38. "i dont know if hip hops rhythmic sensibilities had a good influence" In response to In response to 36 Thu Apr-19-12 10:00 AM by GumDrops
when you consider the standard boom bap beat is really not actually very complex, its the most basic, repetitive beat ever. it might be funky, but its really simplistic. i loved my bloody valentines loveless for example but sampled 'gritty' drums used by non-rap artists often just sounded leaden, like it was weighing the rest of the parts down. the best example of hip hop on jazz i can think of is MMW's the dropper, as it was engineered like a rap album, but they didnt try and sound hip-hop in any other way. i wish more people did that. they were smart.
new jack swing i guess was made more funky by hip hop drums but once hip hop got out of the funky drummer era, and boiled itself down to its more essential parts, the 'hip hop beat' started to get pretty simple and ploddy (though obv not as ploddy as eminem beats). im having trouble recalling good examples of jazz, soul or rock using hip hop production in a good way.
ironically i think modern non sampled rap has had a much more positive effect, as its easier to adapt by producers in a different way. its much more conducive to putting your own spin on it than boom bap. no wonder that hip hop has really entrenched itself more around the globe and spawned more interesting regional rap spin offs since boom bap started to wane (thats my theory at least).