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Walleye
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4. "That does seem to be the case"
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I think we're at least a generation removed from needing to convince our opponents of anything, politically. We've got more people, after all.

Anyhow, the thing I'm thinking of is this weird Daily Caller article about Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. The author's horror at the potential popularity of her positions is really telling: these are things people want. She's pretty much exactly who you're describing, but it's incredibly jarring to see her accidentally unpack the moral horror her position:

"I saw how easy it would be, as a parent, to accept the idea that my children deserve healthcare and education.

I saw how easy it would be, as someone who has struggled to make ends meet, to accept the idea that a “living wage” was a human right."

In the face of grotesque tax cuts for the wealthy and a military budget that dwarfs like the next dozen countries combined, all she's left with is having to say "free healthcare, education, and a living wage aren't good." And she's going to. And people more important than her are going to. But since she's wrong, and since her positions are going to create more and more people who desperately need those things, the "socialism or barbarism" distinction is going to get more and more clear.

We're going to win. It'll just be slow and hard.

http://dailycaller.com/2018/07/23/conservative-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-rally/

I’M A CONSERVATIVE, AND I WENT TO AN ALEXANDRIA OCASIO-CORTEZ RALLY
1:22 PM 07/23/2018
Virginia Kruta | Associate Editor

On Saturday evening, Democratic congressional candidate Cori Bush held a rally in celebration of her birthday. Bush, who is running in the Aug. 7 primary against seven-term incumbent William “Lacy” Clay Jr. in Missouri’s First Congressional District (St. Louis), brought in some star power for the event: Democratic socialist and Bronx native Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

Over the years, I have attended my share of political events: tea party protests, a Rick Perry speech on tax cuts, a Ted Cruz rally, and even a speech given by President Donald Trump earlier this year. But nothing prepared me for the stark difference in tone.

Bush’s rally packed a few hundred friends and activists into a bar called the Ready Room in St. Louis, and almost from the moment I walked through the door, I was surrounded by a group of women who were discussing over drinks the reasons they had gotten involved in politics — the two things they all had in common were anger and fear. One even said, “I just couldn’t stand being angry and afraid all the time.”

As the rally kicked off, a series of invited guests took the stage, each sharing the reasons that they supported Bush. Several mentioned the Ferguson protests — which began after police officer Darren Wilson shot Michael Brown on Aug. 9, 2014 — and recalled being tear-gassed and arrested alongside Bush.

Others invoked the “Israeli occupation of Palestine” while still others told stories of “woke” grandchildren who asked over pancakes whether ICE was going to come and arrest them.

One even praised the strength and dedication of convicted cop-killer Assata Shakur — while Ocasio-Cortez (who was waiting in the wings) and Bush nodded along.

But then Ocasio-Cortez spoke, followed by Bush, and I saw something truly terrifying. I saw just how easy it would be, were I less involved and less certain of our nation’s founding and its history, to fall for the populist lines they were shouting from that stage.

I saw how easy it would be, as a parent, to accept the idea that my children deserve healthcare and education.

I saw how easy it would be, as someone who has struggled to make ends meet, to accept the idea that a “living wage” was a human right.
Above all, I saw how easy it would be to accept the notion that it was the government’s job to make sure that those things were provided.
I watched as both Ocasio-Cortez and Bush deftly chopped America up into demographics, pointed out how those demographics had been victimized under the current system, and then promised to be the voice for those demographics. The movement, Ocasio-Cortez shouted, “knows no zip code. It knows no state. It knows no race. It knows no gender. It knows no documented status.”

Bush, after saying her piece, noted that she had been careful to allow speakers from across all demographics to make it clear that she was not running to represent just one particular group, but all.

I left the rally with a photo — in part to remind myself of that time I crashed a rally headlined by a socialist, but also in part to remind myself that there, but for the grace of God, go I.

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"Walleye, a lot of things are going to go wrong in your life that technically aren't your fault. Always remember that this doesn't make you any less of an idiot"

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DSA in Vox: Medicare for All means something, and it's good [View all] , Walleye, Wed Jul-25-18 10:42 AM
 
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I feel like that compromise IS the M4A we're going to get, though
Jul 25th 2018
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I'm just now appreciating the freedom in my irrelevance
Jul 25th 2018
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      I doubt this really bothers those in opposition
Jul 25th 2018
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      MN's number one employer is United Health
Jul 25th 2018
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           Yeah, I'm just glad the M4A bills try to address this (edit)
Jul 25th 2018
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           That's actually not a bad way of framing it
Jul 25th 2018
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           And, right on time for this conversation...
Jul 25th 2018
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