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8. "I'm fine with them but Live at the Vanguard is a great place to start"
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Fri Mar-02-12 12:44 AM by Nodima

  

          

this review is still wild a decade later

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvogqD8NIS8

to Pitchfork's credit they've really strayed from these sorts of conceptual screeds in the pastfour/five years. Though their Youtube reviews of certain bands they built up only to tear down are equally if not more disappointing.

Also I've said many times here that it bothers me as they've become more popular and their writers less underground-obsessed (around the time they started posting year-end singles charts including numerous artists they'd panned throughout the year or payed no attention to like Rihanna) their rap coverage has come to almost completely ignore the Def Jux/anticon. scenes they were instrumental in introducing me to in favor of lionizing Gucci Mane, Future and others. I enjoy those artists, but their review of Future's Astronaut Status mixtape actually made this claim:

"Future has said in interviews that he wants to make stadium music, and though that's enough of a jump in ambition that it could lead him down a disastrous path, he does succeed on Astronaut Status when he widens his scope or pushes himself vocally. The obvious standout in this regard is "Deeper Than the Ocean", a track with Spanish guitars and a squealing solo that finds Future singing in a cracked, raspy voice about the pain in his life. The sentiment is real and the lyrics a bit jarring, even if the execution is slightly ridiculous-- but it would only be a small leap of faith to close your eyes and imagine Future as Adele performing "Someone Like You" at the Brit Awards."

Not only is that mixtape not even on the level of Future's previous tapes (particularly True Story), but you're really going to try to stand behind that? We're talking about this for christ's sakes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ivq6m-knZ0

It's a good song (curb that debate, I know most hate Future-types here) but, no, it's not just a small leap of faith to imagine that scenario.


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Why do people hate Pitchfork? [View all] , bigjfray, Thu Mar-01-12 08:58 PM
 
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Because they're white.
Mar 01st 2012
1
nothing is wrong with the writing IMO
Mar 01st 2012
2
here's why i dislike them.
Mar 01st 2012
3
this
Mar 01st 2012
6
whether or not you should spend money on a particular album
Mar 02nd 2012
14
      time.
Mar 02nd 2012
23
It's the dominant music publication of our time...
Mar 01st 2012
4
I get the feeling they think their shit don't stink
Mar 01st 2012
5
It makes their music taste seem less "special"
Mar 01st 2012
7
Allmusic is so much better
Mar 02nd 2012
9
yeah, and you kind of hit home as to why I used to live on Allmusic.
Mar 02nd 2012
10
when i envision walking into Pitchfork offices
Mar 02nd 2012
11
      they've had black writers before
Mar 02nd 2012
20
Allmusic gave Paris Hilton's album a 4.5
Mar 02nd 2012
12
      their words have always been more useful than their ratings
Mar 02nd 2012
21
           oh, the ratings I just let fly over my head mostly unless it's crazy
Mar 02nd 2012
22
One thing I never got about
Mar 02nd 2012
13
Their facebook updates got it covered
Mar 02nd 2012
15
RE: This is part of the reason:
Mar 02nd 2012
16
RE: This is part of the reason:
Mar 02nd 2012
34
Seems like everything is good about the site
Mar 02nd 2012
17
I don't hate it.
Mar 02nd 2012
18
that they've become what OKP should have become
Mar 02nd 2012
19
interesting. I dont entirely disagree. n/m
Mar 02nd 2012
24
RE: that they've become what OKP should have become
Mar 02nd 2012
25
      A fully developed alt/indy market would be ideal
Mar 02nd 2012
26
           Sort of like a HipHopInfinity?
Mar 02nd 2012
27
                I remember HHI
Mar 02nd 2012
31
Ever since the Spotify deal, I've been very pro-pitchfork
Mar 02nd 2012
28
their reviews are often pretentious, overwrought
Mar 02nd 2012
29
terrible reviews. i like most of their taste in music
Mar 02nd 2012
30
Most ppl hate the way they review & and think they have specific agendas
Mar 02nd 2012
32
All the important reasons been
Mar 02nd 2012
33
RE: This is so important:
Mar 03rd 2012
35
      If someone created the pitchfork alternative......
Mar 03rd 2012
36
      To play devil's advocate though...
Mar 05th 2012
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           RE: The thing is:
Mar 05th 2012
39
RE: Why do people hate Pitchfork?
Mar 05th 2012
38
Don't you need someone to tell you something is cool though
Mar 05th 2012
40
i don't listen to music to be cool
Mar 05th 2012
41

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