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bwood
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30. "My full spoiler free thoughts."
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Marvel Studios deserves a round of applause for pulling this off. We are moving towards an end of an era, and that starts here. Keyword starts. Avengers: Infinity War highlights the strengths and weakness of ten years of living in this cinematic universe.

Thanos has been teased now for six years since he popped up in the first Avengers film. It was worth the build-up as not only from the first frame do we get how big of a threat he is, but we see what makes him tick. Thanos’ reasoning for doing what he’s doing makes sense. It’s horrifying for sure, but I was so worried he was gonna be a mustache-twirling villain, but he’s fully realized and fleshed. Walking out I understood why Josh Brolin said he got more out of playing Thanos than playing Cable. Much credit is due his way for a really incredible performance.

Once this film starts, it keeps moving. I can say that there’s not a wasted moment in this as the film has a lot to accomplish. For those of you who have theories on the Soul Stone, throw them out the window. One of the biggest surprises as well as emotional beats in this film comes from the Soul Stone sequence. That sequence is important on why you have had to see every single MCU film up until this point as this film makes references big and small to what’s come before.

The Russo brothers deserve a lot of credit for making this film works. The film consistently shifts from funny to super dark walking a tightrope that could’ve teetered into a mess. Part of what makes this work is the handheld camera work that’s being used. The shots and the way the camera moves makes this the most cinematic Avengers film thus far. It’s true that the first two Avengers films have a television film type quality to them, but here Joe and Anthony make you feel the stakes. The scope of this thing is so big, I understand now why every frame of this was shot in IMAX.

With that said, this film does have its problems. Look, the ending here will have you shocked, I’m still shocked by it. But this is only a part of a whole. I’m frustrated that this didn’t exactly have an ending. One of the most referenced sequels of all time The Empire Strikes Back, has a beginning, middle, and end despite its various cliffhangers. Same goes for The Last Jedi. To even further this point each film in The Lord of the Rings trilogy has a beginning, middle, and end despite the fact that it’s one narrative. You can clearly tell this is Infinity War Part 1 before Marvel Studios decided to ditch that for now obvious reasons. Look, whatever Avengers 4 (Infinity War Part 2) is gonna be called, I can go back and judge this as a whole instead of the sum of its parts.

I don’t really like the split narratives either. The Guardians are split up with Thor and going on their own quest eventually meeting up with a group of Avengers. And the rest of the Avengers are globetrotting place to place. I understand why this had to happen as there are so many characters in the MCU (two of which do not appear at all and their absence is mentioned), but this also took the wind out of the sails at times as some stories became less interesting than the others.

The children of Thanos cannot match Thanos’ presence. They are uber-powered stand-ins with no depth to them. In fact, I wondered why were they in the film in the first place. Thanos has a generic army of aliens (not a good thing) for our heroes to punch, these guys added nothing other than getting three of our heroes out into space and setting a trap for later.

And while there are some very cool setpieces, some had me glaze over after a while. I know people are getting tired of CG cities being knocked over, well sorry to say that this has multiple cities being leveled. And speaking of, they gotta do something with the Netflix characters (the whole of Marvel TV in general) cause it’s so distracting to see Midtown under attack and not see the Defenders join in.

Look this works more often than it doesn’t. I enjoyed the film, just not as much as I would have hoped (that’s the problem with hype). With Black Panther literally just having been released upon the world, it’s a tough act for Infinity War to follow. Even more so considering that that’s one of the best comic book films made yet. Moving forward this will have serious consequences and that ending has me wondering just where do they go from here. Seriously, if I was a screenwriter, I’d be lost on how exactly do I resolve this. And going forward one this Marvel and DC should consider is having their heroes meet earlier in solo films or have certain characters costar like Hulk did in Thor: Ragnarok. Avoid everything until you are able to lay eyes on this. You don’t want this spoiled for you.

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Avengers: Infinity War is not playing around. [View all] , bwood, Mon Apr-23-18 09:54 PM
 
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I might have to log off the internet until Friday.. I'm not trying to pl...
Apr 23rd 2018
1
I'm just going to have to give up on spoilers for this one
Apr 23rd 2018
4
my son is wondering one thing is Corg in it?
Apr 23rd 2018
2
Interesting
Apr 23rd 2018
3
It seems from your hashtag that Marvel got Thanos right
Apr 23rd 2018
5
Zemo, Ego, Vulture, & Kilmonger were all great, imo
Apr 23rd 2018
6
I haven’t seen BP yet but I’ve heard Killmonger was a good villain
Apr 24th 2018
7
Loki's all-tims top tier IMO.
Apr 24th 2018
8
      Loki is tough to judge because he is more anti-hero than true villain
Apr 24th 2018
9
           that's also true for Kilmonger
Apr 24th 2018
10
                sympathetic and charismatic villains
Apr 24th 2018
17
Guess I should go watch Thor huh
Apr 24th 2018
11
I did.. it was too jokey for me
Apr 24th 2018
12
I feel like the jokey is what they needs
Apr 24th 2018
15
I love Taika Waititi's sensibility.
Apr 24th 2018
16
RE: I did.. it was too jokey for me-me too...and I got crucified for it,...
Apr 24th 2018
28
      and rightfully so.
Apr 25th 2018
32
           It's "Ragnarok Saturday Night" ...smh...gotta watch it again tho
Apr 25th 2018
33
It's only the greatest movie ever made
Apr 24th 2018
13
Ragnarok is mandatory
Apr 24th 2018
19
I have IMAX tickets for Thursday and
Apr 24th 2018
14
So stupid question I keep having about this world
Apr 24th 2018
18
spider-man alludes to this, and the netflix series mention it
Apr 24th 2018
20
Ordinary citizens of the MCU must be suffering from a great deal of PTSD...
Apr 24th 2018
21
The main reason I hated Man of Steel
Apr 24th 2018
22
They've alluded to the destruction a couple times
Apr 24th 2018
23
it's come up a lot over the years
Apr 24th 2018
24
fascinating
Apr 24th 2018
26
I remember it was a big part of the spiderman homecoming movie
Apr 30th 2018
62
I actually appreciated all that destruction in the Man of Steel
Apr 24th 2018
25
      DC actually caught a lot of flak over that
Apr 24th 2018
27
      Man, that shit was flames.
Apr 24th 2018
31
           its not that
Apr 26th 2018
37
      The "World Machine" was my favorite part of MoS
Apr 24th 2018
29
           "World Engine" but yeah that was my favorite part of it too
Apr 30th 2018
55
I agree with that you definitely need to see ALL the MCU films to fully....
Apr 27th 2018
41
I didn't watch ant man or dark world
Apr 27th 2018
42
The LAST thing I'd want to see is Jessica Jones in a big screen flick.
May 04th 2018
104
Anyone going tonight?
Apr 26th 2018
34
tix for 8pm tonight, i get off at 11 today, im ready
Apr 26th 2018
35
7:30 tonight IMAX
Apr 26th 2018
36
I’m still trying to process it all...
Apr 27th 2018
38
I told you it's a lot.
Apr 27th 2018
39
      It legit felt like a chess match
Apr 27th 2018
40
      i was legit angry/sad at the end
Apr 27th 2018
43
           The ending didn't hit me until.....(spoiler)
Apr 28th 2018
46
                MAN.
May 04th 2018
105
Longo beat me to it in PTP (spoilers)
Apr 27th 2018
44
yep....but look at it this way. (spoiler warning)
Apr 28th 2018
45
      I was thinking that...
Apr 30th 2018
56
Here is all the movies prior in a quality timeline
Apr 28th 2018
47
massive undertaking, and unreal they even pulled it off
Apr 28th 2018
48
who else went crazy when Dr. Strange used the Cyttorak bands?
Apr 29th 2018
49
So was that red skull guarding the soul stone?
Apr 29th 2018
50
Yup that was him
Apr 29th 2018
51
      Oceans 52
Apr 29th 2018
52
Anybody catch Thanos pull an asteroid in from space
Apr 30th 2018
53
I definitely noticed that
Apr 30th 2018
54
yea, i had a quick nerdgasm with that
Apr 30th 2018
60
I think it was a moon? and then stark says "moon" later
Apr 30th 2018
65
      yeah, nigga pulled the whole moon down.
Apr 30th 2018
86
They took it back to old school horror movie days (spoilers)
Apr 30th 2018
57
I don't think I've ever seen the Hulk get beat down like that on film
Apr 30th 2018
75
      Yeah I don't think he's ever been...
Apr 30th 2018
83
I love this movie now, but I’m not going to love it
Apr 30th 2018
58
liked it...alot...sorta mad i figured out the next movie plot
Apr 30th 2018
59
As someone who hasn't seen the previous movies...
Apr 30th 2018
61
RE: As someone who hasn't seen the previous movies...
Apr 30th 2018
63
Just Black Panther
Apr 30th 2018
64
I'd advise not doing it. just pick the characters you like after
Apr 30th 2018
67
      i wouldn't tell anyone to watch all of them
Apr 30th 2018
72
           the problem with pushing people to watch them is I think they'll get
Apr 30th 2018
73
                agreed
Apr 30th 2018
78
goddamn you're slow on the uptake.
Apr 30th 2018
66
im thinking he means more of the relationships between them
Apr 30th 2018
71
      that's not even true imo
Apr 30th 2018
76
           Stark and Parker, Gamora and Quill
Apr 30th 2018
89
                I completely disagree
Apr 30th 2018
90
you're gonna be lost in the sauce...I didn't realize that ALL of the
Apr 30th 2018
68
Yeah that's basically all it was to me
Apr 30th 2018
69
um, there's no additional meaning.
Apr 30th 2018
70
      I didn't pay attention to nor could ever tell the relevance of the infin...
Apr 30th 2018
74
           ...they don't have any other meaning.
Apr 30th 2018
77
                the infinity stones are still a blur to me
Apr 30th 2018
79
                the infinity stones kinda break the story
Apr 30th 2018
81
                no argument from me
Apr 30th 2018
80
If you jump in on the 18th entry of a series brimming with moving parts....
Apr 30th 2018
84
I can't quite understand the people who spent 10 years
Apr 30th 2018
87
haha.. no
Apr 30th 2018
85
Hmmm... If I had to do a primer for IW, I'd recommend watching
Apr 30th 2018
82
Something that has confused me about the timeline
Apr 30th 2018
88
They messed up the timelines
Apr 30th 2018
91
I suppose this is confirmation
Apr 30th 2018
92
RE: Something that has confused me about the timeline
May 04th 2018
106
Did ___ really ___ at the end of the movie? SPOILERS
Apr 30th 2018
93
Doug E. Doug is listed in those credits, man.
Apr 30th 2018
95
      RE: Doug E. Doug is listed in those credits, man.
Apr 30th 2018
96
      We need an album tonight.
Apr 30th 2018
99
Two observations and a question (spoilers)
Apr 30th 2018
94
RE: Two observations and a question (SPOILER)
Apr 30th 2018
97
      oh wow...thanks!
Apr 30th 2018
98
           RE: oh wow...thanks!
May 01st 2018
100
Spoilers within
May 01st 2018
101
I loved the movie, but I agree
May 01st 2018
102
Comic readers don't know that though
May 03rd 2018
103
I still think they should've sacrificed Vision, all that bs about...
Apr 27th 2019
107

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