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"What stalled the careers of Nipsey, Gibbs, Stalley, etc..."


  

          

Okay, so, can't lie, when I first heard Nipsey's Bullets Ain't Got No Name Vol. 3, I was hyped. This was a mixtape that was very professional sounding, the flows and beat selections were great. And Nip had a presence.

In my head, him getting a major label release and moving on to rap stardom was almost AU-TO-MATIC. I then heard he got signed to Atlantic and later on that deal fizzled. He continues to put out mixtapes, but, he's nowhere near the household name I expected him to become.

Same can be said of Freddie Gibbs. i LOVE Baby Face Killa and Cold Day In Hell and "most" of the EPs he's done with Madlib. Flow is on point (though redundant) and he makes great choruses (as does Nip). Heard about the deal with CTE and rejoiced (although Jeezy does not have a great track record of handling signees very well or even getting an eventual release). That deteriorated.

Stalley? GREAT mixtape, IMMACULATE production. Gets signed to MMG then AUTOMATICALLY drops Rashad as his main producer and has been faltering ever since with no TRUE album release date in sight

Now, here's my first question: Where did these guys go wrong? With Stalley, IMHO, it started with the relinquishing of the majority of production duties from Rashad, which is more OBVIOUS. But, with Nip and Gibbs, I have to believe there has to be a trail of burnt bridges in their wake, but, I'm not up on hip hop news enough to have full clarity.

Second question: Is the day of the homegrown solo rapper dead? I've seen too many whose skills I've enjoyed (Bobby Creekwater, Stat Quo, Pretty Ugly, Dom Kennedy) either disappear completely or only release material sparsely.

It makes me kind of worried for newer cats with great potential like Chance The Rapper as they try to establish their brand.

Are there any clear, cut rules not to violate on the ascent so as to avoid a premature descent?

Come to grips with the fact that most OKP's are of the Nut Hugger lineage, so, if you' re not part of the little cliques that exist 'round here, your posts will probably tank like Souljaboy's album sales.

  

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What stalled the careers of Nipsey, Gibbs, Stalley, etc... [View all] , Remedial, Wed Jan-22-14 11:06 AM
 
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I'm only really a fan of Stalley so
Jan 22nd 2014
1
But, they should have KNOWN that before signing him.
Jan 22nd 2014
2
RE: But, they should have KNOWN that before signing him.
Jan 22nd 2014
5
      Nah, Honest Cowboy wasn't that good.
Jan 22nd 2014
7
Stalley soooo boring on records to me
Jan 23rd 2014
30
      If you've never heard Lincoln City Nights, give it a try.
Jan 23rd 2014
31
           I will, thanks
Jan 23rd 2014
32
The market for rappers of their breed
Jan 22nd 2014
3
True...
Jan 22nd 2014
4
      RE: True...
Jan 22nd 2014
6
           RE: True...
Jan 22nd 2014
9
You mentioned Pretty Ugly. Props for that.
Jan 22nd 2014
8
Pretty Ugly had PRESENCE!!
Jan 22nd 2014
10
PU was that dude for me in the early 00s
Jan 22nd 2014
11
him, Royce and Agallah WERE Grand Theft Auto III for me
Jan 22nd 2014
18
      K-JAH
Jan 23rd 2014
33
Gibbs's career isn't stalled though
Jan 22nd 2014
12
ESGN dropped last year and i loved it
Jan 22nd 2014
13
Nipsey has that
Jan 22nd 2014
15
      What's Nipsey's best project?
Jan 23rd 2014
34
i fuck with nipsey hussle
Jan 22nd 2014
14
I guess it depends how you define stalled
Jan 22nd 2014
16
RE: I guess it depends how you define stalled
Jan 23rd 2014
25
      True mainstream success is hard to attain
Jan 24th 2014
36
           RE: True mainstream success is hard to attain
Jan 25th 2014
43
                Out of curiosity
Jan 27th 2014
46
seems like they are all trying to implement the Curren$y blueprint
Jan 22nd 2014
17
Well said.
Jan 23rd 2014
27
stalley never had a chance.
Jan 22nd 2014
19
The Rawse cosign raised already too high expectations
Jan 23rd 2014
35
let go of the that (major label/'real' album) mentality
Jan 22nd 2014
20
It's not about a major label mentality.
Jan 23rd 2014
28
      RE: It's not about a major label mentality.
Jan 24th 2014
39
      Thanks for filling me in.
Jan 25th 2014
41
      macklemore aint independent ...
Jan 24th 2014
40
           No need to reiterate another man's revelation.
Jan 25th 2014
44
                RE: No need to reiterate another man's revelation.
Jan 27th 2014
45
                     Everyone likes a great cop out...
Jan 27th 2014
47
forget all that, they're doing great. what happened to GANGSTA PILL?
Jan 22nd 2014
21
How are their careers stalled?
Jan 23rd 2014
22
Those dudes are doing well for a rapper in 2014
Jan 23rd 2014
23
yea, Lambo used the term "rich" recently to describe Gibbs
Jan 23rd 2014
24
I think something went down with Pill.
Jan 23rd 2014
26
The problem with being content with mediocrity is..
Jan 23rd 2014
29
      all the guys you listed have perfectly fine careers going.
Jan 24th 2014
37
           Understood.
Jan 25th 2014
42
Nipsey gave a good explanation of his career on Combat Jack's show
Jan 24th 2014
38

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