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"post-1995, fast R&B songs...with no rappers."
Tue Oct-30-12 02:02 PM by come on people

  

          

this is a list post tangentially related to my previous series on the decline of R&B in popular culture and cultural relevance (related but distinct things). one of the key notions, that i contested, but to which there's some undeniable merit, was that R&B was swallowed by hip-hop.

i think that, ultimately, i disagree with that *partially*. i'd amend it to say that FAST R&B music -- that is, R&B music you can dance to -- has been almost entirely swallowed by hip-hop. it's almost impossible to conceive of POPULAR R&B songs that you can dance to that don't have rappers heavily featured, or that don't involve R&B singers singing over and/or re-intepreting popular hip-hop songs (see: "bag lady" or, slightly more creatively, "buddy" by musiq).

this was highlighted to me by the string of dreary, slow songs on my pandora contemporary R&B station. ultimately i ran out of skips because of their license limits and came here.

(in my opinion) obviously the most enduring and popular example for this post is "love like this" by faith evans:
http://youtu.be/wZ8Of19Ef70

this is one of the very few post-'95 R&B songs that spawned a hip-hop version, instead of the creativity flowing in the opposite direction. and yes, "love like this" is more enduring than "family affair" by MJB, which, along with "ignition (remix)," are the 2 other most obvious examples. what's more, "love like this" does it without sacrificing almost any core R&B feature, e.g., soulful singing as opposed to "tinging" (c) fire, strong song structure & melody as opposed to being driven mainly by rhythm.

so, what are some examples of this? seriously, fast R&B songs where the MAIN version does not feature a rapper (as including a rapper on some form of remix is almost inevitable). and why do you think those songs hit? and what does it say about current R&B?

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post-1995, fast R&B songs...with no rappers. [View all] , come on people, Tue Oct-30-12 01:27 PM
 
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Usher, 'You Make Me Wanna'.
Oct 30th 2012
1
isn't that mid-tempo?
Oct 30th 2012
7
      no.
Oct 30th 2012
10
           i don't remember ever dancing to that song in '97.
Oct 30th 2012
13
                okay.
Oct 30th 2012
15
                     "My way" was for sure more of the party/dancin hit
Oct 30th 2012
40
                          okay.
Oct 30th 2012
41
Next, 'Too Close'. & Koffee Brown, 'After Party'.
Oct 30th 2012
2
ahh yes, Kay Gee from Naughty by Nature did provide some of this.
Oct 30th 2012
8
      Wow, I didn't know he did Zhane's but it's the EXACT same feel so
Oct 30th 2012
22
'Bills Bills Bills' & 'Independent Women', Destiny's Child.
Oct 30th 2012
3
good ones.
Oct 30th 2012
9
      'No...' pt 1 was a single for sure.
Oct 30th 2012
12
           that's why i was clear to say "main" version, not "original" version.
Oct 30th 2012
17
           fine.
Oct 30th 2012
21
           Yea it was for sure a single...it wasn't at aaaaall fast though
Oct 30th 2012
29
                it wasn't.
Oct 30th 2012
33
'He Wasn't Man Enough', Toni B.
Oct 30th 2012
4
'Bag Lady', Erykah B.
Oct 30th 2012
5
how many examples will go down this path?
Oct 30th 2012
11
      i dunno. MJB has a few more like that.
Oct 30th 2012
35
           i feel like that was *most* fast R&B songs in the late 90's.
Oct 30th 2012
38
           Mariah made a switch w/that Rainbow album, i think.
Oct 30th 2012
42
           nope album version had lil kim n/m
Oct 30th 2012
53
love like this is sample-based though...
Oct 30th 2012
6
it's definitely sample-based.
Oct 30th 2012
26
Exactly. There's no rapping in it, but based on the sample
Oct 30th 2012
48
'It's Not Right But It's Okay', Whitney.
Oct 30th 2012
14
Ooooooo and "Just one of those days"
Oct 30th 2012
20
'Sittin Up In My Room', 'The Boy Is Mine', Brandy (w/ or w/o Monica)
Oct 30th 2012
16
"No scrubs" while we at it
Oct 30th 2012
23
      Left Eye.
Oct 30th 2012
27
           Bustaaa, Bustaaaaa
Oct 30th 2012
39
           but that one's tricky b/c i dunno if the 'no rap' version was the 'main'
Oct 30th 2012
43
                I only heard the Rap in the video version. Our radio only played the
Oct 30th 2012
44
                     i rarely heard 'Anything' w/Wu-Tang on the radio either.
Oct 30th 2012
45
                          the version with wu-tang was on SWV's remix EP.
Oct 31st 2012
57
                               ah ha!
Oct 31st 2012
58
           on the remix she was added. the og she was not rapping. n/m
Oct 30th 2012
54
                nah i'm pretty sure left eye raps on the album version.
Oct 31st 2012
56
I might be too much of a DJ for this post, but.....although I get what y...
Oct 30th 2012
18
nope, this is good.
Oct 30th 2012
31
      I don't think it's a bad post or premise...I think it leads to other que...
Oct 30th 2012
37
'Step In the Name of Love', R. Kelly
Oct 30th 2012
19
this premise is pretty flimsy
Oct 30th 2012
24
thanks.
Oct 30th 2012
32
'My Boo', Ghost Town DJs
Oct 30th 2012
25
'Single Ladies', Yonce.
Oct 30th 2012
28
Do we count Ghost Town DJ's "My boo?"
Oct 30th 2012
30
yes.
Oct 30th 2012
34
      Yes, we do.
Oct 30th 2012
52
Interesting results...
Oct 30th 2012
36
Amerie - 1 Thing
Oct 30th 2012
46
What happened to Rich Harrison anyway?
Oct 30th 2012
49
      Probably a backup bongo player for BYB or some shit now
Oct 30th 2012
50
           J/K, he did that banger for Marsha last year that sampled Prince
Oct 30th 2012
51
Amerie - 1 Thing
Oct 30th 2012
47
haven't read ALL responses so sorry for any duplicates...
Oct 31st 2012
55
Oh yea 112 Dance with me
Oct 31st 2012
59
"Cloud 9" - Donnie
Oct 31st 2012
60
"Soldier" - Erykah Badu
Oct 31st 2012
61
"Love After War" - Robin Thicke
Oct 31st 2012
62
"What About Us" - Brandy
Oct 31st 2012
63
"So In Love" - Jill Scott featuring Anthony Hamilton
Oct 31st 2012
64
"Request Line" - Zhane
Oct 31st 2012
65
"Can't Take My Eyes Off You" - Lauryn Hill
Oct 31st 2012
66
"Give It To Me Right" - Melanie Fiona
Oct 31st 2012
67
"Dance Tonight" - Lucy Pearl
Nov 04th 2012
68
Keyshia Cole - Last Night...The Dream - Fast Car
Nov 04th 2012
69
RE: Keyshia Cole - Last Night...The Dream - Fast Car
Nov 05th 2012
70
      Goapele - Love Me Right
Nov 05th 2012
71
this post makes me miss pre-1995 R&B
Nov 06th 2012
72

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