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36. "RE: So why not Nas? "
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>Nas is the same. But he's actually a better emcee.

Nas is a better emcee, Jay-Z makes better (IMO) and more accessible songs, with much better production.

>Nas weakness? Though he has plenty of connections.
Nas has connections, but he doesn't use them very often. Aside from a few exceptions, he has often stuck to his same crew. He'll appear on a song for someone else, but he doesn't make it a habit of enlisting these connections for his own works. Plus, his collaborations with others that are for his own work don't always highlight his own talents as brightly.

>Nas has consistently reinvented himself, more or less kept up
>with the times, but with less club hits.

Him keeping up with the times hasn't always resulted in fruitful music that doesn't alienate his fan base. It was cool for It Was Written, Distant Relatives and Life Is Good, but wasn't as heralded for his other work. Matter of fact, some of the biggest blemishes of Nas' career, in many peoples' minds, came from unsuccessful attempts to reinvent himself.

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>>4.) He can make different types of songs. Girl songs, gutter
>>songs, storytelling songs, a good diss song or two,
>>shit-talking songs, etc. He's a pretty complete artist.
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>Nas can do all this and more.

He's more versatile than people give him credit for, I'll give you that. But I don't think he's more versatile than Jay-Z.

>So why hasn't Nas had the same success? The relationship part?
>Lack of club bangers?

He could've utilized his relationships better, and as you said, he could improve with his club bangers. But I'm personally still pretty satisfied with his career as a whole. Still one of the GOATs.

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Why is Jay-Z so successfull? [View all] , organix, Thu Jan-31-13 11:14 AM
 
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why did jayz sold hes sole to illumnaitni
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always stayed hot
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consistency is key
Jan 31st 2013
3
ghostface/de la is consistent too...
Feb 01st 2013
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      Ghostface had 4 years between his first two albums
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quest said something a while back that makes sense
Jan 31st 2013
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this
Jan 31st 2013
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he was able to stay modern and craft songs for the heads and casual fans
Jan 31st 2013
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he got a lot of early breaks and capitalized off them
Jan 31st 2013
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wat
Jan 31st 2013
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      he got a lot of early breaks and capitalized off them
Feb 01st 2013
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RE: Why is Jay-Z so successfull?
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Better songs than the next guy
Jan 31st 2013
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he bagged beyonce
Jan 31st 2013
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Surprised nobody trotted out the "Because Biggie and Pac died" line
Jan 31st 2013
12
^^this too
Feb 01st 2013
16
right shade, played ball, safe and Lazy
Jan 31st 2013
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lol
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RE: right shade, played ball, safe and Lazy
Feb 01st 2013
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But if that's the case...
Feb 01st 2013
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      snoop.ll. nas, ice cube
Feb 01st 2013
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ability to adapt ...to hop on a trend and to hop off a trend
Jan 31st 2013
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no credit for starting trends too? n/m.
Feb 01st 2013
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      yea of course
Feb 01st 2013
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      you didn't SAY it though. thought you might have been salting.
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           yea I see it could have been seen as a diss Im a Jay fan tho
Feb 01st 2013
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      what trends has he started?
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           button ups! grown and sexy! duh!!!
Feb 01st 2013
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One word:
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Talent, relationships, and shrewdness.
Feb 01st 2013
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So why not Nas?
Feb 01st 2013
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      Nas' music isn't nearly as accessible as Jay's music
Feb 01st 2013
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I'd also say that 'Unplugged' and 'Collision Course'...
Feb 01st 2013
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...Cause Jigga Sold His Soul To Hova, That's Why.
Feb 01st 2013
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Dame and Biggs will eventually be written out of the Jay-Z narrative
Feb 01st 2013
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yep its already starting esp BIGGS
Feb 01st 2013
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he's a fantastic songwriter and a cultural chameleon
Feb 01st 2013
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too far, nigga
Feb 01st 2013
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Empire State of Mind
Feb 01st 2013
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well he has good delivery, his own record label and he owns half the net...
Feb 01st 2013
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he doesn't own half the Nets
Feb 01st 2013
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      You're Correct
Feb 02nd 2013
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besides his talent
Feb 01st 2013
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play his album backwards, therein lies the answer.
Feb 02nd 2013
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