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127. "he wanted to be an owner. now whines about it."
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http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/25/opinions/trump-tweets-revenge-on-nfl-pearlman/index.html


(CNN)"Let him buy an NFL team and then he can decide who gets fired ... He can't fire anybody and that's the funny thing about it. He just doesn't have control over us and that's what bothers him the most, I think."
— Chris Long, Philadelphia Eagles defensive tackle
The three men met inside a suite in New York City's Pierre Hotel.

There was Pete Rozelle, the NFL's longtime commissioner.
There was Donald Trump, Manhattan-based real estate mogul and owner of the New Jersey Generals of the United States Football League, which was in its second year.

There was Leslie Schupak, senior managing partner at KCSA Worldwide, the USFL's marketing and public relations firm. I spoke with Schupak on multiple occasions last year as I was reporting my eighth book, a look back at the long-defunct USFL.

The meeting, held in March 1984, concerned Trump's desire to possess an NFL franchise. Although he owned the Generals and spoke publicly of his love for the USFL, Trump (according to many people who knew him) anxiously wanted to ditch the upstart for the money and fame of the bigger league. Hence, said Schupak, Trump invited Rozelle (a man he knew casually through scattered social encounters) to meet, and had Schupak -- with whom he had bonded -- tag along.

Schupak remembered it well. "They arrive, and even before Pete can stop talking on a casual basis, Donald starts his diatribe on how great he (Trump) would be for the NFL, and what it would mean to the NFL to have him as a franchise owner," he said. "Donald is going on in his typical style, telling Pete Rozelle what he believes in, why he would be wonderful. It was typical Donald, in that Rozelle couldn't get a word in."

According to Schupak, Rozelle, who died in 1996, seemed to be under the impression Trump extended the invite to discuss relations between the two leagues. When he realized what Trump was after, he turned cold and blunt. "Mr. Trump," Rozelle told him, according to Schupak, "as long as I or any of my heirs are involved in the NFL, you will never be a franchise owner in the league."

The meeting ended shortly thereafter. Not surpisingly, Trump remembered the meeting very differently, in testimony he gave in 1984 during the USFL's antitrust case against the NFL (which we will get back to shortly). Trump told jurors that Rozelle promised him an NFL franchise. He did not get one. Donald Trump was never a franchise owner in the NFL.

When many people first heard the President's comments in Alabama about owners needing to fire those who dare kneel during the national anthem, they presumed the words stemmed from racism.

No question, Trump has made it plain over the years where he stands. From calling for a return of the death penalty after the arrest of the Central Park Five (and continuing to believe in their guilt even after DNA exoneration) to spending five years insisting Barack Obama was a Kenyan-born Muslim, to the recent Charlottesville vileness, Trump's history with regard to African-Americans, and indeed anyone who's not white, is dreadful.

Yet if Trump's anti-NFL stance is race-driven, it is also driven by an impulse that is arguably stronger, more personal and more difficult for him to control in himself: payback.

See, Donald J. Trump does not do "no" well. He never has. In his mind, he is a winner; a champion; a "really smart" person, and a vanquisher of those who oppose him. As we have seen repeatedly, he will stomp you and pummel you if you get in the way of his goals.

Real estate empire? Check.
Reality TV dominance? Check.
Presidency? Check.
NFL owner? Never.

Trump first tried to purchase an NFL team in 1981, when he fronted a group that offered $50 million to buy the then-Baltimore Colts from Robert Irsay. When contacted by United Press International at the time, Trump said, "I have not given any offers for the team. Neither was I part of a group that did." This was categorically untrue. Irsay simply rejected the offer.

Four years later, as he loaded the Generals with one ex-NFL star after another, Trump (according to multiple interviews I've conducted) allegedly schemed to have the USFL fold and the NFL absorb his franchise for New York City. When that dream crashed, Trump convinced his fellow USFL owners to sue the NFL for anti-trust violations. He assured his peers that a victory was in the bag -- and he was right.
A jury awarded the USFL $1. With that, it was dead after three seasons.

In 1988, according to the Boston Globe, Trump had an opportunity to purchase the New England Patriots for approximately $80 million. Then Trump learned he would inherit the debts of the previous ownership -- and pulled out. It remains one of the worst business decisions of his life. The organization is now worth more than $3 billion, according to Forbes.

Finally, in 2014, Trump made a hard push to buy the Buffalo Bills. He found himself bidding against Terry Pegula, a natural gas billionaire who also owned the NHL's Buffalo Sabres. The organization was valued at $870 million, and Trump offered less than a billion. When Pegula came back with $1.4 billion, Trump once again shuffled away empty handed.

He did not, however, shuffle quietly. On October 10, 2014, the Bills had a press conference to introduce their new owner. Three hundred and seventy miles away in Manhattan, Trump tweeted while he watched Pegula speak. For some, it might ring familiar...
"The only reason I bid on @buffalobills was to make sure they stayed in Buffalo, where they belong. Mission accomplished."

The only reason I bid on @buffalobills was to make sure they stayed in Buffalo, where they belong. Mission accomplished.
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 10, 2014

And then:
"Wow. @nfl ratings are down big league. Glad I didn't get the Bills. Rather be lucky than good."

Wow. @nfl ratings are down big league. Glad I didn't get the Bills. Rather be lucky than good.
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 10, 2014

When Trump began his run of tweets about the NFL this past weekend, many suggested that the league was serving as a handy target for the President to dog-whistle about to his base; that, with his high-risk North Korea chest-pounding, and Jared Kushner's emails, and the Russia investigation looming, he saw the sport and its players as convenient distractions.
Truth be told, Donald Trump views the league as he does Jeb Bush and Hillary Clinton and anyone who dare stand in his path.

He sees it as an enemy.

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

  

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so.. bigots AND Kap supporters are boycotting the NFL? [View all] , legsdiamond, Mon Sep-11-17 09:28 AM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
Sounds like a good thing. They need to feel it in their pockets
Sep 11th 2017
1
I doubt they will tho...
Sep 11th 2017
2
same, but you never know.
Sep 11th 2017
3
      yeah, this isn't the same thing at all fam
Sep 11th 2017
4
           my point is sometimes a small movement grows into a larger one
Sep 11th 2017
5
hurt pockets or not...
Sep 11th 2017
7
I was talking to a lady at work...
Sep 11th 2017
6
"that aint my fight"
Sep 11th 2017
8
why?
Sep 11th 2017
10
it's dismissive of fights that should be everyone's fight
Sep 11th 2017
13
      whats your justification for not boycotting?
Sep 11th 2017
14
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veOlmLR8uas
Sep 11th 2017
17
      not my preferred method of caring
Sep 11th 2017
51
           Word
Sep 11th 2017
57
      let's agree to disagree..
Sep 11th 2017
20
           not my fight sounds like people are saying its not in their place to do
Sep 11th 2017
26
                one earth and a billion realities Cen
Sep 11th 2017
29
                women's wage equality? Not my fight
Sep 11th 2017
62
                     Bruh.. she really is All Lives Matter tho
Sep 11th 2017
65
                     wow
Sep 13th 2017
89
                          except...you intrepret what I typed incorrectly ...
Sep 25th 2017
110
                     I understand...
Sep 11th 2017
78
                exactly
Sep 11th 2017
49
In the history of responses, even...
Sep 11th 2017
30
out of respect for all the other players taking a knee this year
Sep 11th 2017
9
Does watching not feel weird to you?
Sep 11th 2017
22
      if I may...
Sep 11th 2017
27
      I'm not moved. I'm offended and black
Sep 11th 2017
31
      maybe you aren't aware of the goings on in the NFL
Sep 11th 2017
74
      well, its' pretty easy to reconcile because it's football..
Sep 11th 2017
33
           RE: well, its' pretty easy to reconcile because it's football..
Sep 11th 2017
35
                As a Steeler fan I feel real good about the owners of my team
Sep 11th 2017
38
                     One thing that can't be taken away from ya'll
Sep 11th 2017
39
                     also the first Black QB in the NFL after the AFL-NFL merger in 1974
Sep 11th 2017
40
                     Fair enough.
Sep 11th 2017
45
                          definitely.. but I will watch another game if I feel like it
Sep 11th 2017
48
All lives matter lmao
Sep 11th 2017
18
      you corny nm
Sep 11th 2017
21
      Duh.
Sep 11th 2017
23
      Your all lives matter angle is much worse
Sep 11th 2017
58
           leg's...it's not a sales pitch
Sep 11th 2017
60
                Don't care. Saying All Lives is dumb as redundant and unnecessary
Sep 11th 2017
68
                     like going to a leukemia march and screaming
Sep 11th 2017
75
                          lmao.. right?
Sep 12th 2017
81
      damn
Sep 11th 2017
54
explain like i'm 5: tv ratings
Sep 11th 2017
11
do they need Neilson boxes since they went digital?
Sep 11th 2017
12
never understood nielsen ratings. Always felt outdated and inaccurate.
Sep 11th 2017
16
Your viewership doesn't matter if I'm not mistaken re:nielson
Sep 11th 2017
19
Stastistics analysis.
Sep 11th 2017
24
for me it's not the ratings.
Sep 11th 2017
32
from what i understand....
Sep 11th 2017
77
does the NFL earn revenue for eyes on screen or from advertisements
Sep 11th 2017
15
yup, I ain't going to any games...
Sep 11th 2017
25
      yep...and this is the 1st year where i can legit go to multiple games
Sep 11th 2017
28
      I have no desire to go to an NFL game
Sep 11th 2017
34
not that it matters, (maybe it does)
Sep 11th 2017
36
not for nothin but the Sunday Night Football anthem kills that.
Sep 11th 2017
37
Damn they brought him back
Sep 11th 2017
41
ESPN fired all those folks and brought him back? smh...
Sep 11th 2017
42
      Exactly.
Sep 11th 2017
46
nobody gonna care
Sep 11th 2017
43
Jerry Jones is disappointed if you don't stand
Sep 11th 2017
44
Who the NFL appeases to will tell you which fans they care about
Sep 11th 2017
47
women? White women?
Sep 11th 2017
50
that's been the case since forever tho
Sep 11th 2017
52
      also much more turnover in the NFL
Sep 11th 2017
53
           it's not 'talking shit'...i GUARANTEE a whole heap of niggas could care
Sep 11th 2017
55
                Poor choice of words on my part.
Sep 11th 2017
56
                     it's the mindset...10-15 outta ___
Sep 11th 2017
61
                          Damn, I watched the Cleveland game but missed the beginning
Sep 11th 2017
63
                          how are basketball players not as easily 'replaced'... ESPECIALLY in
Sep 11th 2017
70
                               Bruh, how do you replace a Lebron or a Steph?
Sep 11th 2017
73
                          I agree that mindset and indoctrination is a big part of it
Sep 11th 2017
66
                          agreed...but they don't need ALL or even most...hell barely some
Sep 11th 2017
71
                               True
Sep 11th 2017
72
                          ***cough***. What a day
Sep 23rd 2017
93
I support Colin but I still watch
Sep 11th 2017
59
Yup... and honestly
Sep 11th 2017
76
basically
Sep 12th 2017
84
      "it was on where I was but I ain't pay attention"
Sep 12th 2017
86
           i watched but kept the tv on mute
Sep 12th 2017
87
           'i had it on in the background but i was doin other stuff'
Sep 12th 2017
88
                my sister has it and gave me her other pass for my phone
Sep 13th 2017
90
easiest boycott of my life.
Sep 11th 2017
64
hmm... I see this a lot
Sep 11th 2017
67
Like rednecks in Missouri boycotting Hamilton
Sep 12th 2017
82
      yup, somehow they will feel it on Broadway tho.. somehow
Sep 12th 2017
85
RE: easiest boycott of my life.
Sep 12th 2017
83
Exactly.
Sep 24th 2017
102
just bet on it... fk watching it
Sep 11th 2017
69
Still Unanswered: Why hasn't the NFL met with Kaepernick
Sep 11th 2017
79
thank you for your contribution
Sep 12th 2017
80
Really good article on Kap (too long to swipe)
Sep 13th 2017
91
Thx, looks like a good read.
Sep 13th 2017
92
Trump is making it harder to sit this debate out. for players especially...
Sep 23rd 2017
94
i see people who previously didnt like the players taking a knee
Sep 23rd 2017
95
michael rappaport been the voice of liberal america lately lol
Sep 23rd 2017
96
trump done got ray lewis to kneel
Sep 24th 2017
97
This fool on both knees.
Sep 24th 2017
98
      gotta make up for lost dignity.
Sep 24th 2017
99
aaron rogers just posted this on ig. look who else commented:
Sep 24th 2017
100
Even Kraft is “deeply disappointed” with 45’s comments.
Sep 24th 2017
101
fuck Robert Kraft.
Sep 24th 2017
103
This is turning out pretty awesome.
Sep 24th 2017
104
these dipshits booing during the anthem
Sep 24th 2017
105
yuuuup
Sep 24th 2017
107
Two national anthem singers take knees at NFL games
Sep 24th 2017
106
joe buck did some sucker shit during the eagles game.
Sep 24th 2017
108
so for all those who took a knee...they getting cut/blackballed or naw?
Sep 25th 2017
109
official cookout invitation: dale earnhardt jr + 1
Sep 25th 2017
111
give me a call when it gets violent
Sep 25th 2017
112
without knowing dick about nascar isn't he like
Sep 25th 2017
113
i think he is retiring this year too
Sep 25th 2017
114
Dale Jr been known the score. his fans ignore that tho
Sep 25th 2017
115
Drove them wild like AJ Foyt
Sep 25th 2017
116
Drove them wild like AJ Foyt
Sep 25th 2017
117
I wanna see more "Who gon check me?" kind of people stick their neck out
Sep 25th 2017
120
yesterday was cool as a display
Sep 25th 2017
118
Players been kneeling all preseason and during the season tho
Sep 25th 2017
119
it was, but def not to these numbers
Sep 25th 2017
123
Yup. Trumpito successfully changed the narrative
Sep 25th 2017
121
right nm
Sep 25th 2017
124
I don't think it's merely anti-Trump though.
Sep 26th 2017
132
the message is def being scrambled but this kinda stuff seems necessary
Sep 25th 2017
122
bitch you stupid
Sep 25th 2017
129
Nah
Sep 25th 2017
125
‘Unity’: The word the NFL is using to avoid talking about Colin Kaep...
Sep 25th 2017
126
Good read
Sep 25th 2017
130
Wow.
Sep 27th 2017
155
***walks in whistling*** Jerruh. ***walks out whistling***
Sep 25th 2017
128
Anybody mad at the 'Boys proves it wasn't about a flag/troops etc at all
Sep 25th 2017
131
ray lewis says ray lewis didnt take a knee. fires back at shannon.
Sep 27th 2017
133
sounds like a dude that killed somebody
Sep 27th 2017
134
this negro.. smh
Sep 27th 2017
135
I feel like Ray was trying to get brownie points with JB
Sep 27th 2017
136
Same rehearsed lines he gave on our local sports radio that morning.
Sep 27th 2017
137
I knew this fool was gonna spin it
Sep 27th 2017
138
the 'bad bitch hand' on full display ctfu
Sep 27th 2017
140
Big Ben wanted to be on the field not in the tunnel
Sep 27th 2017
139
This shit has jumped the shark. Time to find a new protest
Sep 27th 2017
141
it was never going to go anywhere anyway. White America needs race
Sep 27th 2017
142
You know we can't do shit without it getting co-opted
Sep 27th 2017
143
LOL throw in the towel
Sep 27th 2017
144
Try again....with something else
Sep 27th 2017
145
      kinda like..idk....the anthem b4 events and the flag?
Sep 27th 2017
146
      Yeah the anthem before games is absolutely meaningless
Sep 27th 2017
147
      What happens when they co-opt that ?
Sep 27th 2017
149
           double down.. not like Ray Ray but yeah, keep kneeling
Sep 27th 2017
150
                Exactly
Sep 27th 2017
151
                     I knew that punk Ray Ray was on both knees for a reason.
Sep 27th 2017
154
                          LOL
Oct 08th 2017
157
nope.. fuck that. Trump ain't win shit
Sep 27th 2017
148
      that's my concern.
Sep 27th 2017
152
           yeah, well this is when we find out what these players are made of
Sep 27th 2017
153
Jerrah throws down the gauntlet. I wanna see Dax or Zeke kneel
Oct 08th 2017
156
RE: Jerrah throws down the gauntlet. I wanna see Dax or Zeke kneel
Oct 08th 2017
158
this about to be interesting...
Oct 09th 2017
161
Pence with the pre-arranged outrage stunt today
Oct 08th 2017
159
Disrespecting the flag?
Oct 09th 2017
160
Model Outs Dolphins Coach Snorting Coke as Revenge Over Anthem Protests
Oct 09th 2017
162
Ha, but did the dude she put out actually do anything?
Oct 09th 2017
163
You mean other then snort cocaine and record it
Oct 09th 2017
165
prolly not....
Oct 09th 2017
166
"Fulyl responsibility" is a BULLSHIT term
Oct 09th 2017
164
good read https://theundefeated.com/features/nba-nfl-success/
Oct 23rd 2017
167
thanks, here is my thought on football vs the NBA
Oct 23rd 2017
168
20 years ago when niggas rocked baggy jeans maybe
Oct 23rd 2017
169
I'm from a baseball town and now live in a football town.
Oct 27th 2017
172
So it begins...
Oct 27th 2017
170
Can't have the patients running the asylum.
Oct 27th 2017
171
      True but folks are on edge and looking for any reason to be upset
Oct 27th 2017
173
At what point should they stop kneeling
Oct 27th 2017
174

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