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36. "Actually, they already asked you but..."
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Sat Dec-13-14 11:54 AM by Anonymous

  

          

>in no order
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>rza
>primo
>dre
>pete rock

Of course

>alchemist

El-P and Alc are in the same league in my opinion but one could argue El-P has more classic full albums and has been more innovative than Alc so this could go either way.

>large pro

Ok

>kno

I could argue he is more musically talented but he hasn't had the same career as el-p by any means.

>quik

Yes

>mannie fresh

Fuck no. I know its cool to name drop Mannie Fresh in attempts to like some southern shit but Cash Money was ALWAYS trash. And I like some of his beats but come on man...he was the start of synth bus it with Swizz. Should've said ONP.

>dj muggs

Ok...same league to me. I love Muggs but he isn't a sure shot over El-P.

>kanye

I guess...I don't think he's better though. Go listen to ISWYD again.

>marley marl

Of course the classic original so we have to name him but I could argue he isn't a better producer.

>beatminerz

I love the beatminerz but they have always been serviceable to me. Classic records like Dah Shinin' but their production was never the star of the show for me. It was the overall package and style. I would never think "oh shit I need a beatminerz joint for my album in the same sense as the first 4 on this list.

>havoc

No...overrated as fuck and Q-Tip produced Infamous.

>neptunes

I'll give you this...very different styles.

>timbo

Same as Neptunes

>just blaze

Not nearly as prolific and has never produced an entire album so no.

>erick sermon

Ok.

>beatnuts

Same league to me

>madlib

Same league to me.

And I'll add on that Dilla is better.

El-P to me is right outside that top level. There are producers like Buckwild and Just Blaze who are as good as El-P to me but lose out for not having those full albums.

I know his style can be grating and maybe an acquired taste but there's no way he can be overlooked at this point. He has a lengthy track record and has been pretty prolific. Acting like he's average at best is why people are taking you as a joke.

  

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Where does EL-P rank all-time [View all] , John Forte, Thu Dec-11-14 02:53 PM
 
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on the cusp of top 25...26-30 range right now...
Dec 11th 2014
1
He's a great, but I rank him higher as a producer
Dec 11th 2014
2
^^^
Dec 11th 2014
3
very easily in MY top 10 as a producer. EASY
Dec 11th 2014
4
You can't name a El-P song that will be a standard in hip hop.
Dec 11th 2014
5
^^^
Dec 11th 2014
6
El-P >>> the Beatnuts
Dec 11th 2014
7
Don't be mad cuz I'm right.
Dec 11th 2014
8
RE: El-P >>> the Beatnuts
Dec 12th 2014
10
bro as you can see through this post. El-P is not strange
Dec 13th 2014
25
Apples taste better than oranges! n/m
Dec 12th 2014
13
ain't no Velvet Underground or Television songs in the rock canon
Dec 12th 2014
11
Yup. I love how people love to switch the viewpoint for their arguments
Dec 12th 2014
12
i think that's a poor comparison. those groups were hugely influential
Dec 13th 2014
34
unlike such luminaries as Paperboy, Peter Gunz, and Silkk the Shocker
Dec 12th 2014
15
RE: unlike such luminaries as Paperboy, Peter Gunz, and Silkk the Shocke...
Dec 13th 2014
56
8 steps to perfection?
Dec 12th 2014
20
pretty much
Dec 13th 2014
35
RE: Where does EL-P rank all-time
Dec 12th 2014
9
RE: Where does EL-P rank all-time
Dec 12th 2014
14
Probably a top 50 all time producer, I don't rate him as a rapper though
Dec 12th 2014
16
RE: Probably a top 50 all time producer, I don't rate him as a rapper th...
Dec 12th 2014
19
      are you serious???
Dec 12th 2014
22
           bro, just cause YOU are not a fan doesn't mean
Dec 13th 2014
24
                i mean he asked for 10 better producers...i can name 20. *shrug*
Dec 13th 2014
26
                     but you still haven't named them
Dec 13th 2014
30
                          I thought you'd never ask
Dec 13th 2014
32
                               RE: I thought you'd never ask
Dec 13th 2014
33
                               if all you have to say to Kno is "just no"...
Dec 13th 2014
38
                                    these people are so lost...nm
Dec 13th 2014
40
                                    nah, they just ignore Kno because CL aren't canonized in any major
Dec 13th 2014
41
                                    RE: if all you have to say to Kno is "just no"...
Dec 13th 2014
53
                              
                               RE: Actually, they already asked you but...
Dec 13th 2014
42
                                    way to put the Fox New spin on this shit
Dec 13th 2014
45
                                         Wrong again. I do like El P.
Dec 13th 2014
46
                               personally for me el-p is top 5-10, but if he's not your cup of tea
Dec 13th 2014
37
                               RE: I thought you'd never ask
Dec 13th 2014
39
                                    nobody needs to reply
Dec 13th 2014
43
                                    i dont care about "since..." he asked for 10 better, i listed 20
Dec 13th 2014
44
                                         Q-Tip>>>>>>>>>> el-p
Dec 13th 2014
47
                                         hell yeah Tip better than El
Dec 13th 2014
48
                                         RE: i dont care about "since..." he asked for 10 better, i lis...
Dec 13th 2014
49
                                         funny how you think you know what's on my ipod/phone. are you clairvoyan...
Dec 13th 2014
50
                                              ISWYD...
Dec 13th 2014
55
                                         re: full albums. thats not an unfair criteria really.
Dec 14th 2014
58
#2
Dec 12th 2014
17
#1 Nas
Dec 12th 2014
21
      I'm almost shocked you didn't say Inspectah Deck or AZ
Dec 13th 2014
28
           Just speaking the facts man...
Dec 13th 2014
29
Top 5 Hip Hop producer, Top 50 Emcee
Dec 12th 2014
18
In my personal top 15, if not Top 10
Dec 13th 2014
23
Kinda overrated IMO
Dec 13th 2014
27
He's def above 9th and Black Milk
Dec 13th 2014
31
      You do realize 9th was more of a game changer than EL-P right?
Dec 13th 2014
51
           RE: You do realize 9th was more of a game changer than EL-P right?
Dec 13th 2014
54
           The Listening >>>>> everything in EL P's catalog..including RTJ.
Dec 14th 2014
65
                LOFL. you're crazy and I still got love for you fam
Dec 15th 2014
66
                *dap*
Dec 15th 2014
67
                RE: The Listening >>>>> everything in EL P's catalog..including RTJ.
Dec 15th 2014
69
           do you know what commercial success looks like in 2014?
Dec 14th 2014
59
           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Dec 16th 2014
73
           fuck outta here.
Dec 14th 2014
60
           How was 9th a game changer?
Dec 14th 2014
61
                He inspired a million clones, helped legitimize FL Studio, & Little Brot...
Dec 14th 2014
64
Well
Dec 13th 2014
52
Wow
Dec 13th 2014
57
top 3 rapper/producer
Dec 14th 2014
62
RE: top 3 rapper/producer
Dec 14th 2014
63
      good list too; oddisee THAT high though???
Dec 18th 2014
85
I put him in that mid good/great level
Dec 15th 2014
68
one of the best producers on the mic ever...
Dec 16th 2014
70
RE: one of the best producers on the mic ever...
Dec 16th 2014
80
u dont need to convince me, brother...
Dec 19th 2014
87
RE: one of the best producers on the mic ever...
Dec 16th 2014
81
So is he a greater emcee than his RTJ partner?
Dec 16th 2014
71
RE: So is he a greater emcee than his RTJ partner?
Dec 16th 2014
72
Wrong answer...Killer Mike >>>>> EL-P
Dec 16th 2014
74
I don't think Mike will ever get the props he deserves
Dec 16th 2014
76
not even close.
Dec 16th 2014
78
That's a subjective question
Dec 16th 2014
75
      RE: That's a subjective question
Dec 16th 2014
77
      RE: That's a subjective question
Dec 18th 2014
84
      RE: That's a subjective question
Dec 16th 2014
79
Lmao
Dec 18th 2014
82
this place is bizarro world
Dec 18th 2014
86
All I know is I'd like RTJ to add Ghostface and Kool Kieth
Dec 18th 2014
83

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