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35. "i'm like you with the mpc..."
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Tue Feb-24-15 05:10 PM by cbk

          

great topic! i gotta check out the full video when i get home.

i went from a 4-track, to an mpc2000, to protools, and now i'm getting familiar with logic.

starting off, i think every beatmaker in their 30s-40s has made pause tapes. shit, i even took one of those bullshit price club casio keyboards and tapped out beats, multi-layering it with the 4-track!

things got more serious with the mpc. it starting with just layering loops. then when "moment of truth" came out i (and everyone else with an mpc) chopped everything into 1-note samples and stabbed away. then a mix of the two. then turning off the quantizing feature. but THEN, it became more about controlling details rather than happy accidents, and that's when i REALLY really started using the step editor and the sample editing features on the mpc--"oh THAT'S how jay dee gets his shit to sound like that...THAT'S how dj shadow manually time-stretches that 1-minute long trumpet solo..."--(pre-2000xl). it got to a point when i didn't even use the pads to "play" anything. all step editor. but ironically, everything started to sound more "human" (via programmed dynamics, swing, and even better-placed sample air).

i was basically doing a protools workflow on my mpc, so by the time i actually got my hands on protools, i was able to do things i wanted--but MUCH faster. plus i had more options, esp with no sampling time limit and pad/trigger limits. i could sample an entire song and pluck out more parts to experiment with, without having to worry about ram memory and pad assignments. while conceivable on an mpc, it's probably not practical, and definitely not convenient. for example, for that last BLACK MESSIAH beat i made, i uploaded/"sampled" the entire album, chopped out every open instrument, made more chops of those...and then more, added some fx, etc. on an mpc, it probably would've taken over 100 pads just for the drums!

forget the mpc, gimme the software.

given all the above, it amazes me that the bomb squad and dj shadow made all those dense compositions on those limited machines from the 80s and 90s. it makes me appreciate what we have now and try find ways to stretch the limitations of the current gear we have.

Happy 50th D’Angelo: https://chrisp.bandcamp.com/track/d-50

  

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Live From The Writer's Bench - The Maschine vs. The MPC [View all] , Kil, Sun Feb-22-15 09:20 PM
 
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Feb 22nd 2015
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Dope episode Kil!
Feb 22nd 2015
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RE: Dope episode Kil!
Feb 22nd 2015
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RE: Live From The Writer's Bench - The Maschine vs. The MPC
Feb 23rd 2015
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Feb 23rd 2015
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You were pretty wrong to have shit slumped in the corner, lol.
Feb 23rd 2015
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started on the sp12, moved on to a 3000, ditched hardware when
Feb 23rd 2015
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RE: Live From The Writer's Bench - The Maschine vs. The MPC
Feb 23rd 2015
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Was R5 the sweet spot for you?
Feb 23rd 2015
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      RE: Was R5 the sweet spot for you?
Feb 24th 2015
21
workflow
Feb 23rd 2015
10
dropping all kinds of jewels in this bitch on the low tho lol
Feb 23rd 2015
11
What is the difference between Duet and M-Box Audio Midi jontz?
Feb 24th 2015
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      RE: What is the difference between Duet and M-Box Audio Midi jontz?
Feb 24th 2015
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           Bruh, I appreciate your clear understanding of the situ tremendously. T...
Feb 25th 2015
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started with the asr 10
Feb 23rd 2015
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RE: it's all about the sound for me
Feb 23rd 2015
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Roland XP50 - Korg Triton - MPC4000 - MPC2500
Feb 23rd 2015
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For the most part, I'm on some "Choose your weapon" shit.....
Feb 23rd 2015
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RE: For the most part, I'm on some "Choose your weapon" shit.....
Feb 24th 2015
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listened to entire show on way home from work..
Feb 24th 2015
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RE: listened to entire show on way home from work..
Feb 24th 2015
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      yeah i sold mine off within a year..got most of my loot thankfully..
Feb 24th 2015
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           RE: yeah i sold mine off within a year..got most of my loot thankfully..
Feb 24th 2015
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                RE: yeah i sold mine off within a year..got most of my loot thankfully..
Feb 24th 2015
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                     what got me is that you could connect a display and mouse to it...
Feb 25th 2015
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                          RE: what got me is that you could connect a display and mouse to it...
Feb 26th 2015
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MPC Renaissance with 1.8 update has changed everything for me
Feb 24th 2015
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RE: MPC Renaissance with 1.8 update has changed everything for me
Feb 24th 2015
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Feb 24th 2015
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Feb 24th 2015
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           RE: MPC Renaissance with 1.8 update has changed everything for me
Feb 24th 2015
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                RE: MPC Renaissance with 1.8 update has changed everything for me
Feb 24th 2015
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      RE: MPC Renaissance with 1.8 update has changed everything for me
Feb 27th 2015
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Just peeped the ep. I have made that transition...
Feb 24th 2015
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RE: Just peeped the ep. I have made that transition...
Feb 24th 2015
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man...
Feb 24th 2015
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RE: man...
Feb 24th 2015
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Just got back from Google...
Feb 24th 2015
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      RE: Just got back from Google...
Feb 24th 2015
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the zip drive i used with my old mpc was like that...
Feb 24th 2015
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      RE: the zip drive i used with my old mpc was like that...
Feb 24th 2015
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           lol.. yeah id end up naming the program with the bpms in titles...
Feb 25th 2015
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Feb 25th 2015
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RE: Just peeped the ep. I have made that transition...
Feb 24th 2015
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      Awe Man.In that case i'll consider you a widow twice...
Mar 01st 2015
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           RE: Awe Man.In that case i'll consider you a widow twice...
Mar 01st 2015
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                RE: Awe Man.In that case i'll consider you a widow twice...
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RE: Just peeped the ep. I have made that transition...
Feb 24th 2015
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RE: Just peeped the ep. I have made that transition...
Feb 24th 2015
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RE: Just peeped the ep. I have made that transition...
Feb 26th 2015
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      If I read how you work correctly,
May 13th 2015
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           Hey thanks for answering this...
May 13th 2015
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RE: and pete rock
Feb 24th 2015
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      WOW
Feb 25th 2015
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learned my cousin's Boss Dr-5 by mistake and it started there
Feb 25th 2015
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ALL YALL
Feb 25th 2015
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RE: ALL YALL
Feb 25th 2015
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      Maan, clichĂ© as it sounds...
Feb 26th 2015
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I stopped making music a while ago
Feb 25th 2015
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I'mma listen to this in a minute, but...
Feb 25th 2015
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RE: I'mma listen to this in a minute, but...
Feb 26th 2015
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RE: Live From The Writer's Bench - The Maschine vs. The MPC
Feb 26th 2015
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Great episode Kil
Feb 26th 2015
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Have any of you read this book? Amir Said's BeatTips Manual
Feb 26th 2015
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I have it.
Feb 26th 2015
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I think it's still worth reading though.
Feb 27th 2015
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      I honestly don't remember, at this point.
Feb 27th 2015
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Downloaded it on my iPad a month or two ago...
Mar 01st 2015
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      RE: Downloaded it on my iPad a month or two ago...
Mar 02nd 2015
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I actually went backwards, I started on software then...
Feb 26th 2015
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RE: I actually went backwards, I started on software then...
Feb 26th 2015
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      Nah not really...as far as work flow
Feb 28th 2015
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Really going to have to listen to this ep over the weekend
Feb 27th 2015
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listening right now: A point y'all made sticks out
Feb 27th 2015
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RE: listening right now: A point y'all made sticks out
Feb 27th 2015
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back then I wanted that Akai S01 that had just came out
Feb 27th 2015
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RE: listening right now: A point y'all made sticks out
Feb 27th 2015
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      hahaha!
Feb 27th 2015
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to be fair tho' the software is much, MUCH deeper
Mar 02nd 2015
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      But that's an apple/oranges comparison though.
Mar 03rd 2015
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MP 1000 + Logic + moog
Feb 28th 2015
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correction: the ASR-10 COULD timestretch
May 13th 2015
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RE: Live From The Writer's Bench - The Maschine vs. The MPC
May 13th 2015
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Maschine MK2 vs. Maschine Studio?
May 13th 2015
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RE: Maschine MK2 vs. Maschine Studio?
May 13th 2015
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      I think Maschine Studio is about $1,000
May 14th 2015
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