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double negative
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"Whats the long term plan with cancel culture and art?"


  

          

As a person who has experienced some abuse in my lifetime, I get it when it comes to wanting to see some justice or not being reminded of the abuser.


So, with prominent artists going down for past transgressions AND our shifting perspective on societal level, I also get the time we're in where the music of R Kelly is being removed from platforms, the old Cosby shows are being pulled from syndication and Michael Jackson's art and impact is being shelved.

These people are bad and they have done bad things.

But, in response to all of this, I've been thinking to myself, what is the long term plan?

What I mean is....a year from now will we all collectively still not be listening to MJ and Kelly and not watching Cosby reruns?

3 years from will we all collectively still not be listening to MJ and Kelly and not watching Cosby reruns?

5 years from now will we all collectively still not be listening to MJ and Kelly and not watching Cosby reruns?

10 years from now will we all collectively still not be listening to MJ and Kelly and not watching Cosby reruns?


Is the art canceled forever as well? Is that the plan? Or, since this is new territory, we're kind of making it up as we go along?

Is this all really about a massive shift where as a society are learning to separate art from artist?

What about the impact and life changing aspect their art has had for some people? I'm not comparing the two things (positive actions vs. negative actions) but I am legitimately wondering if their bad actions completely erase the good they have done for some people.


The genesis for this post was seeing the headline where the Simpsons will be pulling the episode featuring MJ's voice. Which, I totally get, its not great optics and if they were to take a position of inaction they would be viewed as guilty by association.


And, I guess, with MJ I've been having a hard time with other people having a hard time in the many thinking pieces about coming to terms with how they feel about Michael Jackson after the most recent revelations. Which to me is...strange because its not as if this is all out of the blue. We've had TWENTY SIX YEARS to figure this out (first allegation was in 1993).


Anyway....wtf we gonna do?























alright, I was fighting myself about this last point because its dripping in whataboutism - but why does it seem like we're so SO slow to pick who will be canceled? Like, Woody Allen, Ted Nugent, Steven Tyler, Russel Simmons, Charlie Walk, LA Reid, etc. all have done dirt and their stories have broken but they still keep standing and we still keep supporting - I don't know if its cognitive dissonance or if we are selectively separating art from artist.

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Whats the long term plan with cancel culture and art? [View all] , double negative, Fri Mar-08-19 01:31 PM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
MJ's not going to be "cancelled" for long
Mar 08th 2019
1
were those episodes also removed from retail collections though?
Mar 08th 2019
4
      Why shouldn't we look at this?
Mar 08th 2019
12
           I'm saying I think we should, and it seems silly to ferret things away
Mar 08th 2019
                what the fuck kinda dumb shit is this?
Mar 08th 2019
28
                     RE: what the fuck kinda dumb shit is this?
Mar 11th 2019
49
                          how is an episode of the simpsons an uncomfortable truth
Mar 11th 2019
58
                               would they have cut the episode from syndication if it were comfortable?
Mar 11th 2019
59
                                    the creator wanted to pull it.
Mar 11th 2019
62
your last point isn't whataboutism at all
Mar 08th 2019
2
The people that advocate such things don't have answers for you
Mar 08th 2019
3
imagine being this loser
Mar 08th 2019
6
See what I'm saying, Double Negative?
Mar 08th 2019
7
      The direct answer is that you're a loser.
Mar 08th 2019
27
You wanted 21 Savage deported by ICE because he doesn't rap happy enough
Mar 08th 2019
14
      I'm assuming the idea that I could be joking never occurred to you
Mar 08th 2019
17
           It didn't occur to you at the time, though
Mar 08th 2019
18
when someone gets cancelled the first time we can talk
Mar 08th 2019
5
mmmmm - Noriega
Mar 08th 2019
15
If someone is committing crimes/victimising people
Mar 08th 2019
8
I'll be happy when cancel culture catches up to religion
Mar 08th 2019
9
Thomas Jefferson - 44 / Sally Hemmings - 14
Mar 08th 2019
10
People bring this shit up about Jefferson all the time
Mar 08th 2019
13
      it's a joke
Mar 08th 2019
19
           For such a slow board fools still be quick to jump out the bushes... lo...
Mar 08th 2019
22
           ha! 'google it'
Mar 08th 2019
24
           Has anyone ever ACTUALLY been 'cancelled?'
Mar 08th 2019
33
                stop
Mar 08th 2019
37
                     I googled it, they said it's a strawman
Mar 11th 2019
48
There's two categories: Criminals and non-criminals.
Mar 08th 2019
11
be perfect or suffer.
Mar 08th 2019
16
Not a fan of erasing chapters from books
Mar 08th 2019
20
i'm so tired of these buzzwords
Mar 08th 2019
21
yeah, it's an interesting discussion
Mar 08th 2019
41
      virtue signaling is an unfortunate one
Mar 13th 2019
95
Good post, I was actually thinking about this IRT Picasso
Mar 08th 2019
23
lying ass muthafucka
Mar 08th 2019
26
wat?
Mar 08th 2019
30
people will become more insular.
Mar 08th 2019
25
this approach reminds me of a woman i dated years ago
Mar 08th 2019
29
oh my god.
Mar 08th 2019
31
y'all really think you invented ostracization
Mar 08th 2019
32
      i think you've been ostracized your whole life, in real life
Mar 08th 2019
36
           you should try not thinking
Mar 08th 2019
40
                homes, worry about getting to the pharmacy before they close.
Mar 08th 2019
42
                     went yesterday, needed some hydrocortisone
Mar 08th 2019
43
                          well played
Mar 09th 2019
46
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Em18QlnkCp0
Mar 08th 2019
39
Cosby reruns are still playing.
Mar 08th 2019
34
maybe once a week...on one channel, with no ratings
Mar 08th 2019
38
On TVOne or Bounce at 4AM.
Mar 08th 2019
44
      cancel inconvenient scheduling culture
Mar 08th 2019
45
I'm canceling neither R. Kelly or Mike Jack's music ,
Mar 08th 2019
35
Americans have no problem singing the Starred Spangled Banner
Mar 11th 2019
50
optimally, awful men will be viewed less favorably
Mar 09th 2019
47
What does someone being "cancelled" look like?
Mar 11th 2019
51
they don't want to discuss this
Mar 11th 2019
52
I'm completely sincere
Mar 11th 2019
53
I'm glad you bring up Aziz because he was a lesson for the country
Mar 11th 2019
55
      who the fuck is we?
Mar 11th 2019
57
      The country.
Mar 11th 2019
60
           your hallucinations are not a country.
Mar 11th 2019
61
           but you can't possibly know tho
Mar 16th 2019
110
      He's headlining a world tour right now, though
Mar 11th 2019
63
           Yeah I think cooler heads prevailed with Aziz.
Mar 12th 2019
75
                who was the hotter head that didn't prevail exactly?
Mar 12th 2019
76
                     I haven’t read that since it came out so maybe you’re right.
Mar 13th 2019
90
                          it's just weird
Mar 14th 2019
105
I might return to the art if I can mentally separate it from the person
Mar 11th 2019
54
Cancel Culture is the lamest mess ever.
Mar 11th 2019
56
LMAO, thank you for this
Mar 11th 2019
64
Man the pendulum swings back and forth on everything.
Mar 12th 2019
65
my man.
Mar 12th 2019
66
imagine being friends with a fuckin snitch
Mar 12th 2019
67
^^Just admitted to fantasizing about being my friend
Mar 12th 2019
69
      yes, I do occasionally have nightmares.
Mar 12th 2019
72
What are you going to blackmail them for?
Mar 13th 2019
86
      It's a joke bruh bruh.
Mar 13th 2019
89
           A few OKPs apparently don't 'get' humor
Mar 13th 2019
92
           D'Angelo Russell type dude over here
Mar 13th 2019
101
           Oh, you mean you weren't seriously going to extort them for money
Mar 13th 2019
102
there is no plan.
Mar 12th 2019
68
What is getting eliminated?
Mar 12th 2019
70
      the #muterkelly movement
Mar 12th 2019
71
           do you have trouble playing r kelly when you want to hear him?
Mar 12th 2019
73
           I've never been a fan of his music,
Mar 12th 2019
77
                so there is no cancel problem. cool. thank you.
Mar 13th 2019
79
           His music isn't gone, though
Mar 13th 2019
82
                I hadn't read the whole thread before posting.
Mar 13th 2019
87
It's really interesting.
Mar 12th 2019
74
on this note: Johnny Depp
Mar 12th 2019
78
what receipts?
Mar 13th 2019
80
      Right, he gave a batshit interview to Rolling Stone
Mar 13th 2019
83
      I haven't seen a johnny depp movie since edward scissorhands
Mar 15th 2019
109
      I dunno, surveillance camera videos?
Mar 13th 2019
84
           did you notice everyone cited in that article
Mar 14th 2019
108
fucking cancel culture even hits videogames wtf
Mar 13th 2019
81
for using COKE?! LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Mar 13th 2019
85
This is very much a Japan thing; curious how Sega of America acts
Mar 13th 2019
99
Hopefully not for too much longer.
Mar 13th 2019
88
lol at people acting like
Mar 13th 2019
91
Master of None didn't get killed at all
Mar 13th 2019
97
who killed louis ck's show and how did they do it?
Mar 13th 2019
100
Cancel Culture is performative wokeness and its trash...
Mar 13th 2019
93
Wait, is "cancel culture" just criticizing another person?
Mar 13th 2019
98
That "whataboutism" idea as a negative is really odd.
Mar 13th 2019
94
It's not that people are against equality....
Mar 13th 2019
96
      Oh that's exactly what it is.
Mar 14th 2019
104
           Thank you! Cats get me with the double standard.
Mar 14th 2019
106
           what up boogie
Mar 14th 2019
107
           You see it
Mar 17th 2019
114
It should be apparent that social media mobs don't make plans
Mar 13th 2019
103
art and culture manufactured and pre-approved by the state
Mar 16th 2019
111
what the fuck
Mar 16th 2019
112
the short term plan of cancel culture is to get trump re-elected in 2020
Mar 17th 2019
113
Louis Vuitton Removing Michael Jackson-Themed Clothing
Mar 17th 2019
115
I just turned on my TV and the cosby show was on
Apr 01st 2019
116

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