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42. "Well, it *is* the penultimate season, so set-up was expected. "
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>I didn't love last season's season finale either, but this
>one felt really incomplete. I don't feel like they really
>ended up accomplishing much, story-telling wise, this season.

I think they accomplished a great deal, but admittedly they left a lot of it unresolved, presumably in order to set up all the dominoes to fall permanently next season. With as much as they set up, we're in for a doozy.

>No Oleg and nothing on either investigation was wack.

Yeah, that was clearly all set-up, but we did learn a ton about Oleg and his family this season, and he's one of many possible lead characters that has been given plenty of reason to turn on his country.

>The whole Kansas sub=plot was completely dropped, which I
>wouldn't have minded if Character Actress Margo Martindale
>hadn't have explicitly told them to keep on with the mission.
>They never even showed the world's most boring female again
>after Phillip ran the "I'm married" game.

I thought they made clear that Phillip wasn't going to be able to get homegirl back in the loop again, so the mission was falling into Liz's hands. Re: that not coming back, I chalked that up to the same thing I chalked up the young daughter of CIA dude disappearing for a while to: as Liz said this episode, they're constantly running multiple missions each, so there's only so much streamlining the show can do.

>Mischa appeared, then disappeared just as quickly.

That one puzzles me a bit-- I still don't think that's gone for good, as it's such a huge bombshell for Phillip and he's teetering on the edge of not wanting anything to do with any of this ever again that I imagine it'll come into play next season. Really this season, it served mostly as a plot device to get rid of Gabriel, which I'm fine with overall-- although I'll miss his steady hand on the show.

>Stan's working the Russian chick never really went anywhere
>either. Unless the resolution was that she and her new
>boyfriend were telling the truth. And ha @ her boyfriend being
>Styr the Thenn from GoT.

Yeah, I don't mind that mission not being done either. Again, we see Stan teetering on the edge, and if this girl dies or if this mission ends poorly, then Stan could easily turn imo. Then again, maybe this girl will be the one to pass info about Oleg to Stan somehow. Or maybe he uses the girl to find out about Phillip and Liz. Or something.

The thing I like about the show *is* the uncertainty. They've proven for years now that they know how to play the long game, so with most of these unresolved plot lines, especially as the show heads into its final season, I trust them completely. So I have faith that will pay off.

>>So as usual, Liz is ride or die and Phil has to compromise
>his
>>uneasy feelings
>
>I looked at Liz a little different. I get the sense that part
>of the reason she told Phillip that they need to stay is
>because she's getting attached to being an American. During
>the final Elton John montage they spent a lot of time showing
>Elizabeth lingering over all the material possessions that
>she's acquired while here. She's not ready to leave everything
>that they've built here, and is willing to go at it alone to
>help preserve it for as long as possible.

110%. This was a HUGE revelation, as we've really never seen Liz consider that before. As big a bombshell as anything else we got this season. And, of course, the show revealed it silently. That montage was an absolute monster for character moments.

>>The look Stan gave his lady when she was giving him her
>>"recruitment pitch" He has to know something's up with her
>>now
>
>I think she's def. a spy, but not necessarily for the
>Russians. I think she might be with the CIA or some other US
>agency, who might be watching over him for any number of
>reasons (his affair with Nina, his contact with Oleg, his
>threats to his boss' boss). Or she could be with the Israelis
>or something.

Yeah, agreed here too. And I wouldn't be surprised either way it turns out: either Stan has his blindspot exploited, and he gets compromised, or he's too damn smart for that, which then leads to him realizing even more deeply what he communicated to Henry, that he can't trust anyone-- which could then absolutely put Phil and Liz on his radar.

Again, the fact that I have noooooooo idea how this show will end excites me to no end.

>>Will Henry go rogue due to not being allowed to go to the
>>boarding school (dime them out?)
>
>I think they're going to end up allowing him to go (keeps them
>attached to the U.S.), but it's another thing that I wished
>they showed some sort of resolution to.

I was excited that they didn't resolve that, because I thought it was going to be a simple get-him-off-the-show move. Instead, it was all set-up to (a) expose how smart he is, which could cause problems, (b) drive a wedge between him and Philip, now that Phil is all "families stick together" after the Pasha fiasco, and (c) could totally move Henry to get closer to Stan, which would also be really bad news for our heroes.

>I don't see how they can go anywhere else with Martha. They're
>implying that she's going to adopt the kid and find salvation
>there.

Yeah, I thought that was a ray of sunshine in a bleak end to a bleak season of a bleak show that promises to get bleaker, haha. Plus, she's crushing it on Broadway six nights a week, so I'm not sure how much free time she'll have in the next few months anyhow.

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are they ready to tell their son?
Mar 10th 2017
1
This season +1 more
Mar 10th 2017
2
The A-Team
Mar 12th 2017
3
RE: The A-Team
Apr 02nd 2018
51
Stan's gym prospect
Mar 15th 2017
4
RE: Stan's gym prospect
Mar 15th 2017
5
      Both are plausible
Mar 16th 2017
6
           I think A) might be correct
Mar 16th 2017
8
                That was my take, approach him with something familiar
Mar 16th 2017
9
When I saw the corn scene, my mind went right to the first X-Files film
Mar 16th 2017
7
those bugs gonna start WW3
Mar 23rd 2017
10
      lol right? they spend more time with their fake kid
Mar 23rd 2017
11
      I think they lurkin lol
Mar 30th 2017
12
      Yeah that episode was fantastic
Apr 02nd 2018
52
shit's starting to turn
Apr 05th 2017
13
Henry aged about 20 years overnight
Apr 06th 2017
14
      What if we fell for the okey doke and it turns out Henry is the one?
Apr 07th 2017
15
      Lol
Apr 02nd 2018
53
Paige is gonna be a true Soviet patriot.
Apr 12th 2017
16
when Stan flips the lady at the center, she'll put him on Phil and Liz
Apr 12th 2017
17
      I'm thinking Phil is gonna try to break up Stan and gym jawn too
Apr 12th 2017
18
           damn that could blow up on both ends
Apr 12th 2017
19
                The center HAS to bring Henry in at some point right?
Apr 14th 2017
20
                     still don't get how he doesn't know yet
Apr 19th 2017
21
                          Next season is the last and Stan is just beginning to connect the dots
Apr 20th 2017
22
                          RE: I kind of agree. But I felt it more last season
Apr 02nd 2018
54
Liz seemed legit hurt by crunchy granola guy
Apr 20th 2017
23
Liz frontin, knowing damm well she was falling for dude
Apr 21st 2017
24
Holly Taylor might be the GOAT child/teen actress in TV
Apr 22nd 2017
25
She's really good
May 28th 2017
36
Phil's girl answered that phone quick lol
Apr 30th 2017
26
Jailbait returns
May 03rd 2017
27
LOL @ jailbait. When she popped up in The Get Down
May 04th 2017
28
Lofl.
Apr 04th 2018
55
The end with the photolab too, fuck
Apr 04th 2018
56
      Episode 11. Jesus... Phil and Liz are monsters
Apr 04th 2018
57
Still blows my mind that Pastor Tim and Dollar Bill from Billions
May 10th 2017
29
I hope they don't write him off
May 12th 2017
30
Toughest episode to an episode... maybe in the show's history.
May 17th 2017
31
I thought the agriculture lab was a tough ep
May 18th 2017
32
Tran and his "but I thought you said"
May 25th 2017
33
LOFL. basically to all of this
Apr 05th 2018
58
Out of curiosity
May 25th 2017
34
it's up there, but not up THERE
May 28th 2017
35
^^^the writing is amazing, but the show itself drags at points
May 30th 2017
37
IMO it is. The Wire an d BB are the only "god level" shows
Apr 05th 2018
59
      Actually Mr. ROBOT gives me god tier feels
Apr 05th 2018
60
Season finale kinda underwhelming
Jun 01st 2017
38
RE: Season finale kinda underwhelming
Jun 01st 2017
39
Yeah, goes back to him telling Henry how he can't trust anyone
Jun 01st 2017
40
      The one thing I wonder about...
Jun 01st 2017
43
Yeah, really underwhelming.
Jun 01st 2017
41
RE:
Jun 01st 2017
45
RE: Well, it *is* the penultimate season, so set-up was expected.
Jun 01st 2017
46
I'm not expecting all stories to be resolved at the end of each season.....
Jun 01st 2017
47
i was satisfied, snice i didn't think they needed to wrap up anythiing
Jun 01st 2017
44
      RE: i was satisfied, snice i didn't think they needed to wrap up anythii...
Jun 01st 2017
48
am I the only one not feeling the slow burn?
Jun 01st 2017
49
      The characters have developed a LOT this season.
Jun 02nd 2017
50

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