none of that other stuff matters and it’s definitely not for you lol.

  

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Which HBO series should I watch next? [View all] , Jon, Thu Jan-08-15 10:10 AM
 
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i voted Other
Jan 08th 2015
1
was Treme a show that
Jan 09th 2015
9
      RE: was Treme a show that
Jan 09th 2015
13
           Cool, I think Treme is in the lead so far. Enjoyed the pilot.
Jan 09th 2015
15
                solid choice
Jan 09th 2015
20
I voted Deadwood...
Jan 08th 2015
2
a good western type thing could be refreshing
Jan 09th 2015
14
If you are high
Jan 16th 2015
36
I voted other for True Detective. After TD watch Rome. nm
Jan 08th 2015
3
Not sure why, but I'm surprised at all the True Detective love
Jan 09th 2015
10
The Larry Sanders Show
Jan 08th 2015
4
funnier than Mr. Show?
Jan 08th 2015
5
Band of Brothers
Jan 09th 2015
6
Rome
Jan 09th 2015
7
yeah the lack of closure could be frustrating lol
Jan 09th 2015
11
Tonally speaking
Jan 09th 2015
8
Damn lol BE makes the Wire look FAST?
Jan 09th 2015
12
      The Wire is a snowball at the top of a hill
Jan 10th 2015
22
don't waste your time with Boardwalk
Jan 09th 2015
16
First two seasons are must watch
Jan 14th 2015
30
      Narcisse was great in Season 4 too.
Mar 09th 2015
41
True Detective or Deadwood
Jan 09th 2015
17
FUCKIN DEADWOOD
Jan 09th 2015
18
Getting On is so slept on.
Jan 09th 2015
19
criminally.
Jan 14th 2015
32
True Detective,Treme then Deadwood
Jan 09th 2015
21
true detective, band of brothers, deadwood.
Jan 10th 2015
23
I'd watch the two seasons of Rome before any of those
Jan 10th 2015
24
er.. Sopranos if you havent
Jan 10th 2015
25
What is it about the Sopranos? I could never feel interested.
Jan 14th 2015
34
Really? That's mind boggling to me.
Mar 09th 2015
44
      I don't remember which bits I saw, but
Mar 10th 2015
46
           funny because the show addresses those things
Mar 10th 2015
47
                Yep.
Mar 10th 2015
48
Man you literally just said everything I came here to say.
Mar 09th 2015
43
Other - Newsroom - and I'll tell you why
Jan 10th 2015
26
a little late, but I'll break down some of my favorites
Jan 14th 2015
27
Yeah that's another thing about Treme:
Jan 14th 2015
29
So i chose Treme, absolutely in love withit, S1 complete.
Jan 14th 2015
28
word?
Jan 14th 2015
31
Yes. Its crazy to me that this
Jan 14th 2015
33
I'd say Season 2 might be even better than Season 1
Jan 14th 2015
35
"The Corners" Must watch
Jan 16th 2015
37
Update: Finished Treme, and it might be my favorite show ever
Mar 09th 2015
38
^^ TRUTH ^^
Mar 09th 2015
40
TREME > alladat... imo.
Mar 09th 2015
39
^sound reasoning^
Mar 10th 2015
45

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