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"Russian documents reveal desire to sow violence in the U.S."
Wed May-22-19 11:09 AM by naame

  

          

Russian documents reveal desire to sow racial discord — and violence — in the U.S.
The revelations come as U.S. intelligence agencies have warned of probable Russian meddling in the 2020 election.



New evidence suggests Russia tried to sow unrest in the U.S. beyond the 2020 election
MAY 20, 201901:43
May 20, 2019, 6:54 PM EDT
By Richard Engel, Kate Benyon-Tinker and Kennett Werner
LONDON — Russians who were linked to interference in the 2016 U.S. election discussed ambitious plans to stoke unrest and even violence inside the U.S. as recently as 2018, according to documents reviewed by NBC News.

The documents — communications between associates of Yevgeny Prigozhin, a Kremlin-linked oligarch indicted by special counsel Robert Mueller for previous influence operations against the U.S. — laid out a new plot to manipulate and radicalize African Americans. The plans show that Prigozhin’s circle has sought to exploit racial tensions well beyond Russia’s social media and misinformation efforts tied to the 2016 election.

The documents were obtained through the Dossier Center, a London-based investigative project funded by Russian opposition figure Mikhail Khodorkovsky. NBC News has not independently verified the materials, but forensic analysis by the Dossier Center appeared to substantiate the communications.

One document said that President Donald Trump’s election had “deepened conflicts in American society” and suggested that, if successful, the influence project would “undermine the country’s territorial integrity and military and economic potential.”

The revelations come as U.S. intelligence agencies have warned of probable Russian meddling in the 2020 election.


The documents contained proposals for several ways to further exacerbate racial discord in the future, including a suggestion to recruit African Americans and transport them to camps in Africa “for combat prep and training in sabotage.” Those recruits would then be sent back to America to foment violence and work to establish a pan-African state in the South, particularly in South Carolina, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi and Louisiana.

There is no indication that the plan — which is light on details — was ever put into action, but it offers a fresh example of the mindset around Russian efforts to sow discord in the U.S.

The blueprint, entitled “Development Strategy of a Pan-African State on U.S. Territory,” floated the idea of enlisting poor, formerly incarcerated African Americans “who have experience in organized crime groups” as well as members of “radical black movements for participation in civil disobedience actions.”

The goal was to “destabilize the internal situation in the U.S.”

Frank Figliuzzi, a former assistant director of counterintelligence at the FBI and an NBC News contributor, who reviewed the documents, said that they offer a warning to the U.S.

“Regardless of whether or not these plans are an amateurish thought experiment, the fact that these people are talking about doing this should disturb Americans of all stripes,” Figliuzzi said.

“The unfortunate reality is that we’re seeing an adversary that will consider virtually anything to get what it wants, and if it means violence or splitting America along racial lines or eroding our trust in institutions, they’ll do it.”

Some of the documents appear to have been sent by Dzheykhun “Jay” Aslanov, an employee of the Internet Research Agency, the St. Petersburg-based troll farm that played a key role in the 2016 Russian meddling campaign. Aslanov was one of 13 Russians indicted by Mueller in February 2018 for his role with the IRA.

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The plan was shared with Mikhail Potepkin, a Russian businessman, who then circulated it more widely, according to communications reviewed by NBC News.

Both Aslanov and Potepkin have been linked to Prigozhin, a Russian catering magnate often described as “Putin’s chef.” Prigozhin was also indicted by Mueller for funding the IRA. Widely perceived as a Kremlin operative, he has been connected to a shadowy mercenary outfit known as the Wagner Group, whose guns-for-hire are reported to have been involved in Russian military operations in Syria and Eastern Ukraine, according to U.S. military officials.

The Mueller report exposed how Russian trolls, employed by associates of Prigozhin, deliberately inflamed racial tensions by spreading false and incendiary stories to African Americans via social media. Among the objectives was to suppress black turnout in the 2016 U.S. election.

Another of the newly obtained documents is a map of the U.S. overlaid with information about African American population size in seven southern states. Also included are the number of subscribers to websites and social media accounts that were set up by Russian trolls at the IRA to spread race-baiting rhetoric, the latter of which were later removed by the social media companies.

Image: A map of the U.S. overlaid with information about African-American population size in seven southern states that was part of a cache of documents found in communications from Russians linked to U.S. election interference.A map of the U.S. overlaid with information about African-American population size in seven southern states that was part of a cache of documents found in communications from Russians linked to U.S. election interference.The Dossier Center
Rep. Val Demings, D-Fla., who was briefed on the documents, said they highlight how ongoing racial issues in the U.S. can be used in misinformation efforts.

“Russia understands how critical the African American vote is to determining the outcome of elections,” said Demings, who sits on the House Intelligence Committee. “And because we have not effectively dealt with racism as a country ourselves, I believe we've made ourselves vulnerable to foreign powers like Russia to continue to try to undermine.”

The documents also discuss how to expand Russia’s clout on the African continent and win business there, from arms sales to mining contracts. They outline propaganda efforts to target Africans and stir up negative opinions about Europe and the U.S.

Cooking up elaborate interference schemes is standard practice within Prigozhin’s circle, according to Andrei Soldatov, an expert on Russian intelligence and author of “The Red Web,” a book on Russian information warfare.

“This is typical of the way Prigozhin and his team operate,” Soldatov said. “They come up with pitches, some of them very ambitious. They discuss many possible ideas and then send the pitches to the Kremlin to be authorized or rejected. It’s their modus operandi.”

The idea of African American statehood has an intellectual precedent in Russia. During the early 20th century, communists in America proposed forming a “black-belt nation” in the South. Some party members traveled to the Soviet Union for training.

“Even though these kinds of initiatives from the Russians aren’t new to us, what is new is the rapidity with which they can get this message out on social media and saturate the American consumer with these kinds of thoughts,” said Figliuzzi, the former FBI official. “That puts the Russian initiative on steroids and should scare all of us.”

Image: Richard Engel
Richard Engel
Richard Engel has been NBC News' chief foreign correspondent since 2008.

Kate Benyon-Tinker
Kate Benyon-Tinker is a senior producer for NBC News, based in London.

Kennett Werner
Kennett Werner is a reporter for NBC News.
America has imported more warlord theocracy from Afghanistan than it has exported democracy.

  

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Russian documents reveal desire to sow violence in the U.S. [View all] , naame, Wed May-22-19 11:08 AM
 
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Wow, basically radicalize black people into a militia/terror group
May 22nd 2019
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A couple things struck me
May 22nd 2019
3
      your sig hittin' real different nowadays
May 22nd 2019
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      RE: A couple things struck me
May 26th 2019
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good podcast companion for this: It Could Happen Here (2nd CIvil War)
May 22nd 2019
2
this is where i am on it
May 22nd 2019
9
Lol horseshit. Americans have been doing that without aid for centuries
May 22nd 2019
4
Basically
May 23rd 2019
13
Doesn't surprise me at all. Racial discord is part of Russia's playbook
May 22nd 2019
5
And you can add Christianity beating (state-imposed) Atheism.
May 22nd 2019
10
funny how it always comes back to Black people being the problem
May 22nd 2019
7
Agendaa on top of agendas
May 22nd 2019
11
What's crazy is that after trump gets re-elected (god forbid), the Russi...
May 22nd 2019
8
is it against the rules to post links?
May 23rd 2019
12
Man i forgot to post the link before i couldn't edit
May 23rd 2019
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If any country wanted to sow violence among the people
May 24th 2019
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this Russia scare business is out of hand.
May 25th 2019
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russia directly ties into this:
May 25th 2019
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The black agenda and putin's agenda have diverged significantly
May 25th 2019
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      seriously, that Russia is being used to reinforce
May 25th 2019
19
           this strain of russia denialism on the left is really weird.
May 25th 2019
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           it's real, to an extent, but it cannot be used as a crutch
May 26th 2019
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           This is true.
May 26th 2019
25
           Shit is dumb
May 26th 2019
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           this is not only about voting
May 26th 2019
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                FB ads are gonna radicalize people?
May 27th 2019
33
                Online radicalization is a thing
May 27th 2019
36
                     So are videotaped murders by cops
May 27th 2019
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                          You sound goofy as hell thinking this is only about fb ads
May 27th 2019
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                               What else did they use to target Black voters?
May 28th 2019
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                                    Stealing voter information, stealing e-mails, funding the nra
May 28th 2019
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                                         so the shit the dems DID that wikileaks exposed ain't the problem?
May 28th 2019
49
                                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
May 28th 2019
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                                         Not if they give it to zimmerman's defense team
May 29th 2019
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                                              the first round if Wikialeaks (that people are trying to say
May 29th 2019
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                                                   did the russians hack the dnc and release the e-mails through wikileaks?
May 29th 2019
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                                                        No, in my opinion Russians did not hack the DNC.
May 29th 2019
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                                         Bruh they are undermining black political power and supporting
May 29th 2019
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                                         who's a bigger historical threat to Black people:
May 29th 2019
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                                              The only reason i responded to Mr. Man's comment
May 29th 2019
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                                                   ok, replace putin with Russia. HISTORICALLY AND NOW
May 29th 2019
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                                                        ^^^THAT PART^^^
May 29th 2019
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                                         Once again: what was it that the Democrats did?
May 29th 2019
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                                              RE: Once again: what was it that the Democrats did?
May 29th 2019
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                                                   consulted with Harvey Weinstein on how to silence Erika Garner
May 29th 2019
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                                                   LOL, so the Democratic party was working to elect Democrats. Horror!!!
May 29th 2019
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                                                        And every major international press organization
May 29th 2019
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                                                             same press who covered her emails more than literally every other topic
May 29th 2019
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                                                                  International press? Nah, they didn't. At all
May 29th 2019
107
                                                   LOL, this is thin, and thoroughly unsupported by evidence.
May 29th 2019
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                                                        RE: LOL, this is thin, and thoroughly unsupported by evidence.
May 29th 2019
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                                         I’m saying... how did it impact our vote?
May 29th 2019
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                                              Then there's that.
May 29th 2019
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                People who are close to the edge don’t need Russians
May 27th 2019
37
           In 2016 I voted for Stein in NY because of her
May 27th 2019
31
           So you cared more about making an empty personal statement
May 27th 2019
38
           So first off, the idea was the help the Green Party
May 27th 2019
42
                I stan a strategic voter.
May 28th 2019
43
                literally the same people riding on the
May 28th 2019
51
                Such confidence in such flawed logic.
May 29th 2019
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                     RE: Such confidence in such flawed logic.
May 29th 2019
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           Bro i been green, voted for cynthia mckinney. Worked with ajamu baraka
May 27th 2019
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           because the republican and democratic parties have both been
May 27th 2019
32
           So is Russia's agenda still something black heroes use for liberation?
May 26th 2019
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           You disagree with the russian conspiracy theory
May 26th 2019
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           Plenty of people on both sides getting paid off that oil
May 26th 2019
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                Russia's main export is oil
May 26th 2019
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           Hey Mr Man C
May 29th 2019
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                waddup RENAAAAY haha
May 29th 2019
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the shit is funny to me. they are trying to do what others ...
May 26th 2019
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So they are allegedly trying to do what the CIA/NSA does
May 27th 2019
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Anytime I brought this up the reply was
May 28th 2019
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Pretty much
May 29th 2019
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they do that shit domestically, too
May 29th 2019
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      Oh without a doubt.
May 29th 2019
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We spent 10 billion propping up Boris Yeltsin
May 27th 2019
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outside of NC and maybe Florida what other southern states
May 28th 2019
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manafort gave them polling data for the entire country
May 28th 2019
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      ...which just so happened to be the states that Hillary ignored
May 28th 2019
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           DNC leaders in Wisconsin begged her to come
May 29th 2019
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           Yes
May 29th 2019
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                so, hillary not campaigning in key states
May 29th 2019
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                     the kkk was spawned out of the democratic party
May 29th 2019
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                          Nigga what? Did you really just... oh my
May 29th 2019
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                               "right wing" "left wing"... get out of here man
May 29th 2019
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                                    Cool. Keep doing to work for them with that wack ass fun fact.
May 29th 2019
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Lol @ defensive Jill Stein voters
May 29th 2019
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Lmao. These some arty smarty ass negroids.
May 29th 2019
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Jill Stein has run for President the last 2 elections though.
May 29th 2019
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      The fucking gall of people thinking that you can't vote for who you want
May 30th 2019
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           They don’t want to accept how many Trump voters actually exist
May 30th 2019
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Do you think you could be influenced?
May 29th 2019
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yes man. the influence extends beyond elections
May 29th 2019
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That's not Russia. That's the CIA and capitalism
May 29th 2019
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      It's actually mossad.
May 29th 2019
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           Mossad ain't pass the telecom act of 96
May 30th 2019
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                Ok bruh
May 30th 2019
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i think everyone is influenced here, with varying levels
May 29th 2019
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By FB or the Russians? Hell nah
May 29th 2019
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I mean we all have our own varying degrees of confirmation bias
May 29th 2019
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The kind of person who thinks they can't be suckered,
May 29th 2019
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yup. anti-vaxxers and flat earthers are so proud they can't be fooled
May 29th 2019
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      fringe black radicals are exactly like this
May 30th 2019
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Yes. Even if not directly, I'd be influenced by people that were influen...
May 29th 2019
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Confirmation bias is so sneaky
May 29th 2019
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Sure. That happens to most of us.
May 29th 2019
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      Imagine there's a 1% chance you'd change your vote over propaganda.
May 29th 2019
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      I hear you but it’s politics. There will always be propaganda
May 29th 2019
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           from Russia?
May 29th 2019
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                Is that worse?
May 30th 2019
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                For some reason
May 30th 2019
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                     That's pretty much what I had in mind
May 30th 2019
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                Russia been fucking with us since forever
May 30th 2019
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                     Social media is also incredibly targeted, unfiltered, cheap and effectiv...
May 30th 2019
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                          Agreed. And Zuckerberg's only compounding the issue(s).
May 30th 2019
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      Just listened to a story about this. It worked in the Alabama senate rac...
May 29th 2019
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           I’m out so I can’t listen to it anytime soon
May 29th 2019
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You know what's wild? My tax returns this year were GREAT.
May 29th 2019
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LOL - that's not wild at all cause I feel the same way.
May 29th 2019
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Yes
May 30th 2019
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How do you think thoughts occur?
May 30th 2019
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*runs and trips over soapbox*
May 30th 2019
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Some info on the Facebook / Cambridge Analytica data breach
May 29th 2019
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Facebook is a terrible company
May 30th 2019
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      It is...
May 30th 2019
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      You’re not wrong
May 30th 2019
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      I hear you and agree
May 30th 2019
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      Man we are all wide open for manipulation
May 30th 2019
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      mark "i'm going to fuck them" zuckerberg and friends
May 30th 2019
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           trea·son·ous
May 30th 2019
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Leaked documents reveal Russian effort to exert influence in Africa
Jun 11th 2019
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So they're doing diplomacy?
Jun 11th 2019
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And it's not new, either. This was a huge part of what the Cold War
Jun 11th 2019
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the only reason I reposted it
Jun 11th 2019
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      Well that's reasonable
Jun 11th 2019
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link
Jun 11th 2019
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