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142. "PopMatters 8/10 (personal swipe, wish we had 8.5s)"
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Sun Dec-04-11 07:13 PM by Nodima

  

          

I left a note for the editors that if they reached a behind the scenes consensus I'm more than fine with an 8 so we'll see what they do. I've given it dozen listens but I had to hit deadline so, if this disappoints some people I get it. This won't get pub'd til later this week but what the hell. also hasn't been scanned for editing since that ain't my side of the bargain. hopefully mine is one of the lowest scores this album receives if it stays an 8.


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undun is a deceptively tough nut to crack. On its surface, undun feels like another step in the mature, indie-oriented direction the Legendary Roots Crew set their sights on with last year's How I Got Over. The production is full of pianos, somewhat abstract Radiohead-like interludes and soul hooks from longtime associates Dice Raw and Bilal. Aside from a few tracks it's a notably subdued album, particularly during its opening and closing sections. But when you start to approach on its intended level, as a story album about a deceased 25-year old Philadelphia man named Redford Stephens (a name that alludes to the band's affection for Sufjan Steven's Michigan album), things start to get a little muddled. For starters, liner notes were eschewed in favor of interviews and an iPad app. The app - which I admit not being privy to due to a lack of the proper technology (it also works on iPhones and iPod Touches, neither of which were in my possession over the weekend) - contains a series of photos, music videos and interviews that act as a biography of sorts for Redford. That content acts as a bridge for the listener between the ideas the band threw around in the studio and what led up to their decision to tell this story, sort of like featurettes that might accompany a DVD to better explain side plots and background narrative. Without this information, undun becomes a uniquely challenging release thanks to the band's decision to tell Redford's story in reverse, from death to the beginning of his ending.

Prince Paul's A Prince Among Thieves started with the death of it's main character Tariq, but followed with a chronological story of how he arrived there. The Roots have decided to Memento the experience, doing everything backward. They've also stipulated that every voice on the record is inside Redford's head, delivering different interpretations of the events and ideas leading to his death much as a person's brain plays against itself. But what's really interesting, to me, is what happens when you play the album itself backwards, essentially forcing the story to play chronologically. In both formats, the album begins with the protagonist asleep, on one end a physical death ("Redford Suite") and on the other metaphorical ("Dun"). In either format, "Lighthouse" and "The OtherSide" act as guiding lights for the character; in reverse, "Lighthouse" finds Redford adrift in the ocean of urbanity, anticipating his demise with "The OtherSide" revealing his welcoming attitude towards death (a theme throughout the record). If heard according to the tracklist, the inversion of these concepts makes equal sense, with Redford wondering what the worth of life is before finding himself facing an appraisal soon after. Many of the songs work this way, playing duel roles depending on what order you choose to experience them, and it makes for a really interesting album. The best expression of this duality is in the "Redford Suite", which can be heard as either: A) Redford's soul leaving his body and ascending / descending (the 3rd and 4th movements seemingly leave this up to the listener to decide) to its destined spiritual resting place or B) the tumultuous nature of Redford's dreams, from which he awakens to the daily stress of having two brothers, one dead and one incarcerated who anticipates Redford's joining him soon.

Conceptually, this album is full of exciting ideas musically and lyrically even if its core isn't far removed from Masta Ace's seminal A Long Hot Summer, if at all. But in can also be, as I mentioned before, a tough nut to crack. Maybe tougher than it deserves to be. Because the songs are often more thematic than structural, it's hard to actually coalesce with the Roots' train of thought and see undun as any kind of storyline. The skeleton is there but over more than a dozen listens I have to admit I feel like I get the same experience either way I listen to the album. If it weren't for ?uestlove's outline on the okayplayer forum or the press coverage emphasizing its novella nature, it would be easy to hear undun as simply another Roots album. Progressive in sound as all Roots albums are, but just another album nonetheless. And in that sense undun is in some ways a step back from How I Got Over, as Dice Raw is given even more hook duty here and either provides just enough chutzpah to see the song through ("Lighthouse", "Tip the Scale") or nearly butchers it ("One Time"). The hooks in general are a bit of a struggle to get through, as "I Remember" isn't much better with its anonymous female vocal echoing dully many times throughout the brief three-minute track where a Gary Porn verse or more of ?uest and Khari Mateen's quite beautiful instrumental could have been. Casting every artist on the album as Redford Stephens also lends to its immediate inaccessibility as a concept, being that their voices sound so different and the subject matter so interchangeable. Especially with the brief, Illmatic-matching runtime, undun sprints through its motions so quickly that it could easily be interpreted as an EP addendum to How I Got Over by those unwilling to put in the time necessary to connect all of Redford's various dots through the lyrics and iPad app.

To undun's sizable credit, however, these gripes have a comforting ability to sink into the greater whole of the album. My personal favorite way to experience this album is as a playlist, with the album first played in reverse and then immediately ran back as the album proper. Redford is dreaming, awakens, makes his terrible life decision, dies and then has his final moments flash before his eyes, played back in reverse order ala Nas' "Rewind". I'm not sure if the Roots intended the album to be playable in this fashion but I guarantee that it most certainly is, and I'm equally certain that this is a first in hip-hop if not album making in general. Despite its various faults undun is righteously solid, no doubt indebted to the atmospheric work of Sufjan Stevens and previous collaborators like Dirty Projectors and Jim James while maintaining that undeniable Roots edge that can only come from the drumkit of Ahmir Thompson, the vocal chords of Tariq Trotter and the more than capable limbs of their six cohorts. Particularly striking for ?uest is his free jazz duet with D.D. Jackson on piano, "Will to Power", a move that I'm not sure ?uest would have felt free to explore just a few years ago. The Roots certainly aren't the band that made Illadelph Halflife, Things Fall Apart or even Game Theory anymore, but it's immeasurably refreshing to know that they don't have to be. Their sampling of Radiohead on Game Theory has led to them being championed as a sort of hip-hop parallel to the group in the years since, but it's undun that truly signals the Roots are every bit as capable of maturing with grace, pride and praise-worthy work as those consistently unpredictable rockers from Oxfordshire.



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The Roots - Undun reviews [View all] , handle, Wed Nov-16-11 12:39 AM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
man those snippets have me drooling!
Nov 16th 2011
1
^^This
Nov 21st 2011
6
awesome
Nov 16th 2011
2
My impressions
Nov 16th 2011
3
Eddie "STATS" 10 Out of 10: Track By Track Preview
Nov 16th 2011
4
If you find any more reviews post em here
Nov 20th 2011
5
Press: ?uestlove on the Huffinton post
Nov 21st 2011
7
Like on on-going PHD thesis going no where.
Nov 21st 2011
8
LittleX: like a hose that is forever huffed.
Nov 22nd 2011
9
sounds like a cunninlynguists album n/m
Nov 22nd 2011
10
yeah, it does sound like a dope album
Nov 24th 2011
11
LOL
Nov 26th 2011
16
I'm saying like that's a bad thing lol
Nov 29th 2011
24
      i didn't mean it in a bad way at all.
Nov 29th 2011
56
           oh. okay
Dec 02nd 2011
121
           which ones better?
Dec 07th 2011
190
yeah..it's epically great.
Dec 20th 2011
238
The Roots played a snippet Kool On on Jimmy Fallon
Nov 24th 2011
12
prolly the only time they'll do it live ...
Dec 08th 2011
196
These ?uest interviews are like the liner notes,,new interview
Nov 25th 2011
13
definitely a dope read on this one!
Nov 25th 2011
14
I didn't even know there was a new album.
Nov 25th 2011
15
Ny Daily news review
Nov 26th 2011
17
Nov 28th 2011
18
Just finished listening... pretty blown away
Nov 28th 2011
19
haven't heard the stream
Nov 29th 2011
20
oh, yeah?
Nov 29th 2011
21
I haven't heard a single negative thing said about the album
Nov 29th 2011
22
Same here, be back later with thoughts n/m
Nov 29th 2011
23
      where are y'all hearing it?
Nov 29th 2011
25
           A low quality rip of a stream was ripped
Nov 29th 2011
26
           how can i hear this?
Nov 29th 2011
27
           I streamed it n/m
Nov 29th 2011
31
Everything I've Heard So Far (Most of It)
Nov 29th 2011
28
the album sounds great.
Nov 29th 2011
29
RE: The Roots - Undun reviews
Nov 29th 2011
30
Shit...
Dec 01st 2011
95
album is streaming, in full, at NPR (link)
Nov 29th 2011
32
has anyone seen a vinyl pre-order?
Nov 29th 2011
33
goddammit at these fuckin choruses
Nov 29th 2011
34
I disagree
Nov 29th 2011
35
good, cause i like make my!
Nov 29th 2011
37
nah, i i don't see any issues with the choruses.
Nov 29th 2011
36
good it gets better
Nov 29th 2011
38
only one bad to me is One Time. a struggle chorus if i ever heard one.
Nov 29th 2011
40
I liked that
Nov 29th 2011
41
      no problems with the content - it's just horribly delivered.
Nov 29th 2011
44
I Think Dice Did A Great Job On The Hooks
Nov 29th 2011
45
I agree Dice did great on the hooks
Nov 29th 2011
57
they aren't great but
Nov 30th 2011
85
Co-Sign
Dec 01st 2011
106
these choruses
Dec 06th 2011
165
i like them...it brings balance
Dec 07th 2011
184
I felt this way at first but after letting the album soak in I hear them...
Dec 12th 2011
225
i wish tip the scale was available as an mp3
Nov 29th 2011
39
are you kidding me? only a few tracks in
Nov 29th 2011
42
RE: The Roots - Undun reviews
Nov 29th 2011
43
It's Great
Nov 29th 2011
46
What the fuck is this? Kool On ?
Nov 29th 2011
47
Porn was a beast on HIGO
Nov 29th 2011
48
      that's why i'm scratching my head.
Nov 29th 2011
49
      RE: Porn was a beast on HIGO
Nov 29th 2011
50
           fuck me, forgot this is his third
Nov 30th 2011
83
Phenomenal.
Nov 29th 2011
51
the end of tip the scale is beautiful.
Nov 29th 2011
52
I kind of agree
Nov 29th 2011
55
I'm lovin Lighthouse
Nov 29th 2011
53
Kool On is probably my fav though
Dec 03rd 2011
134
      Kool on and Lighthouse of my favorite songs of the year really.
Dec 20th 2011
239
off my first few listens, im not into this at all
Nov 29th 2011
54
I just finished listening to the album, it gave me a "Water" type feel
Nov 29th 2011
58
RE: I just finished listening to the album, it gave me a "Water" type fe...
Dec 01st 2011
102
      I think you may be right
Dec 01st 2011
109
Listened to it front to back 4 times so far today. Lovin it!!!
Nov 29th 2011
59
To be honest, on first spin, parts I didn't really dig. But it grows on...
Nov 30th 2011
60
      same here.
Nov 30th 2011
61
           14 to 1.
Nov 30th 2011
62
           thanks.
Nov 30th 2011
63
           I'm hoping the cliff notes for the life sequence is ...
Nov 30th 2011
64
                i gave them on this very site.
Nov 30th 2011
65
                cliff notes from 15
Nov 30th 2011
75
                     15 - Did you consider letting people figure it out for themselves
Nov 30th 2011
77
                     I See What You Mean But
Nov 30th 2011
78
                     Huh?
Dec 01st 2011
111
                     boom n/m
Dec 02nd 2011
113
                          no, it's me that misread bentagain.
Dec 02nd 2011
115
                               It was the fist comparison that came to mind
Dec 02nd 2011
117
                     RE: 15 - Did you consider letting people figure it out for themselves
Dec 19th 2011
237
                     I feel like a fool ...
Nov 30th 2011
82
Initial impressions: Solid
Nov 30th 2011
66
Felt effortless
Nov 30th 2011
67
agree with all of this
Nov 30th 2011
84
Also surprised that some of the songs work outside of the context
Dec 06th 2011
159
wow...
Nov 30th 2011
68
RE: The Roots - Undun reviews
Nov 30th 2011
69
think it was one track and they had to
Nov 30th 2011
72
RE: The Roots - Undun reviews
Nov 30th 2011
74
listen to the stream....
Nov 30th 2011
70
Glide Magazine @@@@1/2
Nov 30th 2011
71
Still waiting for Tuesday but
Nov 30th 2011
73
I Tried To Hold Out But I Gave In
Nov 30th 2011
76
RE: The Roots - Undun reviews
Nov 30th 2011
79
So far, so good
Nov 30th 2011
80
Love The Album, The Ambition, The Theme
Nov 30th 2011
81
RE: Love The Album, The Ambition, The Theme
Dec 04th 2011
135
incredible album. grown man hip hop. fav track is...
Nov 30th 2011
86
?uestlove on Soundcheck podcast
Nov 30th 2011
87
love it, of course.
Nov 30th 2011
88
it's simply a different album
Nov 30th 2011
89
The Other Side.......
Nov 30th 2011
90
Bilal Man
Dec 01st 2011
101
wow bilal wow
Dec 03rd 2011
128
Bilal and them organs. favorite track
Dec 06th 2011
170
iPhone and iPad app out NOW
Nov 30th 2011
91
the only time I ever wished I had apple products ...
Nov 30th 2011
92
Greg P.O.R.N.......is a problem!
Dec 01st 2011
93
It's really too bad OKP records didn't really take off...
Dec 01st 2011
94
"Kool On" and "Stomp" are ridiculous.
Dec 01st 2011
96
Entertainment Weekly review (A-)
Dec 01st 2011
97
The Independent uk review (Positive)
Dec 01st 2011
98
To 15 and the whole crew.....Thank You
Dec 01st 2011
99
BBC review (Positive)
Dec 01st 2011
100
I REALLY like Dice and PORN on this
Dec 01st 2011
103
lol
Dec 01st 2011
104
third verse!!!
Dec 01st 2011
105
Pithcfork interview
Dec 01st 2011
107
this is brilliant guys...
Dec 01st 2011
108
This shit resonates.
Dec 01st 2011
110
this album is beautiful man.
Dec 02nd 2011
112
DICE & G PORN are dope on this.
Dec 04th 2011
136
The Guardian (UK): 3 out of 5 stars (link)
Dec 02nd 2011
114
I want to write for the Guardian and EW
Dec 02nd 2011
118
NPR First Listen (LINK) / nom nom nom can't wait bart scott
Dec 02nd 2011
116
why is Just Blaze getting credit for Stomp?
Dec 03rd 2011
129
Chicago Tribune review (4 of 4 stars)
Dec 02nd 2011
119
hey, i'm credited on "make my!"
Dec 02nd 2011
120
excellent
Dec 02nd 2011
122
NSU Review
Dec 02nd 2011
123
The Globe and Mail review (Canada) - 3.5 of 4 stars
Dec 02nd 2011
124
Thee Business
Dec 03rd 2011
125
hows this compare to prince paul Prince Among thieves or sticky's
Dec 03rd 2011
126
Review: my original uncut review of undun
Dec 03rd 2011
127
THS ALBUM IS FUCKING AMAZING
Dec 03rd 2011
130
I really dig "I Remember" & "Tip The Scale".
Dec 03rd 2011
131
woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!
Dec 03rd 2011
132
Hold up though, why this Illmatic time length?
Dec 03rd 2011
133
short album, easier to digest as a fan
Dec 05th 2011
152
      Songs in the key of life disagrees with you
Dec 06th 2011
158
           what an inane response.
Dec 14th 2011
227
Redford sounds like some Radiohead
Dec 04th 2011
137
it's a portion of sufjan steven's song of the same name
Dec 04th 2011
138
I'm thinking I might be liking this album more backwards
Dec 04th 2011
139
thoughts....
Dec 04th 2011
140
So no skits huh??
Dec 04th 2011
141
Philadelphia Examiner: * * * 1/2
Dec 04th 2011
143
Soul Culture (UK): 4 1/2 out of 5
Dec 05th 2011
144
HipHopDX: 5 out of 5
Dec 05th 2011
145
dice's hooks are the low for me
Dec 05th 2011
146
which ones?
Dec 05th 2011
147
the hook on One Time nearly ruins the song for me
Dec 05th 2011
148
one time is okay, but it does sound off
Dec 05th 2011
150
I've had that song on repeat today
Dec 08th 2011
194
sound like he recorded that in the shower, gargling water.
Dec 09th 2011
214
still not a fan of "make my"
Dec 05th 2011
149
see, i love make my
Dec 05th 2011
151
basically all of them
Dec 05th 2011
154
shit he killed these hooks come a long way form Rising Down
Dec 07th 2011
185
      hooks are better, he needs to not sing them
Dec 08th 2011
205
Front-Free.com: positive review
Dec 05th 2011
153
The Other Side is a classic Roots track
Dec 06th 2011
155
Pitchfork Media: 7.3/10
Dec 06th 2011
156
Out of curiosity
Dec 06th 2011
160
      RE: Out of curiosity
Dec 06th 2011
162
           those albums are suited for the pitch4ork crowd too
Dec 06th 2011
164
Dec 06th 2011
157
1st (Black) Thoughts
Dec 06th 2011
161
re: Dice's choruses
Dec 06th 2011
163
yeah I recently posted about this above.
Dec 06th 2011
175
Los Angeles Times Undun Review 3.5 stars (out of 4)
Dec 06th 2011
166
Rolling Stone 3.5
Dec 06th 2011
167
when is the last time RS rated a hip hop album above 3.5?
Dec 06th 2011
174
      really?
Dec 06th 2011
176
AllHipHop.com: 8.5 out of 10
Dec 06th 2011
168
Spin 7/10 (link)
Dec 06th 2011
169
i think the notion that Redford lacks individuality is valid
Dec 06th 2011
172
Heavy Album....
Dec 06th 2011
171
Paste magazine = 8.4
Dec 06th 2011
173
So is that Mercedes on "I Remember" ?
Dec 06th 2011
177
Word! She kinda reminded me of Solange tho.
Dec 07th 2011
186
The "Make My" breakdown reminds me a lot
Dec 06th 2011
178
First spin...Stomp!
Dec 06th 2011
179
Iheartdilla review
Dec 07th 2011
180
Holy shit. This album is a masterpiece. Wow.
Dec 07th 2011
181
define masterpiece
Dec 07th 2011
187
The A.V. Club review (A)
Dec 07th 2011
182
All Music review - (4.5 of 5 stars)
Dec 07th 2011
183
this is a great fucking album
Dec 07th 2011
188
one more side note
Dec 07th 2011
189
same thought I've been having all day
Dec 08th 2011
191
hard to argue with that...
Dec 08th 2011
192
I like the previous 3 albums quite a bit.
Dec 08th 2011
193
people in Redford's life as opposed to playing him from different angles
Dec 08th 2011
197
      I thought ?uest said on here that
Dec 08th 2011
203
      different personalities of Redford
Dec 09th 2011
213
           actually it was confirmed that they're all Red
Dec 09th 2011
216
      Quest already said its all Redford though
Dec 08th 2011
208
this is a great album, make my, kool on & tip the scale and the
Dec 08th 2011
195
Straight.com - Vancuver
Dec 08th 2011
198
comments like this really irk me...
Dec 08th 2011
199
GREAT album, gets better with each listen, and BANGS in the car.
Dec 08th 2011
200
a complete live version of this album would kill
Dec 08th 2011
201
^^^there it is
Dec 08th 2011
204
For as important as the lyrics are for this, why aren't they in the book...
Dec 08th 2011
202
RE: Dice's hooks
Dec 08th 2011
206
this would be a copout and an excuse
Dec 08th 2011
209
      jesus, let it go.
Dec 09th 2011
210
           heaven forbid we discuss something on a discussion board
Dec 09th 2011
212
                harping endlessly on about something makes for wonderful discussion.
Dec 09th 2011
220
'Kool On' & 'Lighthouse' are my favorites
Dec 08th 2011
207
IGN
Dec 09th 2011
211
40+min of blank space, i wish the album played chronologically.
Dec 09th 2011
215
Even if it's not meant to be heard that way? Interesting
Dec 09th 2011
218
yeah.
Dec 14th 2011
229
yea this was the basis of my PopMatters review
Dec 10th 2011
222
      ><
Dec 14th 2011
230
This could be their Berlin (Lou Reed)
Dec 09th 2011
217
Look at OKC review
Dec 09th 2011
219
would have been cool to let Thought sing a hook or 2 IMO
Dec 09th 2011
221
um, that's the jazzyfatnastees on I Remember
Dec 11th 2011
223
      fair enough but I think the hook could use more
Dec 18th 2011
236
Lighthouse is amazing
Dec 12th 2011
224
100 Albums, 100 Weeks: A/A-
Dec 13th 2011
226
Dice Raw sounds great.
Dec 14th 2011
228
WBEZ review - 3.5 out of 5
Dec 16th 2011
231
out of 4.
Dec 16th 2011
233
News-mail.AU 4.5 out of 5
Dec 16th 2011
232
NPR- Weekend Edition (story + 10 audio minute review)
Dec 18th 2011
234
Relevant Magazine Review
Dec 18th 2011
235
late, but got dang @ 'Lighthouse'.
Dec 22nd 2011
240
Rap Reviews
Dec 23rd 2011
241
debuts at #17 on billboard hot 200. 2nd week, falls to #70
Dec 23rd 2011
242
seriously... this might be the most satisfying Roots album in years.
Dec 23rd 2011
243
The Smoking Section
Dec 27th 2011
244
MetaCritic score: 88/100
Dec 29th 2011
245

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