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38. "Where do I start?"
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-He needs to climb down off the soap box. Having a syrupy sweet feel good message does not make a movie good or worth watching. Positive does not equal good.

-Let someone else write the damn things. He's an awful, awful writer. He has no ear for dialogue. When I saw the trailer for this movie, I literally winced. Examples:

"I'm gonna enjoy raising your little girls."
??? What grown man would ever taunt another grown man with the fact that he's going to be faced with the responsibility of taking care of 3 children that aren't his?

"You should meet my boss. She wins every case."
No lawyer wins every case. Instead of putting her skills into some sort of context, like referencing some big case that she just won that got a lot of media attention or something more real, he writes one line and makes Gabrielle Union a super-lawyer.

"What does your Ivy league background possibly have in common with him."
"You and I come from two different worlds but there's something going on here."

There's an old saying, "Show, don't tell." They come from different backgrounds, we get it. Stop telling us what the problem might be and show us why it might be a problem.

He doesn't understand subtlety or subtext or nuance. His stories are paint by numbers fables with enough "ghetto" elements--crack dealers, single parents--to make people think of it as "real" and enough "positive" elements--church, we shall overcome speeches, super-successful black professionals--to keep the "uplift the race" folks happy.

And the notion that this guy gets undeserved hate is really off base to me. Even in the negative reviews you can see critics WANTING to like the movie because of all the positives. (The leads, the message, etc.)

"Tyler Perry merits an A for the messages he wants to deliver but only a C-plus for the way he delivers them."
Jeff Strickler
Minneapolis Star Tribune

"The hamfistedness of Daddy's Little Girls ultimately shatters its charms."
Matt Zoller Seitz
New York Times

"Perry has great casting instincts, and in Elba and Union he’s matched two gifted, equally gorgeous actors, both of whom seem ready to make sparks fly. If only their director would let them."
Chuck Wilson
L.A. Weekly

As for the regular folks who get accused of "hating on" Tyler Perry, I can't speak for everyone so I'll speak for myself. I don't hate the guy. He's just not a good filmmaker.







  

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Daddy's Little Girls [View all] , rorschach, Wed Feb-14-07 09:51 PM
 
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did Gabrielle Union play a new character?
Feb 14th 2007
1
It is but...
Feb 14th 2007
3
yeah, i said that too.
Feb 15th 2007
17
*raises eyebrow* Define "a little bit".
Feb 14th 2007
2
I dunno, probably about a year or two.
Feb 14th 2007
4
      RE: I dunno, probably about a year or two.
Feb 14th 2007
5
           I've seen all those expect the Last King...
Feb 15th 2007
7
im just here as a show of support for ur avy
Feb 15th 2007
6
heh
Feb 15th 2007
8
So, is it a problem or not?
Feb 15th 2007
9
oh shit
Feb 15th 2007
14
RE: Daddy's Little Girls
Feb 15th 2007
10
i might should put this in my sig
Feb 15th 2007
11
      ur sig
Feb 19th 2007
42
Perry > Hugh and Drew
Feb 15th 2007
12
He'll do solid Black Movie Numbers...
Feb 16th 2007
18
      Terabithia could be a dark horse
Feb 16th 2007
19
           Ghost Rider in a first round KO
Feb 17th 2007
22
                A "Daddy's Little Girls is #5 and U Mad!!" Post would be hilarious.
Feb 17th 2007
23
hmmm...Stringer Bell not as a druglord? nahhh. n/m
Feb 15th 2007
13
Cue up the "white folks just don't get it" chorus.
Feb 15th 2007
15
Movie critics are their own race
Feb 15th 2007
16
      Yeah mediocrity!
Feb 16th 2007
20
Norbit >>> Daddy's Little Girls
Feb 17th 2007
21
heh. you're funny.
Feb 17th 2007
24
Late Pass: Am I the only one who's stunned to find out Idris is British?
Feb 17th 2007
25
I think hardcore fans of The Wire know. That's about it.
Feb 17th 2007
26
Was there any question he was gonna take a role like this?
Feb 18th 2007
27
      You do know what typcast means right?
Feb 18th 2007
28
           Yeah but it was only a matter of time before he played this role
Feb 18th 2007
29
                Suave, GG auto mechanic?
Feb 18th 2007
30
                     The dude is a hunky love interest
Feb 18th 2007
31
                          When has he established himself as that?
Feb 18th 2007
32
                          You're making less and less sense.
Feb 18th 2007
33
This was a pretty good movie, I don't understand the hate.....
Feb 18th 2007
34
His movies make a lot of money
Feb 18th 2007
35
He's not hated. He's criticized because he's a bad writer.
Feb 18th 2007
36
      So how could his films be better to you?
Feb 18th 2007
37
          
                I agree...
Feb 18th 2007
39
                Yup, I don't know if he's dumb, or he wants it to be dumbed down
Feb 18th 2007
40
I completely enjoyed it.
Feb 19th 2007
41
RE: I completely enjoyed it.
Feb 20th 2007
43
      Then there are idiots who don't know bad writing when they hear it.
Feb 20th 2007
45
Saw it, was really not impressed at all by the acting.
Feb 20th 2007
44
thats what im saying
Feb 22nd 2007
47
Saw it...didn't regret it...
Feb 20th 2007
46
RE: Daddy's Little Girls
Feb 23rd 2007
48
To each his own, but...
Feb 23rd 2007
49
      RE: To each his own, but...
Feb 24th 2007
64
i saw it today, and i now agree white folks shouldn't review black films
Feb 23rd 2007
50
I don't have an intimate knowledge of the court system
Feb 24th 2007
51
Bignick, did you see this movie?
Feb 24th 2007
52
Nope. It looks awful.
Feb 24th 2007
53
      Why are you so harsh on a movie you haven't seen?
Feb 24th 2007
54
           My beef is with people who think he's above criticism cause he's black.
Feb 24th 2007
55
                RE: My beef is with people who think he's above criticism cause he's bla...
Feb 24th 2007
56
                Is the bar really that low?
Feb 24th 2007
57
                     RE: Is the bar really that low?
Feb 24th 2007
58
                          RE: Is the bar really that low?
Feb 24th 2007
59
                               Well, it's like this...
Feb 24th 2007
60
                you shouldn't generalize us...
Feb 24th 2007
61
                     exactly...that's what KILLS ME about hankyhead
Feb 24th 2007
62
                     Of course I didn't mean ALL black folks.
Feb 24th 2007
63
                          RE: Of course I didn't mean ALL black folks.
Feb 25th 2007
65
                               This is exactly the kind of stupid shit I'm talking about.
Feb 25th 2007
66
                                    Damn yall...this is getting heated.
Feb 25th 2007
67
                                         I guess some folks can't handle an adult conversation.
Feb 25th 2007
68
                                         RE: Damn yall...this is getting heated.
Feb 25th 2007
69
                                              And now you're lying.
Feb 25th 2007
70
                                                   RE: And now you're lying.
Feb 25th 2007
71
I liked it
Mar 18th 2007
72

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