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http://www.vulture.com/2014/05/spoiler-post-x-men-days-of-future-past-screenwriter-simon-kinberg.html

>Spoiler Bomb: Talking X-Men Deaths and Inside Jokes With Days of Future Past’s Screenwriter
By Matt Patches

X-Men: Days of Future Past might be the most simultaneously spoiler-heavy and spoiler-free movies of all time. In the sequel to 2011's First Class, the shocks emerge from everything Bryan Singer and writer-producer Simon Kinberg don't do. Or undo? Redo? Time travel is the franchise installment's curveball, tearing through history and rebuilding it into a new reality. Vulture talked to Kinberg about Days of Future Past, navigating the logic obstacle course, and winding up with Days of Future Past's grand finale — so beware of MASSIVE SPOILERS.

In the film, Kitty Pryde's fourth dimension–bending powers teleport Wolverine (Hugh Jackman) back from the war-torn dystopia of 2037, when Professor X, Magneto, Storm, and the rest of the X-Men fend off high-tech Sentinels, to 1973, when Mystique's assassination of inventor Bolivar Trask sets the apocalyptic events into motion. There, he encounters the cast from X-Men: First Class, a younger version of Project X founder William Stryker, and the threads that allow him to revive those killed off-between X-Men: The Last Stand and Days of Future Past's terrifying future. Jean Grey, Cyclops, Beast, and Rogue all return for a final beat that plays like a reversal of the Lost finale.

Below, Kinberg addresses undoing X-Men: The Last Stand, character rebirths, lingering questions, and what exactly was going on in that post-credits stinger:

V: When this many name actors into a movie, it's usually a question of how and when, not if, half of them will die. Not only does everyone in Days of Future Past survive, but previously deceased characters come back to life. Was the resolution of Days of Future Past an absolute from the beginning?

SK: I went back recently — like two days ago, because I've been in Baton Rouge and my brain's been in Fantastic Four — I put my brain back into Days of Future Past, and I looked at my original outline for the movie, which was dated exactly two years before we're premiering the movie: May 10th, 2012. The original outline, the first thing anyone read — the studio, the producers, anyone — it was something me and Matthew Vaughan worked on together. In that original outline, the characters that come back at the end of this movie came back. For me, the fun of this movie from when I said, 'We should do Days of Future Past,' was literally the scene of changing the future and Jean is going to come back and Jean and Wolverine are going to have a reunion. Mainly because I carry such guilt over X-Men: (The Last Stand). The way we killed Jean in X3 haunts me because I love the Dark Phoenix saga so much.


V: Do you have regrets over that movie?

SK: It was a missed opportunity. That and Days of Future Past are my two favorite X-Men runs. So, I feel like what we did on "Dark Phoenix" was not make it the "Dark Phoenix" movie. We made "The Cure" movie with "Dark Phoenix" as a subplot. If I was going to do it now, and if we were doing it now because comic book movies are different, the darkness and the drama of that story would be differently supported.


V: I'm ridiculed for loving Cyclops more than Wolverine, but I'll admit I shed a tear when James Marsden walked on screen.

SK: People love Cyclops in the comics. Jimmy does an admirable job. Not to make this about X3, but in X3 we did what we did with Cyclops partly because we had a schedule nightmare. He was making, ironically, Superman with Bryan. We had a week with him and we needed to make a decision to integrate him into the film then lose him.


V: The magic of Days of Future Past's time travel allows all you to slaughter all the surviving X-Men in the opening set piece. And then again later in the film. To what degree can you tease an audience like that?

SK: There was definitely a line. The thing that's tricky about that is, you don't want the audience to think, 'Every time someone dies it's a trick, so I don't want to emotionally invest in them anymore.' But we wanted to establish Kitty's power as we've defined it, both visually and dramatically, as opposed to just verbally. And there's something radical about starting a movie with a bunch of characters and seeing how badass the villains, the Sentinels, are.


V: For a brief moment I thought Wolverine was dead. But apparently his healing powers prevent him from drowning at the bottom of the Potomac! Comic Book Guy question: How does that work?

SK: That was part of the challenge. Bryan and I asked, 'How do you actually put Wolverine in real jeopardy?' Not just getting shot or blown up. Bryan had some science for how the lungs would rebuild themselves.


V: There's a very brief moment — it might even be two shots — where Kitty Pryde (Ellen Page) makes eye contact with Iceman (Shawn Ashmore) as she zips through walls with Bishop (Omar Sy). By the end of X-Men: The Last Stand, the Rogue-Iceman-Kitty love triangle was still a question mark. What should I infer here? Or am I reading way too into that glance?

SK: It's a really astute catch because that's absolutely the intention. That is its own complicated thing because we shot a sequence with Rogue (for Days of Future Past). But Rogue in that future, where Kitty and Bobby are living as refugees, is gone. She's gone from their lives. Even in the version we shot with Rogue, she was gone from their lives. And in the darkness and sadness of losing so many of their friends, and specifically Rogue, Bobby and Kitty ended up together. That's totally the intention of that look. We debated that look — would it confuse audiences? Would it look like a plan they're conceiving? It's just meant to be an emotional character moment between them. It's a subtle read. And the idea is that, once we've reset the world with the events of 1973, there was never a world in which their friends and Rogue were killed. So he never strayed from Rogue. He stayed with her as plotted in the original movies.

Shit like that, in the whole movie with all the time travel stuff — what would have happened, what did happen, what changed — there's a rationale behind pretty much everything in the movie. We talked about a ton. I've never talked so much about a movie while making it.


V: Was there something specific that plagued you?

SK: There was so much because we wanted to honor X1 through 3 even though we were changing the timeline of those movies. I think the big thing for me is how Charles's mansion is different when Logan wakes up in the changed future, but still the same as it sort of was. When Logan wakes up, it's not the school from X1. It's the mansion/school from the X1 period because of what's changed. If you look, take a look at the (lighting and design). It's different.


V: Quicksilver throws out a line to the X-Men that recalls comic book history: "My Mom knew a man who could bend metal." Knowing Magneto is the father of Quicksilver in the comics, is it a planted seed or inside joke?

SK: (Laughs) A little tease. You know the intention of that tease. Hardcore fans will know. Some people who get that Magneto is a bit of a playboy will know.


V: Stryker is a character that keeps reappearing in the franchise, perhaps because he's one of the only identifiable bad guys the X-Men have encountered. And then, in the final beats of the film, it turns out he's Mystique — the ultimate "WTF." Will that payoff in the future?

SK: We really wanted to do something subtle with Stryker in this movie. We wanted it to be the beginning of the origin of him. He's in the shadows most of this film. In some ways, Stryker was included in order to trigger something for Wolverine. How would it impact Wolverine, going back in time and seeing this guy who is going to manipulate him in the future. That was just interesting. Stryker's been interesting in the books and the Brian Cox version was fantastic. But the last moment in the movie with the Mystique reveal … there's for sure more to that. As we follow the characters in to X-Men: Apocalypse, we have to address that and make it a real thing.


V: At the end of this movie, you tease Apocalypse, one of the Big Bads of the X-Men universe. Is there a lot of pressure shooting one of these introductory, post-credit stingers?

SK: The hope of Days of Future Past is that people like it and, even though we changed a ton from the original comic, we stayed true to the essence of it. But the hope is also to broaden the audience, people who aren't necessarily hardcore X-Men fans, or maybe haven't even seen an X-Men movie, go see this movie. Hopefully the event of the cast draws people in. So the pressure on Apocalypse is to do something similar. Broaden the audience and stay true to the core ideals of the comics and fans. I don't approach this stuff as a business, I approach it as a writer and an artist, so how do we do something different? First Class was so different in tone and character. Days of Future is a completely different movie. Science fiction and ambitious. I want Apocalypse to feel ambitious.


V: How does that character complicate the world for you? We know he builds pyramids with his mind.

SK: It's more of an opportunity. For most of these X-Men movies, Magneto is the villain. Or Stryker. So the idea of having a new villain and super powerful villain. It's extinction stakes, which these movies haven't visualized before. The best superhero movies have subgenres. Days of Future Past is time travel sci-fi. Apocalypse is a disaster movie mashed up with superhero movies.

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X-Men: Days of Future Past (Singer, 2014) [View all] , bwood, Thu Jun-05-14 01:44 AM
 
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I'm in, but I wish Vaughn was doing it.
Oct 24th 2013
1
in my top 3 comic arcs
Oct 24th 2013
2
This is my most hyped movie for next year...
Oct 25th 2013
3
Yea, this is the 3rd most anticpated movie for next year
Oct 25th 2013
4
Trailer is up
Oct 29th 2013
5
I'm all in
Oct 29th 2013
6
YYYYEEEEEAAAA NIIIIGGGGGGAAAA!!!!
Oct 29th 2013
7
Yezzir
Oct 29th 2013
10
aw shit.
Oct 29th 2013
12
this is a step in the right direction...
Oct 29th 2013
8
Love Days of future Past as a storyline, trailer has me optimistic
Oct 29th 2013
9
Look like Bryan Singer binge watched the cartoon on Netflix
Oct 29th 2013
11
I'm not sold on the trailer
Oct 29th 2013
13
Likewise...but I'm still peepin nmw
Oct 30th 2013
14
Rouge has been edited out of the movie *swipe*
Dec 20th 2013
15
just grasped the concept, and i'm excited
Dec 20th 2013
16
Young Toad Hops into X-MEN: DAYS OF FUTURE PAST *swipe*
Jan 09th 2014
17
Script leaked *swipe*
Jan 17th 2014
18
You going to read it?
Jan 17th 2014
19
      If I can find it yea. nm
Jan 17th 2014
20
Teaser of the trailer dropping next week
Mar 17th 2014
21
RE: X-Men: Days of Future Past (Singer, 2014)
Mar 20th 2014
22
Official Trailer #2
Mar 24th 2014
23
I really don't know what looks better, this or Cap 2.
Mar 24th 2014
24
looks dope
Mar 24th 2014
25
this looks encouraging
Mar 26th 2014
26
between this & the reviews of the first 10 minutes i'm super excited
Mar 30th 2014
27
First clip from the movie. It's dope.
Apr 14th 2014
28
YYYOOO!!! This new trailer is the fucking shit!
Apr 16th 2014
29
i actually didn't like it
Apr 17th 2014
30
I don't know if lifting a stadium is better than the Golden Gate
Apr 17th 2014
34
Um, ruh roh....
Apr 17th 2014
31
16 years after the alleged incident?
Apr 17th 2014
32
The timing supposedly has something to do with....
Apr 17th 2014
33
RE: Um, ruh roh....
Apr 18th 2014
35
      That shit is disgusting
Apr 18th 2014
36
Hands down the best X-Men movie. No contest.
May 11th 2014
37
Embargo ends Sunday I think
May 11th 2014
38
It's neck to neck with Cap 2 for me. nm
May 11th 2014
39
Behind Cap 2, for sure. Way ahead of Amazing Spider-Man 2.
May 23rd 2014
49
I was no joke waiting for your early review
May 11th 2014
40
Thank You. I know it's tough for most people to make it out....
May 13th 2014
44
Disagreed. Still X2.
May 23rd 2014
46
      Na. This was more engaging emotionally. At least for me. nm
May 23rd 2014
51
Channing Tatum WILL be Gambit in an upcoming movie.
May 13th 2014
41
Taylor Kitsch should never be given a superhero role ever again
May 13th 2014
43
      It wasn't Kitsch's fault that the script was laughably awful.
May 23rd 2014
47
           He seems more brooding than charismatic:
May 23rd 2014
53
                You may be right.
May 23rd 2014
55
Might have to sneak out for a late night show on this one
May 13th 2014
42
Yeah, this might be the best one in the franchise thus far.
May 23rd 2014
45
Mostly good, if expectedly cluttered. The best since X2 by a mile.
May 23rd 2014
48
Really good; lacked thrills
May 23rd 2014
50
To be honest guys, go see Edge of Tomorrow over everything out
May 23rd 2014
52
So, 3D's not necessary for this?
May 23rd 2014
54
Absolutely not.
May 23rd 2014
57
I'm definitely spending money on EoT.
May 27th 2014
120
May 23rd 2014
56
It's just too big a story for one 130 minute film.
May 23rd 2014
58
Make two or three 90 minute movies.
May 23rd 2014
59
Agreed, but that's why I say this should have been a two part film
May 23rd 2014
60
      I wonder if it could've worked predominantly in the present.
May 23rd 2014
61
           That's a better movie but a worse summer blockbuster
May 23rd 2014
64
^^cosigning everything in this reply^^
May 27th 2014
121
RE:They got wolverine going back and forth thru time, lol
May 23rd 2014
62
There's a pull quote for the poster.
May 23rd 2014
63
lol
May 25th 2014
77
Yeah, 100 million could be tough, even with Monday
May 23rd 2014
65
Totally worked for me
May 23rd 2014
66
it was really enjoyable
May 23rd 2014
67
solid movie. nothing more or less.
May 24th 2014
68
Agreed, every word.
May 24th 2014
69
word
May 25th 2014
96
RE: bullshit. First Class was that goodness
Nov 16th 2014
162
Romijn was a better mystique
May 24th 2014
70
Agree
May 25th 2014
75
No question. She's menacing.
May 25th 2014
88
Huge spoilers but the best summary I've seen:
May 24th 2014
71
SPOILER
May 25th 2014
72
Which death?
May 25th 2014
81
RE: SPOILER
May 25th 2014
83
Dug it a lot, loads of fun
May 25th 2014
73
Give it a B...lots of unintentionally funny moments in this (spoilers)
May 25th 2014
74
I'm taking a guess you didn't see First Class or Wolverine
May 25th 2014
76
      To be fair...
May 25th 2014
87
           Not really. But to each their own....I guess...
May 26th 2014
101
Revised continuity question
May 25th 2014
78
RE: Revised continuity question
May 25th 2014
82
Oops. That was ass backwards
May 25th 2014
84
      Since Mystique shot Trask in 1973 in this one...
May 25th 2014
86
           Mystique was free at the end of this one
May 25th 2014
90
           No. In the original timeline.
May 25th 2014
94
           i was told continuity didn't exists because
May 25th 2014
92
They new did a soft reboot course correction
May 26th 2014
103
Dug it
May 25th 2014
79
It was EXACTLY like the post-credit scene in Avengers.
May 25th 2014
91
      The people around me were staring at me like I was crazy.
May 25th 2014
97
Explain how Mystique's DNA made the future sentinels such bad asses?
May 25th 2014
80
Explanation: it makes no sense. Don't think about it.
May 25th 2014
85
They just wanted a piece of Jennifer Lawrence......I bought it
May 25th 2014
89
from my understanding, her shape shifting DNA
May 25th 2014
93
...............
May 25th 2014
95
I re-watched The Last Stand last night.
May 25th 2014
98
      well...gotta disagree with you on one point...
May 26th 2014
102
There's something off about this whole film... (spoilers abound)
May 26th 2014
99
yeah darwin should have been the focus
Jun 16th 2014
161
I liked it a lot, but I still want these films to be better.
May 26th 2014
104
They need to take a cue from the last 45 mins. of Avengers.
May 26th 2014
105
Completely agree.
May 26th 2014
107
I agree about Quicksilver
May 26th 2014
108
quicksilver is my biggest gripe
May 27th 2014
109
Funnier than that, I read an article that claims that....
May 27th 2014
111
      To be fair, that's the problem with, like, EVERY trip to the past flick.
May 27th 2014
112
it actually does make sense if you think about it.
May 27th 2014
122
I thought it was a nerdy nod to the fact that he is actually his son
May 27th 2014
124
      To me, it was just too on the nose.
May 27th 2014
128
It's pretty amazing that they managed to screw up the continuity...
May 26th 2014
106
Did you question a now future past Wolverine's motivations
May 27th 2014
125
RE: It's pretty amazing that they managed to screw up the continuity...
May 27th 2014
130
      Oh, I enjoyed Ratner's subtraction, and was o_O at Kitty...
May 27th 2014
131
it was just ok
May 27th 2014
110
I loved it. Better than Avengers though?
May 27th 2014
113
OH, and the Stiffler lookalike as Stryker was a no go for me.
May 27th 2014
114
He played a douchey dude in Jack Reacher.
May 27th 2014
116
That's right.... he was the head "tough" in the street beating...
May 27th 2014
117
      Yep. He's great in that role.
May 27th 2014
118
ha ha, I TOTALLY thought that was Stifler
May 27th 2014
133
LOL...i feel like i watched a different movie...it was boring...
May 27th 2014
115
i'm so glad it far exceeded my expectations. (some spoilers)
May 27th 2014
119
Aka Brett Ratner never existed
May 27th 2014
123
Can't think of a movie that painted a bleaker future
May 27th 2014
126
Bishop is another gripe.
May 27th 2014
127
Spoiler
May 28th 2014
134
      That didn't really amount to much though.
May 28th 2014
135
Dude. They ripped.....
May 27th 2014
129
good for an X-Men movie, but the effects are the best thing about it
May 27th 2014
132
RE: good for an X-Men movie, but the effects are the best thing about it
May 28th 2014
136
RE: good for an X-Men movie, but the effects are the best thing about it
May 28th 2014
137
      LOL...i love him trying to show you the "truth" tho...n/m
May 28th 2014
138
           yeah, i fucked up
May 28th 2014
140
                it's all good, it was just funny...
May 29th 2014
141
Basically.
May 28th 2014
139
the quality of that costume/makeup has plummetted
May 31st 2014
149
      Easily explained
Jun 03rd 2014
154
I figured it had to be Sunfire because of the powers
May 29th 2014
142
It was Sunspot. n/m
May 29th 2014
143
Which doesn't make much sense, what with the perma-dark sky
May 30th 2014
146
      RE: Which doesn't make much sense, what with the perma-dark sky
Jun 02nd 2014
153
I thought, when did Human Torch get licensed by Fox.
May 29th 2014
144
man ya'll are this upset with it?
May 30th 2014
145
Despite a few nitpicks this was dope
May 30th 2014
147
Dope
May 30th 2014
148
need more Quicksilver.
May 31st 2014
150
^THIS^
Jun 03rd 2014
155
big time. after all the shit talked about him
Jun 11th 2014
157
loved it...that dystopian future needed more time tho...the action
Jun 01st 2014
151
I've been struggling to get through the comic version.
Jun 02nd 2014
152
Solid. Suffered from lack of characterization & the Quicksilver scene
Jun 03rd 2014
156
Definitely not the best X-men movie, First Class is still way better
Jun 12th 2014
158
well...
Jun 13th 2014
159
RE: i agree
Jun 15th 2014
160
RE: lofl at people biotching about this
Nov 16th 2014
163
The Rogue Cut is my preferred version of "Days of Future Past"
Jul 14th 2015
164
Agreed, it was a good watch.
Jul 14th 2015
165
I wish they could just update my download from iTunes.
Jul 15th 2015
166
Email Apple. They have to do something about that.
Jul 16th 2015
167
      I don't think so
Jul 16th 2015
168
           Ok. That was a misunderstanding on my part.
Jul 16th 2015
169
agreed. and more scenes set in the future are always welcomed
Jul 18th 2015
170
I'll check for it
Jul 21st 2015
171
Probably could've stood to just be named "Director's Cut".
Sep 14th 2015
172

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