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astralblak
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47. "RE: How does that not address it?"
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Tue Jan-13-15 04:35 PM by astralblak

  

          

>Yes, Black people are only like 13% of the total US
>population, but TV shows are set in specific locations,
>usually locations where black people are a quarter or more of
>the population.
>
>Thus it isn't really over-representation of black people, it's
>an under-representation of locations between the coasts and
>outside of major cities.
>
>
simple answer, urban centers are not monoliths. Many are still very segregated in terms of race (tied to the component of class). A show taking place in Los Angeles could look many different ways and be about many different things related to race, ethnicity, and culture. You can walk Santa Monica for two hours and count 20 Black people and then drive 20min Southeast on the 10/405 chill at Fox Hills and see nothing but Black and Brown bodies, etc

But I think another element of JF's post is the types of representations. So many Black shows are tied to realities that are outdated or dishonest. A middle class black family will more than likely NOT live, work, and socialize with only Black people, yet shows are obsessively tied to this idea. It literally colors America as Black or White, and some times Brown/Latino, maybe an Asian or two.

so even with your caveat it is an over representation

Blacks are still tied to super successful middle class tropes, hood narratives, or token face(s) of spiritual guidance or comedic/cool relief.

I mean you made a great point in the other post that a show based on your life should work, but it would get tweaked to fit the modes and numbers of representation

"we're" over represented in the most cliche of ways

>Also, next time, why don't you try explaining what you mean
>instead of giving a short, cryptic answer. It makes you come
>across as confrontational for no reason.
>
one, because i don't have to. it's that simple. if my reply seemed cryptic, maybe that was the point. confrontational, no. that is more about you than me

two, i rarely go into long explanations on OKP, so it's not out of character for me

  

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Over/Underrepresented in the media [View all] , John Forte, Mon Jan-12-15 09:40 AM
 
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lol. your percentages are hilarious.
Jan 12th 2015
1
yes, I intentionally excluded Spanish language television
Jan 12th 2015
3
No it doesn't
Jan 13th 2015
37
no.
Jan 12th 2015
2
Went searching for evidence. this is what I found
Jan 12th 2015
4
Asians get the lab tech, doctor, expert __, and martial arts thug gigs.
Jan 12th 2015
6
      Well yeah. I didn't say white people treat Asians as equals
Jan 12th 2015
8
           I didn't say you did.
Jan 12th 2015
9
           Model minorities bro
Jan 12th 2015
20
                Nobody would by Asian Male Watson
Jan 13th 2015
52
Nah and a percentage are secret Latinos
Jan 12th 2015
5
secret Latinos might be the X-factor
Jan 12th 2015
7
I think secret latinos and having their own networks explain it.
Jan 12th 2015
10
      "We" have :our" own networks* too
Jan 12th 2015
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      yes but we don't have our own language.*
Jan 12th 2015
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           I just wanted to add a disclaimer b4 someone ran in like
Jan 12th 2015
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                i see it.
Jan 12th 2015
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                Let me use the example of mi Tio y Tia.
Jan 12th 2015
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                     yup. race on Hispanic TV is a mess.
Jan 12th 2015
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                     man for a minute I thought you were talking about a show
Jan 13th 2015
40
                shit-- there goes my reply
Jan 13th 2015
38
      secret latinos, I'm stealing this FYI
Jan 13th 2015
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           It's all yours
Jan 13th 2015
51
like Louis CK...
Jan 13th 2015
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      or Christina Aguillera
Jan 13th 2015
43
So were talking just sheer numbers
Jan 12th 2015
13
I've only seen 3 of these shows, but
Jan 12th 2015
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      RE: I've only seen 3 of these shows, b
Jan 12th 2015
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           RE: I've only seen 3 of these shows, b
Jan 13th 2015
50
latinos got their own media channels & DGAF
Jan 12th 2015
21
so to Black people
Jan 12th 2015
22
nah. it's like a thousand latino channels. 5 screens worth of scrolling ...
Jan 12th 2015
28
and the racial make up is still fucked up
Jan 12th 2015
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Yep. I aint see NO brown skinned telemundo anchors.
Jan 12th 2015
32
I wonder if clueless white people ever go in on that?
Jan 12th 2015
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aren't Blacks over-represented too
Jan 12th 2015
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yup
Jan 12th 2015
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      Don't most TV shows take place in urban or metropolitan areas though?
Jan 12th 2015
26
native americans yo
Jan 12th 2015
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When the last time you saw TWO Native Americans -Chris Rock
Jan 12th 2015
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last one I saw was the lady from 'falling skies"
Jan 12th 2015
31
      Moon Bloodgood is a hella native-sounding name, but she ain't
Jan 13th 2015
35
           holy smokes you're right. Father Irish , mother Korean.
Jan 13th 2015
53
LOLOLOLOL
Jan 13th 2015
33
nope, blacks and asians are overrepresented, statistically speaking
Jan 13th 2015
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      Uh...I addressed this. Most shows take place in cities or areas
Jan 13th 2015
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      RE: Uh...I addressed this.
Jan 13th 2015
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           How does that not address it?
Jan 13th 2015
45
               
                     RE: How does that not address it?
Jan 13th 2015
48
                          dap. i can dig it
Jan 13th 2015
54
      if asians are overrepresented, name them.
Jan 13th 2015
44
           Asians are mostly overrepresented in ads
Jan 13th 2015
46
                can't argue with the citation...
Jan 13th 2015
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