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bucknchange
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"noz on hov (swipe)...brutal, but i agree on a lot of this..."
Mon Feb-09-15 04:55 AM by bucknchange

  

          

jonesydaking:
Noz I think it’s weird that add much as you slander Hov from time to time to put all of his albums as the best albums of the 2000s. You stand by Supa Ugly and Takeover add being superior to Ether, pay live jay z videos and you said Dear Summer is your favorite Memphis Bleek. Bruh you know jay z one of your favorite rappers

noz:
Honestly man fuck Jay-Z. He was my favorite rapper back when he rapped about toting guns to the Grammys and popping bottles on the White House lawn but his influence in the 21st century has been completely detrimental in my humble opinion. He made it corny to write your rhymes down and made fitted hats match with button down shirts. He made disaffected cool the default stylistic mode for a certain breed of rapper thereby setting the emotional spectrum of East Coast hip hop back at least a decade and leaving a bunch of sad broke huffy 40 year old men trapped in a prison made of Avirex jackets saying things like heat on the counter like a microwave for all of eternity. He made horrible music with Linkin Park and Coldplay and The Roots for no other reason than to appeal to the worst sorts of white people, the ones who still hate rap and probably black people too. He tried - and of course failed - to shut down autotune, the catalyst for some of the most thrilling vocal innovations the genre has seen since Kool Moe Dee first invented fast rap on the toilet in the ’80s. He reduced tragic and conflicted geniuses like Biggie, Pac, Kurt and Basquiat to mere props in his quest to become the type of corporate boardroom dickhead they all would’ve rolled their eyes or spat at. He promoted the myth of attaining some sort of objective individual greatness through hip hop over the very realistic goal of community growth. He made compromised crossover the principal ambition for an entire generation of would-be serious rappers. (As opposed to, say, Puff or P who were unapologetic capitalists but who never once pretended to be great artists.) And worse than all of that he forgot how to rap well along the way.

I know he is a role model for a lot of people who mistakenly think personal liberation can be achieved through fame and monetary wealth and hey if that is what is getting you through your day then live that day with pride but from where I am sitting everything he has done post-retirement falls somewhere between pathetic and destructive. Except I did like it the one time when he said “I’m afraid of the future.”
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noz on hov (swipe)...brutal, but i agree on a lot of this... [View all] , bucknchange, Mon Feb-09-15 04:55 AM
 
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I've said this for years
Feb 09th 2015
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P and Puff ARE artists, bitch.
Feb 09th 2015
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puff gets credit for gettint biggie to not rap about murder all the time...
Feb 09th 2015
3
stop dude.
Feb 09th 2015
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      the last two joints were hot.
Feb 09th 2015
7
      Last Train to Paris had some jawns on it
Feb 10th 2015
19
He said great artists
Feb 09th 2015
4
CH3-CH2-O-CH2-CH3
Feb 09th 2015
5
lol
Feb 09th 2015
8
yet Noz himself is a chief culprit in promoting rappers
Feb 09th 2015
9
RE: yet Noz himself is a chief culprit in promoting rappers
Feb 09th 2015
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RE: yet Noz himself is a chief culprit in promoting rappers
Feb 09th 2015
13
Yeah
Feb 09th 2015
12
      RE: Yeah, i really didn't want to add Snoop, but
Feb 09th 2015
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      Agree re: Snoop.
Feb 10th 2015
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      Snoop's one of the few rappers that actually used their popularity
Feb 10th 2015
17
ain't mad at it.
Feb 09th 2015
10
he made horrible music with the roots?-
Feb 10th 2015
15
Lol high quality trolling
Feb 10th 2015
18

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