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""Ol' Dirty Bastard vehemently denied his middle-class upbringing""
Tue Jun-09-15 06:50 AM by IslaSoul

  

          

Following excerpt is from "It's Bigger Than Hip Hop: The Rise of the Post-Hip-Hop Generation" (M.K. Asante, Jr.)


"The late Russel Tyrone Jones-also known as Joe Bananas, Dirt Mcgirt, Dirt Dog, Ason Unique, Big Baby Jesus, Osirus and most commonly Ol' Dirty Bastard-died frontin'. Much like my brother, ODB spent his adult life dancing between jail, welfare, and stints with rap success. And also like my brother, ODB vehemently denied his middle-class upbringing, and instead promoted a poverty-stricken, dangerous one (as if being Black wasn't enough). In "Caught Up," he raps:

I'm a ghetto n***a dog so I get it how I live
Got Money, lock 'em off, f***ers still I got drama
Got two strike dog and five baby mamas.

"I was furious," said William Jones, ODB's father. "You know, that story about him being raised in the Fort Greene projects on welfare until he was a child of thirteen was a total lie," he added.
When Jones talked to his wife about their son's bogus claims of ghettoship, her response was simple: "he did it for publicity." Of course he did. ODB understood that boasting racist and classist stereotypes about Blacks would reaffirm them in the minds of a largely white consumer market. This would explain the correlation between ODB's run-ins with the law and simultaneous spikes in record sales.

ODB's story reminds us that most artists feel that in order to "make it," they need to portray a stereotypical image that is marketable to white America. As a result, artists like ODB downplay their middle-class origins and artists who are from the ghetto avoid portraying and calling out the savage injustices that created their condition."

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"Ol' Dirty Bastard vehemently denied his middle-class upbringing" [View all] , IslaSoul, Tue Jun-09-15 06:44 AM
 
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...it's also about selling that image to Black consumers.
Jun 09th 2015
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agreed
Jun 09th 2015
3
yup...this probably played a bigger role in his situation...
Jun 11th 2015
37
All rappers are actors
Jun 09th 2015
2
Not all rappers are, there are many artists who genuinely try
Jun 09th 2015
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RE: "Ol' Dirty Bastard vehemently denied his middle-class upbringing"
Jun 09th 2015
4
That & the "rags to riches" narrative is much more compelling
Jun 09th 2015
5
Wait, so was he even a bastard?
Jun 09th 2015
7
RE: Wait, so was he even a bastard? Yes
Jun 09th 2015
10
I bet that muhfucka showered too
Jun 09th 2015
11
that punk wasn't even 40 when he died "OL" my ass.!
Jun 09th 2015
13
this girl from my neighborhood said he used...........
Jun 11th 2015
34
      that was only for his neck
Jun 11th 2015
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           lmao
Jun 11th 2015
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           Yoooo
Jun 11th 2015
44
I just Tweeted about this, and....
Jun 09th 2015
*duplicate*
Jun 09th 2015
8
Yo, Richard Attenborough never made a dinosaur!?
Jun 09th 2015
9
nah, its pretty fucked up when a Black man from a good home lies about i...
Jun 09th 2015
12
Agreed
Jun 09th 2015
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I've been around Ason's people
Jun 09th 2015
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dirty recognize dirty.
Jun 09th 2015
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I been around his brother Will Jones, drummer for Funkface, a NYC
Jun 09th 2015
17
did he seem like a middle class type of guy?
Jun 09th 2015
19
uh, he is really well spoken. Could have been on radio or TV
Jun 09th 2015
20
      yeah i mean i'm not crapping on being poor
Jun 09th 2015
21
Ahhh you know Ram?
Jun 09th 2015
24
      Check out the band Funkface - the band Ramsey drums with
Jun 10th 2015
28
ayo I got a question about a Dumhi verse..
Jun 09th 2015
18
      must have been that dilla mixtape
Jun 09th 2015
22
           still... I think you might be right on both points
Jun 09th 2015
25
This excerpt is not only a criticism of ODB dumbing down
Jun 09th 2015
23
Brooklyn Zoological Gardens?
Jun 09th 2015
26
I'm pretty sure that "Vehemently" was his middle name, no?
Jun 09th 2015
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So... did he NOT have 5 baby mommas?
Jun 10th 2015
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right??
Jun 10th 2015
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Raw hide
Jun 10th 2015
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      I gotta ask the fam
Jun 10th 2015
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      RE: Raw hide..... In the same song, he also said...
Jun 11th 2015
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RE: "Ol' Dirty Bastard vehemently denied his middle-class upbringing"
Jun 11th 2015
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fraudulent? Man foh. You ain't gotta like him but that shit is way out...
Jun 11th 2015
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      i know right??
Jun 11th 2015
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Does it really matter?
Jun 11th 2015
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RE: Does it really matter?
Jun 11th 2015
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1WFA0liN1o&t=3m37s
Jun 11th 2015
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If his father was furious, why wait till after ODB is dead to bring it u...
Jun 11th 2015
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It's in the book and I don't think it's meant being disrespectful
Jun 11th 2015
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i been told y'all this since 1998
Jun 11th 2015
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It took me a while to understand why Suburban White kids loved
Jun 11th 2015
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Actually...
Jun 11th 2015
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RE: i been told y'all this since 1998
Jun 12th 2015
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