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21. "i don't think the nas vs. jay-z comparisons are totally apt"
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The comparisons are steeped in beef and tradition (both being NYC MCs from the same era, who have been considered to be the best by different people at different times), but don't hold much water when you look at their recent output.

In terms of rapping, they're damn near opposites. Nas is the quintessential writer; dotting verses with extreme visual detail and personal exposure, sometimes at the expense of staying on beat. Jay-Z on the other hand, is known for not writing at all. His rhymes rely more on memorable one-liners, slick catchphrases, and an uncanny harmony with the track. He's cool, wealthy, and winning above all else, and rarely reveals much in the way of depth or beyond-the-surface personality. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing, depending on one's personal taste.

Musically, Nas is famous for seemingly not giving a shit about what he raps over, much to his albums' and legacy's detriment. He's tried his hand at making contemporary hits here and there, enough to prove that's not his lane. When coupled with focused executive production (MC Serch, Trackmasters, Salaam Remi & No ID, whoever the fuck at Columbia compiled 'The Lost Tapes'), he can churn out classics head and shoulders above everything else in the rap marketplace. When left to his own devices, he produces albums that are universally disappointing, but showing just enough flashes of brillance to keep people anticipating a full-length release worthy of his still-potent talents.

Jay-Z, by comparison, lives and dies by the hit. Not to say he doesn't have deep album cuts, but his career is mainly defined by keeping up with trends and making catchy records that will please radio and a wide range of fans. He's relentlessly dependable, at the risk of being boringly predictable.

I haven't yet spent enough time with 'Magna Carta Holy Grail' to form a fully-baked opinion, but after my first few listens, I'd say it's essentially just another Jay-Z album. It has some legitimate head nodders ("Picasso Baby", "FUTW", "Somewhere in America", "Heaven"), mainstream-ready tracks ("BBC, "Part II"), some snoozers ("Holy Grail", "Tom Ford", "FuckWithMeYouKnowIGotIt", "La Familia"), and a surprisingly revealing moment ("Jay-Z Blue"). The production sounds expensive and current enough, and the raps are typical Jay-Z fare. There's little new ground covered, but it's mostly satisfying enough.

Meanwhile, 'Life is Good' is proof that when steered in the right direction, Nas is in a different class entirely. He raps with an intensity of several bygone eras (although I'd argue the same goes for Black Thought), and uses tracks that rely on updating classic-style breakbeats with modern flourishes. Even his supposed radio tracks ("Nasty", "The Don", "Daughters") sound nothing like those of his peers. Yes, I'm pretending "Summer on Smash" doesn't exist. He somehow managed to produce an album that avoids most of his bad habits (undeserved martyrdom, tired paranoia, strange and/or half-baked concepts, mediocre beats), and instead puts his strengths (unmatched attention to detail, revealing introspection, rich storytelling, wide topic range) on full display.

When comparing the two albums, you're comparing a triumphant record to one that's "not bad". And when comparing Nas vs. Jay-Z, you're comparing artists who started similarly, but now have very different methods and aims for their music.



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Life is Good vs. Magna Carta Holy Grail [View all] , cheesecake, Sat Jul-06-13 06:44 PM
 
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Life is Good
Jul 06th 2013
1
RE: Life is Good
Jul 08th 2013
40
Life is Good. Not even close IMO
Jul 06th 2013
2
RE: Life is Good vs. Magna Carta Holy Grail
Jul 06th 2013
3
Well, the kicks do not knock on Life is Good.
Jul 06th 2013
4
Life Is Good BY FAR
Jul 06th 2013
5
Who the fuck voted for Magna Carta?
Jul 06th 2013
6
RE: Who the fuck voted for Magna Carta?
Jul 06th 2013
7
Where is this "uniform praise"?
Jul 06th 2013
8
      RE: Where is this "uniform praise"?
Jul 06th 2013
11
bombastic, atruhead and his aliases
Jul 08th 2013
34
What was the agenda behind this poll?
Jul 06th 2013
9
http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=5&topic_id=28152...
Jul 06th 2013
10
LMAO
Jul 06th 2013
15
The only blue Jay is voting for is his kid.
Jul 08th 2013
26
mchg got the beats. lig got the lyrics.
Jul 06th 2013
12
.
Jul 08th 2013
37
I can't wait to read the MCHG side of this.
Jul 06th 2013
13
from "back when" to the end of the album >>>> mchg
Jul 06th 2013
14
I'll add on You Wouldn't Understand on to that and confirm you mean
Jul 06th 2013
16
word
Jul 07th 2013
19
This right here
Jul 07th 2013
22
Up
Jul 07th 2013
17
RE: Up
Jul 07th 2013
18
I'll give Life Is Good the better grade overall
Jul 07th 2013
20
Jay-Z just isn't apt to be compared to Nas at this point, lyrically.
Jul 07th 2013
23
i don't disagree
Jul 08th 2013
29
      LOL
Jul 08th 2013
39
RE: i don't think the nas vs. jay-z comparisons are totally apt
Aug 09th 2013
43
Magnum Garbage Holy Fail can't hold a match to Life Is Good.
Jul 07th 2013
24
damn lol
Jul 08th 2013
25
ASHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Jul 08th 2013
28
A more apt comparison is Life Is Good vs Good Kid M.A.A.D City
Jul 08th 2013
27
The fact that you can compare Nas's 13th album to a fresh new
Jul 08th 2013
30
So then why the comparison in the first place is what I don't get
Jul 08th 2013
31
      I'm not saying they're polar opposites. I'm saying one is better.
Jul 08th 2013
32
      RE: I'm not saying they're polar opposites. I'm saying one is better.
Jul 08th 2013
33
           I don't know if I can even agree with this
Jul 08th 2013
36
           RE: I don't know if I can even agree with this
Jul 08th 2013
41
           RE: I'm not saying they're polar opposites. I'm saying one is better.
Aug 09th 2013
44
      agreed. i only induldge the comparison of a poet and party rapper
Jul 08th 2013
35
^^^L
Jul 08th 2013
42
"Life is Good" Gets My Vote
Jul 08th 2013
38
Life is Good easily. nm
Aug 09th 2013
45

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