amen....brother.....the ohio players were all the way baddass, i mean even the image and the name "ohio players" was HARD for the 70s. someone sent me the earth,wind, and fire heritage 1990 live dvd and I just wasnt into it at all and it sounded like they were playing to a retirement home even though it was an arena and I ended up trading that mess in for a store credit and I agree so much with lester(Zapp)on the ohio players unsung when he said that even earth,wind,and fire bite off the ohio players and when i tell some people that, they said that they can hear it with e,w,f horn section. the ohio players have a song titled time slips away and it sounds exactly like something that e,w,f bite off of....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAGV-G8MGrw