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auragin_boi
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25. "Reasonable means affordable....As an HR professional...sometimes"
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Thu Jun-14-18 01:31 PM by auragin_boi

  

          

I think people overthink this stuff.

We have a range. If you fall above that range you're typically out unless we REALLY need you, then we'll pay above range. But ultimately, we don't offer below preference as it increases the chance for buyers remorse.

If you fall below that range, a good HR department will pay you bottom of the range (which would still be a raise on your expectations). This keeps the role competitive and makes the numbers look reasonable when comp evaluations happen/go to market. This prevents having to give you too much of a raise when we see your salary is below market since you're now more valuable to the company with more experience which might open up more risk to lose you to a competitive offer.

Also, giving someone more than they ask for is endearing (or should be) and helps with retention.

A more murky HR department will give you what you ask for (though it's below market) and point at it to upper management for brownie points. But that's counterproductive IMO because long term it could cause problems that out price the initial savings on salary (morale, turnover, competition). Granted 'what they don't know won't hurt 'em' but we are in the info age. People can find out what's competitive and headhunters flirt all the time.

All this to say...ask for what you want and if a company balks at it, move along to one that will give you what you want. No need to waste time wondering if you could have gotten more either. Get what you want and if you want more later, prove your worth and make a strong case for it or move on for an opportunity that provides it.

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"What are your salary requirements?" "Oh, that's reasonable" : ( [View all] , tully_blanchard, Thu Jun-14-18 11:59 AM
 
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as opposed to silence?
Jun 14th 2018
1
LOL..i guess silence and a slow blink would be worse, huh??
Jun 14th 2018
3
had a guy quote an hourly rate.. then say its salary
Jun 14th 2018
8
Better than "we're only budgeted to go up to x"
Jun 14th 2018
2
Uh no it's not. Getting them to say a number first is a win.
Jun 14th 2018
5
means you’re in range...
Jun 14th 2018
4
Knowing the company, I don't think so
Jun 14th 2018
9
      gotcha...
Jun 14th 2018
16
That's always the concern in any negotiation
Jun 14th 2018
6
i hate that question
Jun 14th 2018
7
consider it a good thing if you were honest and realistic about your req...
Jun 14th 2018
10
salary or hourly? which do you prefer?
Jun 14th 2018
11
I've never had an hourly job professionally.
Jun 14th 2018
18
Yes. Yes it is.
Jun 14th 2018
12
yes...you lowballed yourself
Jun 14th 2018
13
counter-offer when they offer you the job
Jun 14th 2018
14
Is this how to do it? Seriously, just had this convo about what to
Jun 14th 2018
21
      if you feel like you are worth/deserve more, counter-offer
Jun 14th 2018
28
      I burned my old gig
Jun 14th 2018
34
           man, i'm one of the lowest paid on my team as well
Jun 15th 2018
36
      in fact, i've had 3 people come to me for this sort of advice
Jun 14th 2018
29
Poor response on their part
Jun 14th 2018
15
curious, where are you in the interviewing process?
Jun 14th 2018
17
First/final.
Jun 14th 2018
19
      few things...
Jun 14th 2018
20
           RE: few things...
Jun 14th 2018
22
                well shit, get that paper and move on up!
Jun 14th 2018
26
this is why i like nonprofits. their top salaries are public info
Jun 14th 2018
23
if the range is say.. 50K to 60K. Is it crazy to say 65K?
Jun 14th 2018
24
nope.
Jun 14th 2018
27
      haha...I'm trying to change my approach
Jun 14th 2018
30
           okp snark and bullshit aside...
Jun 14th 2018
32
                thx, I'm transitioning.
Jun 14th 2018
33
Right, all that matters is if you are happy with the number
Jun 14th 2018
31
had this recently where in the app i put a range
Jun 14th 2018
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