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topic #2941166
Subject: "Take a breath. It's fucking Saigon"
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mrshow
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Fri Aug-14-15 01:44 AM
16. "Take a breath. It's fucking Saigon"
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Has a rapper ever had more support/hype and failed than Saigon?
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Thu Aug-13-15 05:57 PM
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failed?
dula dibiasi
Aug 13th 2015
1
He was set up for stardom and he's not a star
icecold21
Aug 13th 2015
2
LOL. You're wrong, take your L
Orbit_Established
Aug 14th 2015
12
yup. i listened to warning shots the other day
guru0509
Aug 14th 2015
11
they tried so hard to make him happen
BrooklynWHAT
Aug 13th 2015
3
Unlike Kid Cudi, who blew us away with his gifts
Orbit_Established
Aug 14th 2015
13
obviously some inside business shit...
realityrap
Aug 13th 2015
4
I feel like at first
Anonymous
Aug 13th 2015
5
RE: Has a rapper ever had more support/hype and failed than Saigon?
double 0
Aug 13th 2015
6
the afros?
howardlloyd
Aug 13th 2015
7
Jay Electeonica
Garhart Poppwell
Aug 13th 2015
8
Talk about wasted talent.
The Wordsmith
Aug 13th 2015
9
I dunno how this wasn't the first reply.
Hitokiri
Aug 14th 2015
18
can't fail if you don't try!
Madvillain 626
Aug 14th 2015
19
somehow he's the first person in history to do just that
Garhart Poppwell
Aug 14th 2015
21
^^
agentzero
Aug 17th 2015
52
he may not have managed to craft any pop/club/mainstream appealing songs
amplifya7
Aug 13th 2015
10
LOL. What commercial support did he have?
Orbit_Established
Aug 14th 2015
14
Mark Ronson signed him initially
mrshow
Aug 14th 2015
17
Right, so we agree. He's no Iggy Azalea.
Orbit_Established
Aug 14th 2015
22
He was on Entourage
Madvillain 626
Aug 14th 2015
20
LOL. So? He's no Kreayshawn
Orbit_Established
Aug 14th 2015
23
bad example. she sold like 40 CDs.
Nodima
Aug 15th 2015
35
Exactly my point. She's a real failure. He's not.
Orbit_Established
Aug 15th 2015
36
He had commercial support (swipe)
icecold21
Aug 19th 2015
59
Bwahaha. You just proved my point
Orbit_Established
Aug 21st 2015
64
you said he no commercial support
icecold21
Aug 21st 2015
67
does Papoose count?
beatnik
Aug 14th 2015
15
Jay Elec is the correct answer
dalecooper
Aug 14th 2015
24
I Still Don't Know What Y'all See In Jay Electronica
Dj Joey Joe
Aug 14th 2015
26
Nah, I didn't get it for years, but he's really good
Orbit_Established
Aug 15th 2015
38
I Was Never Wrapped Up In His Hype
Dj Joey Joe
Aug 14th 2015
25
Saigon "failed" because of industry politics
Stadium Status
Aug 14th 2015
27
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
realityrap
Aug 15th 2015
43
Canibus
John Forte
Aug 14th 2015
28
it kind of made sense once i saw him on love and hiphop NY
southphillyman
Aug 14th 2015
29
It's definitely one of the more head scratching cases in hip hop
Amritsar
Aug 14th 2015
30
How about Joe Budden, Lupe Fiasco, Memphis Bleek (lol)
kwez
Aug 14th 2015
31
Yeah Memphis is a good answer
Anonymous
Aug 15th 2015
39
RE: Yeah Memphis is a good answer
double 0
Aug 15th 2015
40
Lupe Fiasco has not failed
justin_scott
Aug 15th 2015
41
Bleek had 4 consecutive Gold albums.
atruhead
Aug 16th 2015
49
Joe Budden - yes. Lupe - no. Memphis Bleek - what were the expectations?
Dr Claw
Aug 17th 2015
54
Commercial Wise: Ras Kass
jeanlouis61
Aug 15th 2015
32
Was never given a commercial push, so no
Orbit_Established
Aug 15th 2015
37
he was on priority records
jeanlouis61
Aug 15th 2015
42
Stop it. Ras Kass was never, ever pushed to be a commercial star.
Orbit_Established
Aug 15th 2015
48
That's not entirely true.
Remedial
Aug 19th 2015
57
You doing a lot of explaining and plea copping
Orbit_Established
Aug 21st 2015
66
"Ghetto Fabulous" was a huge look. But to be fair, he didn't get a "pus...
micMajestic
Aug 17th 2015
55
A million dollar shot would have been...
Remedial
Aug 19th 2015
58
No. All that was over when that single flopped. Do u remember the vid f...
micMajestic
Aug 19th 2015
60
I'm talking about leading up to the release of the single...
Remedial
Aug 20th 2015
62
He, nor Papoose, could make an effective club/"for the ladies" record
self_ish
Aug 15th 2015
33
I think you covered it. All his catchy songs were really gritty
micMajestic
Aug 15th 2015
47
Chingy seems more like it. Saigon's a rebel to the industry
fatboybrandon
Aug 15th 2015
34
How are y'all saying Jay Elec failed?
13Rose
Aug 15th 2015
44
You're really asking why a music forum isn't taking into account
c71
Aug 15th 2015
45
His posessions are directly tied to his music and performing
13Rose
Aug 19th 2015
61
Jamarcus Russell got a huge signing bonus. He is a failure as an NFL QB...
cgonz00cc
Aug 16th 2015
50
LOL @ that analogy
Orbit_Established
Aug 17th 2015
53
Great analogy.
Remedial
Aug 19th 2015
56
His stage name is Saigon. Need we say more?
Yadgyu
Aug 15th 2015
46
lmao
SP1200
Aug 22nd 2015
68
Canibus
gatsbythegreat
Aug 16th 2015
51
See now if Jay Elec did this...failure
13Rose
Aug 21st 2015
63
man, yall gotta at least give him "Rip the Jacker"...
Dstl1
Aug 27th 2015
72
Thanks to this dumbass post, I bumped 'Greatest Story'
Orbit_Established
Aug 21st 2015
65
underrated, IMO.
Nodima
Aug 22nd 2015
69
Canibus is the only rapper I can think of.
Shaun Tha Don
Aug 26th 2015
70
RE: Has a rapper ever had more support/hype and failed than Saigon?
melanon
Aug 26th 2015
71
that's an album that i've yet to check out.
MISTA MONOTONE
Aug 28th 2015
73
RE: that's an album that i've yet to check out.
Ishwip
Aug 28th 2015
75
RE: Has a rapper ever had more support/hype and failed than Saigon?
Holla At Ya Self
Aug 28th 2015
74
RE: Has a rapper ever had more support/hype and failed than Saigon?
melanon
Aug 29th 2015
77
Dude was a complete letdown & it wasn't just label jerkin' either.
cidolfas
Aug 29th 2015
76
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