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Jakob Hellberg
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39. "Does modern non-sampling rap come from inside Hip-Hop though?"
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You could make a case for Timbaland and Neptunes and maybe even the Cash Money and Swizz Beats-sounds being a modern-as opposed to 80's (think Mantronix)-foundation for that but at least Timbaland sounded very inspired by "EDM" and many of the newer producers people dig sound like they-intentionally or not-are inspired more by 90's "IDM" than Hip-Hop.

BTW, I have a theory that one of the reasons electronic dance music has come to stay this time in the US is because unlike the attempt of making electronica the new cutting-edge thing in the 90's ("Electronica is the new punk/rock/whatever") it has entered the US scene through the *mainstream*/pop-scene with the producers I mentioned above setting the stage for the sound and then entering the underground styles from "above" rather than the opposite which is less organic and more aimed at "cool" and "eclectic" music-fans building the foundation. In the 90's, that pretty much meant guitar-centered indie-rock fans in the US for whom it was nothing but a temporary diversion...

  

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Dear Hip-Hop: You took yourself way to seriously... [View all] , imcvspl, Wed Apr-18-12 09:17 PM
 
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if i was hip-hop i'd take a restraining order out on you
Apr 18th 2012
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I mean... need I say more than ^^^^
Apr 18th 2012
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      Music/Musician you take yourself too seriously
Apr 18th 2012
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           So what you're saying is you don't take music seriously... got it!!!
Apr 18th 2012
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                from you
Apr 18th 2012
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                me or my critiques?
Apr 18th 2012
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                music is a crucial part of my life
Apr 18th 2012
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                     holup holup... either speak for you or speak for hip-hop
Apr 18th 2012
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                     read the post again as if its literally hiphop speaking
Apr 18th 2012
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                          RE: read the post again as if its literally hiphop speaking
Apr 18th 2012
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                               hip hop is fine man
Apr 18th 2012
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                                    what exactly are you responding to with that?
Apr 18th 2012
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                                         your laundry list of hip hops failures
Apr 18th 2012
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                                              the laundry list in the OP is actually its successes
Apr 18th 2012
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                                                   im officially in the twilight zone
Apr 18th 2012
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                                                        that's as far as you made it isn't it
Apr 18th 2012
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                                                             i read the whole thing before i posted
Apr 18th 2012
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                     HOW DO YOU DIVORCE YOUR PARENT?
Apr 18th 2012
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                          EVERYONE "divorces" their parents eventually
Apr 18th 2012
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                               NERLTPUTPL
Apr 18th 2012
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                                    that's y divorce was in quotes it's just the cycle
Apr 18th 2012
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                                         question
Apr 18th 2012
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                                              of course there are valid points
Apr 18th 2012
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                                                   it's easy when you're not exposing the invalid ones
Apr 18th 2012
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                                                        if ur entire premise is flawed what's the point?
Apr 18th 2012
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                                                             so you contend that hip-hop is selfless
Apr 18th 2012
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                                                                  it often is, certainly can be...
Apr 18th 2012
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                                                                       that's that real shit right?
Apr 18th 2012
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                                                                            i shoulda stopped at reply #3
Apr 19th 2012
42
RE: Dear Hip-Hop: You took yourself way to seriously...
Apr 18th 2012
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Apr 18th 2012
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      the proper response to this is
Apr 18th 2012
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hip hop never affected music outside hip hop in any positive way
Apr 19th 2012
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Interesting question here.....
Apr 19th 2012
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      vijay iyer, robert glasper, jose james et al
Apr 19th 2012
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      I thought about that when I heard Glasper's 'Afro Blue' w/Badu
Apr 19th 2012
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      It obviously inspired ''metal''...
Apr 19th 2012
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           i dont know if hip hops rhythmic sensibilities had a good influence
Apr 19th 2012
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Great read.
Apr 19th 2012
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this is a good post. good ideas here. philpot made it gay tho.
Apr 19th 2012
40
gay tho?
Apr 19th 2012
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lol. stop. hip hop is in an a great place right now
Apr 19th 2012
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yeah this thing seems to have a pretty specific lane
Apr 20th 2012
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Brilliant...it's funny because earlier today I was thinking about
Apr 20th 2012
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I'm curious...
Apr 21st 2012
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this is a tremendous post by the way
Apr 22nd 2012
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up for Sunday
Apr 22nd 2012
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