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>Touch of Evil (and many others) would like to have a word with
>you.
>

Touch of Evil does have a great, perfect opening shot that was incredibly influential. The reason I'd give the edge to Episode 4 is because its opening shot is so incredibly efficient and effective at setting the narrative in motion and setting the stakes for the entire series. With that one shot we know the following: the good guys, the bad guys, how much more big and powerful the villains are, what's at stake (the star destroyer literally obscuring a planet, the protagonists and most of the screen). That's all done in about 20-30 seconds


>>Episode 4 kicked in the door for what could be done visually
>>in film.
>
>Are you talking about from an FX standpoint? Otherwise...
>

Spielberg had already invented the modern blockbuster with Jaws. Episode 4 raised the bar for what could be accomplished visually with films. I'd argue that it was the definitive benchmark for mixing FX with real special effects until Terminator 2.

>>Star Wars also permanently reshaped how and what
>>movies get made in Hollywood.
>
>If true (which arguably it's not), isn't that terrible? If
>you're talking about studios shifting their emphasis to big,
>effects-driven, tent-pole spectacles with avalanches of
>cross-promotional tie-ins (happy meals, apparel, shitty toys,
>etc) marketed to the lowest common denominator, isn't that a
>shitty development in American movie making?
>

Star Wars had an effect that could be considered a gift and a curse. I'm pretty sure there were films that were big prior to Star Wars, but none were ever as big as Star Wars. I'm not just talking about financially but culturally. Star Wars (as a film and a franchise) grabbed the world's attention completely. It's still everywhere.

>>Also, Episode 4 is arguably the
>>most postmodern film ever.
>
>Curious what you mean by this. In what way is it post-modern?
>

George Lucas' approach to creating the story is what makes Star Wars postmodern. He grabbed a bunch of influences from multiple sources that vary between cultures and periods. Lucas basically took the adventure serial and remixed it into a Frankenstein of sorts: part samurai film, part space opera, part Spaghetti western, part Greek tragedy, etc.

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What is the best movie ever made? What is your favorite movie? [View all] , phenompyrus, Thu Oct-26-17 07:45 AM
 
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RE: What is the best movie ever made? What is your favorite movie?
Oct 26th 2017
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The 400 Blows
Oct 26th 2017
2
GOAT: Star Wars Episode 4; Favorite: Brazil
Oct 26th 2017
3
lmao at Star Wars.......but I agree lol
Oct 26th 2017
8
RE: GOAT: Star Wars Episode 4; Favorite: Brazil
Oct 26th 2017
10
     
RE: What is the best movie ever made? What is your favorite movie?
Oct 26th 2017
4
I would argue the original Muppet Movie is the greatest movie ever
Oct 26th 2017
5
...and i might not argue with you...
Nov 04th 2017
29
Best: Goodfellas Favorite: Billy Madison
Oct 26th 2017
6
Best and Favorite: Goodfellas
Oct 26th 2017
7
I have to watch Goodfellas every time it's on
Nov 07th 2017
32
Best Movie: Escape from New York, My Favorite: The Jerk
Oct 26th 2017
9
Best-Godfather I Fav-Goodfellas or The Usual Suspects
Oct 26th 2017
11
Can't go wrong here.....
Oct 26th 2017
12
Best and Favorite are The Godfather
Oct 26th 2017
13
best: The Good, The Bad & The Ugly
Oct 26th 2017
14
Best: Shawshank Favorite: Kingdom of Heaven DC
Oct 26th 2017
15
I keep trying to convince myself to watch the director's cut but.....
Oct 27th 2017
19
      Watch it. Right now. Thank me later
Oct 27th 2017
22
RE: What is the best movie ever made? What is your favorite movie?
Oct 27th 2017
16
Memento
Oct 27th 2017
17
Best: Aliens
Oct 27th 2017
20
Best: Godfather 2. Fav: Karate Kid. Goodfellas is closest to being both
Oct 27th 2017
21
best: The Godfather, Pt. II
Oct 27th 2017
23
favorite: No Country for Old Men
Oct 27th 2017
24
hrmpf...Best: The Bad Sleep Well (Kurosawa) Favorite: The Matrix
Oct 29th 2017
25
The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly
Oct 29th 2017
26
best: goodfellas | favorite: the third man
Oct 30th 2017
27
Best: Godfather II, Favorite: Platoon ( or vice versa, actually)
Nov 03rd 2017
28
<sigh>...i think my heads gonna explode...
Nov 05th 2017
30
way to hard to answer but Lawrence of Arabia and Apocalypse Now
Nov 06th 2017
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