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"Can we talk about millennial style activism? (link)"
Fri May-27-16 12:44 PM by PimpTrickGangstaClik

          

*shakes cane. Tells a punk to get off my lawn*

How do you all feel about this new environment where opposing/uncomfortable ideas are shouted down or silenced (i.e. Trump rally protests (or even Sanders/Clinton), banning/disrupting college speakers, etc.)?

Personally, I hate that shit. I just watched a clip of people shutting down some event (some edgy, gay conservative troll was speaking) at DePaul Univ and it was shameful. They rushed the stage taking the mic and some dude was blowing a whistle into it smh. Eventually, the event was cancelled after security wouldn't intervene.

Why is shutting down opposing speech the way to go? Wouldn't a better course of action be to push your own counter/better ideas?


Anyways, this article here kind of summarizes the new millennial style activist. It's an extreme campus (Oberlin), so it may not reflect the norm (they want guaranteed C's for the semester because they were protesting and want to be paid for their activism lol).
Long article (that made my head hurt lol), but here is a section that kind of gets to this point:

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/05/30/the-new-activism-of-liberal-arts-colleges


"During this academic year, schools across the country have been roiling with activism that has seemed to shift the meaning of contemporary liberalism without changing its ideals. At Yale, the associate head of a residence balked at the suggestion that students avoid potentially offensive Halloween costumes, proposing in an e-mail that it smothered transgressive expression. Her remarks were deemed insensitive, especially from someone tasked with fostering a sense of community, and the protests that followed escalated to address broader concerns. At Claremont McKenna, a dean sparked outrage when she sent an e-mail about better serving students—those of color, apparently—who didn’t fit the school’s “mold,” and resigned. In mid-November, a thousand students at Ithaca College walked out to demand the resignation of the president, who, they said, hadn’t responded aggressively enough to campus racism. More than a hundred other schools held rallies that week.

Protests continued through the winter. Harvard renamed its “house masters” faculty deans, and changed its law-school seal, which originated as a slaveholder’s coat of arms. Bowdoin students were disciplined for wearing miniature sombreros to a tequila-themed party. The president of Northwestern endorsed “safe spaces,” refuges open only to certain identity groups. At Wesleyan, the Eclectic Society, whose members lived in a large brick colonnaded house, was put on probation for two years, partly because its whimsical scrapbook-like application overstepped a line. And when Wesleyan’s newspaper, the Argus, published a controversial opinion piece questioning the integrity of the Black Lives Matter movement, some hundred and seventy people signed a petition that would have defunded the paper. Sensitivities seemed to reach a peak at Emory when students complained of being traumatized after finding “trump 2016” chalked on sidewalks around campus. The Trump-averse protesters chanted, “Come speak to us, we are in pain!,” until Emory’s president wrote a letter promising to “honor the concerns of these students.”

Such reports flummoxed many people who had always thought of themselves as devout liberals. Wasn’t free self-expression the whole point of social progressivism? Wasn’t liberal academe a way for ideas, good and bad, to be subjected to enlightened reason? Generations of professors and students imagined the university to be a temple for productive challenge and perpetually questioned certainties. Now, some feared, schools were being reimagined as safe spaces for coddled youths and the self-defined, untested truths that they held dear. Disorientingly, too, none of the disputes followed normal ideological divides: both the activists and their opponents were multicultural, educated, and true of heart. At some point, it seemed, the American left on campus stopped being able to hear itself think."

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/05/30/the-new-activism-of-liberal-arts-colleges

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Can we talk about millennial style activism? (link) [View all] , PimpTrickGangstaClik, Fri May-27-16 12:42 PM
 
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RE: Can we talk about millennial style activism? (link)
May 27th 2016
1
the issue is tolerance...
May 27th 2016
2
Exactly
May 28th 2016
34
frankly, that counter-narrative is really about shutting down the left
May 28th 2016
41
OP says he watched it happen at depaul, so...
May 28th 2016
56
stop posting under your alias
May 28th 2016
55
Yeah. I'm not talking about the legalities of it all...
May 27th 2016
11
at least you tried
May 27th 2016
25
Not just millenials, a lof of folks 30-40+ use those tactics as well
May 27th 2016
3
they will deactivate your account for speaking out of turn as well.
May 27th 2016
4
      i disagree with everything you just stated...
May 27th 2016
6
           well, what's this #70?
May 27th 2016
7
                you're really not payin' attention LOL...
May 27th 2016
8
                     you're wild thin-skinned, petty, dude.
May 27th 2016
9
                     well damn, that was fast as shit
May 27th 2016
10
                          RE: well damn, that was fast as shit
May 27th 2016
12
                               yet, you glossed over the part...
May 27th 2016
14
                               Yeah, but you fucked up
May 27th 2016
15
                                    he does have a point, albeit a convoluted one
May 27th 2016
20
                                    he doesn't have a point at all...
May 28th 2016
26
                                    He replied to a post that was about OKP
May 27th 2016
21
                                         he's currently on time out, yet ghosting with someone else's alias...
May 28th 2016
29
                     Giving him a "pass" for what, exactly?
May 27th 2016
22
                          you really have no clue what you're talking about LOL...
May 28th 2016
28
you lost me at "millenial"
May 27th 2016
5
It's rough. And the thing is I can't necessarily be mad at those kids
May 27th 2016
13
I can't get mad at them because they are on my side most of the time
May 27th 2016
16
I've seen this mentioned a few times on the web recently:
May 27th 2016
17
but doing the same thing as Right wing nuts makes them no better
May 27th 2016
18
its a disturbing trend.
May 27th 2016
19
you're a fucking idiot if you think anyone is getting shut down
May 27th 2016
23
Trump rally in Chicago, multiple commencement speakers getting cancelled
May 27th 2016
24
      ALL of those people ARE being heard. youth aren't the problem.
May 28th 2016
42
      What do you mean they are being heard?
May 28th 2016
57
           i think you're seriously underestimating the right.
May 28th 2016
62
           so if a message isn't actually being shut down at all
May 28th 2016
66
      so, the answer is you're an idiot.
May 28th 2016
50
      Wonderful contribution
May 28th 2016
52
           I know right?
May 28th 2016
53
      OMG COMMENCEMENT SPEAKERS CANCELLED
May 28th 2016
54
           Dogg...what are you foaming at the mouth about?
May 28th 2016
58
                they're not getting shut down
May 28th 2016
59
                     Did Donald Trump speak in Chicago?
May 28th 2016
60
                          is donald trump speaking constantly?
May 28th 2016
65
1984 shit. its scary. nm
May 28th 2016
27
Yep
May 28th 2016
40
leaving the protest feeling satisfied, buying some Starbucks w/
May 28th 2016
63
It feels like a capitulation to me...
May 28th 2016
30
i appreciate this explanation/opinion
May 28th 2016
31
I will agree that OKP mods be on smthg else
May 28th 2016
32
confessions should be off limits
May 28th 2016
35
you can't be serious...
May 28th 2016
37
      Serious as a heart attack
May 28th 2016
46
           Don't be no flashlight cop. Do your job...
May 28th 2016
48
                how could i forget about my brutha from anuth mutha DEADZOMBIE
May 28th 2016
49
                     So when did you first notice that you hate black people?
May 29th 2016
68
                     everything you just said is bullshit...
May 29th 2016
75
I've been dying for ppl to discuss this. I'm with you 100,000%
May 28th 2016
33
Social norms are moving the way they've always moved.
May 28th 2016
36
Nah. These strong-arm bully tactics are relatively new
May 28th 2016
38
It's never been for the good, and more extreme now. But
May 28th 2016
39
you know y'all are full of shit about this right?
May 28th 2016
43
      This makes me feel like we're talking about two completely different thi...
May 28th 2016
44
           the only difference is one is an imagined threat and one is a real one
May 28th 2016
45
                seems like you're conflating different things
May 28th 2016
64
                     It's a baby with the bathwater scenario
May 29th 2016
70
                          i feel you
May 29th 2016
71
                               the problem is that none of these posts (or the op-eds by concerned libe...
May 29th 2016
78
                                    good points
May 29th 2016
79
LOL
May 28th 2016
51
damn, you tried again after failing the first time
May 28th 2016
61
Cmon, this aint new to the 00s and 10s.
May 28th 2016
47
I haven't fact checked this, but if this is for real, its a great exampl...
May 29th 2016
67
There's also a false equivelency between right+left wing propaganda
May 29th 2016
69
the larger propaganda system definitley skews way right
May 29th 2016
72
im not sure if anyone is attempting to equate a 'mean girls' response
May 29th 2016
73
the problem is that most progressive movements ultimately devolve into.....
May 29th 2016
74
      i would be reluctant to believe an absolute like "power corrupts, period...
May 29th 2016
76
           indeed
May 29th 2016
77
You're right...
May 31st 2016
80

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