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Jon
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12. "bebop has a rep as all brain and not danceable but"
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Fri Feb-27-15 12:19 PM by Jon

          

Every time I dive into my fairly large Dizzy collection, I want to move. Yeah I'm definitely cerebrally stimulated, but I'm also emotionally stirred and my body gets into it. Sure, it might not lend itself to a particular easily established set of dance steps, but I always found it ironic that Dizzy was simultaneously criticized for co-founding an "undanceable" jazz while also being shorted for being too much of a dancer for serious jazz heads lol.

I know very very very little theory, I'm familiar with a wide range of jazz, and Dizzy Gillespie is my favorite jazz artist period. Bebop or otherwise.

Bebop is cerebral but its not like only theory experts can enjoy it. Its also packed with flavor, at least when it comes to Diz or Sandoval. Charlie Parker might be a bit more "strictly for the sport". I still truthfully find his music more "impressive" than rewarding, tho I'm sure plenty Bird afficianados would object. To me, Diz represents the perfect marriage of Brain & Booty.

For a bebop novice, Dizzy might be the better starting point (over Bird) from which an appreciation of Bird and bebop in general can spring. That's not because Dizzy is less sophisticated (I'm sure ppl would debate both sides of that), but if you're like me you can have more immediate dose of pleasure while organically growing a deeper familiarity with the mechanisms of bebop. I don't have the theory vocab to talk about it the way others in here do, but I'm pretty sure my ear&mind is noticing and picking up on many of the same principles they describe and that comes with familiarity, which comes from really enjoying it enough to listen a lot.

  

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help me navigate bebop. [View all] , Joe Corn Mo, Wed Feb-25-15 11:28 AM
 
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Feb 25th 2015
1
Maybe Duke Ellington said it best...
Feb 25th 2015
2
lol I prefer Sun-Ra to Miles as well, same kind of reason, yet I
Feb 27th 2015
15
What do you mean "doesn't resolve?"
Feb 26th 2015
3
i mean the part your ear is waiting to get to.
Feb 26th 2015
4
      Generally more useful to think in terms of types of resolution.
Feb 26th 2015
5
           that's really helpful.
Feb 26th 2015
6
                That said, I can't hum a Bird solo either.
Feb 26th 2015
7
                     nah, Hard Bop was more ''populist''...
Feb 26th 2015
8
                          That's true. Couldn't be any less, surely.
Feb 26th 2015
9
Charlie Parker's Music...
Feb 26th 2015
10
keep struggling at how to approach this so i'm just gon ramble
Feb 26th 2015
11
^^ edited above post to address the topic of navigating it early on
Feb 27th 2015
13
I'd say Dizzy was more ''out'' than Charlie tonally...
Feb 27th 2015
17
      No, I completely agree
Feb 27th 2015
18
I COMPLETELY agree with that George Clinton perspective btw
Feb 27th 2015
14
I think I'll make a mix of what I think might be accessible bop.
Feb 27th 2015
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