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"Poll question: Who wrong? Photographer or the mom?"
Sun Jan-11-15 11:49 AM by lightworks

          

This hilarious thing happened on the plane the other day. I never seen a situation go so left so quickly.

This old dude who apparently was a professional photographer and was maybe 60 was snapping pics from his window seat throughout the flight. I was in the aisle.

In front of us was a mom maybe in her 30's and her daughter who was like 3. Cute kid.

So at the end of the flight he was like "your daughter is so cute"

And the mom was like "thanks so much" and was happy and all smiling.

Then he said "I have a granddaughter that age. Your daughter was so well behaved on the flight" and then he gave her his business card.

So she was like "What's this for?"

And he was like "Oh I took some pics of her when we were at the gate while we were all waiting to board and thought you might like them" and she FLIPPED out on him.

Guess she was angry he was taking pics of her kid without her consent.

What say y'all? Was she wrong to flip? Was he wrong to take the pics of a little girl without her mom's permission? Was his only mistake trying to give the pics to her?

Poll result (33 votes)
Photographer (23 votes)Vote
Mom (10 votes)Vote

  

  

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Who wrong? Photographer or the mom? [View all] , lightworks, Sun Jan-11-15 11:41 AM
 
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photographer is more wrong. he shouldve asked before or shut the fuck up...
Jan 11th 2015
1
^^
Jan 12th 2015
30
Nobody.
Jan 11th 2015
2
outrage today is so misplaced
Jan 11th 2015
3
should prolly get permission before snapping pics of a toddler
Jan 11th 2015
4
maybe, maybe not.
Jan 11th 2015
7
the mother did a common thing as well...
Jan 11th 2015
21
      wrong how?
Jan 12th 2015
58
u only need to get permission if u use it for shit
Jan 12th 2015
24
0 to OUTRAGED!!
Jan 11th 2015
6
I ask permission to take pics of ppl's dogs bro
Jan 11th 2015
5
Photographer should not have said he took pics
Jan 11th 2015
8
RE: Who wrong? Photographer or the mom?
Jan 11th 2015
9
he's not wrong for taking the pics per se but the question is
Jan 11th 2015
10
For the record he seemed really nice.
Jan 11th 2015
12
      So did the bike shop owner on Diff'rent Strokes
Jan 12th 2015
29
           LOL... seriously tho,
Jan 12th 2015
34
further, what child pornographer is gonna offer the pics to the parent
Jan 11th 2015
11
Look yall... don't take pictures of kids without consent... PERIOD
Jan 11th 2015
13
he doesn't need the parents' permission
Jan 11th 2015
14
      figures it's legal, doesn't make it right
Jan 11th 2015
15
      the perv has less protection
Jan 11th 2015
16
           disclaimer: i was a child model
Jan 11th 2015
17
                the only remedy is for kids to not appear in public places.
Jan 11th 2015
18
                     or photogs to be decent and ask permission or use models
Jan 11th 2015
19
                          Yeah
Jan 11th 2015
20
                          then it no longer is a candid shot wtf
Jan 12th 2015
26
                          Guess who does not give a fuck about ruining your shot of my child?
Jan 12th 2015
36
                               clearly the reasonable ex-child-model lol
Jan 12th 2015
38
                               photogs don't have to censor themselves in consideration of anyone.
Jan 12th 2015
41
                          defeats the purpose.
Jan 12th 2015
35
                               perhaps you need a new purpose n/m
Jan 12th 2015
37
                                    but, we're all Charlie now.
Jan 12th 2015
40
                                    fuck the world and *ASK* me for shit!!
Jan 12th 2015
42
                                         lol
Jan 12th 2015
45
                                              if i don't catch you ain't shit i can do
Jan 12th 2015
59
                                                   right on, vigilante.
Jan 12th 2015
63
                                    Sure, I'll think of one right after I get my shot.
Jan 12th 2015
47
                                         and see this is what i mean
Jan 12th 2015
53
                                              It ain't about that, fam.
Jan 12th 2015
61
                                              he wouldnt be able to do that
Jan 12th 2015
83
      if he planned to use it commercially
Jan 11th 2015
22
      so paparazzi photographers get model releases
Jan 11th 2015
23
      Good point. They sell those photos.
Jan 12th 2015
27
      yep, the pap hide behind "journalism"
Jan 12th 2015
39
           meanwhile you're hiding behind your rights too n/m
Jan 12th 2015
44
           and parents hide behind their impulse to protect their kids
Jan 12th 2015
46
           i'm rarely rude or unnecessary in public
Jan 12th 2015
49
                that's great.
Jan 12th 2015
64
           wat?
Jan 12th 2015
48
                motherfucker i'm talking shit
Jan 12th 2015
51
                     LOL.. agree with me or I'm leaving
Jan 12th 2015
52
                          stfu lol
Jan 12th 2015
57
                               you really don't get how you're hiding behind your rights
Jan 12th 2015
60
                                    who said they were beneath me?
Jan 12th 2015
62
                                         oh i thought you were a photog... fuck that though
Jan 12th 2015
79
                                              i like how u evade the private vs public aspect btw
Jan 12th 2015
84
           what's to challenge? It *IS* journalism
Jan 12th 2015
50
           meh, i think it's fair
Jan 12th 2015
55
                as a thought exercise sure
Jan 12th 2015
132
           they arent hiding
Jan 12th 2015
128
      its not considered commercial use
Jan 12th 2015
126
      I think so but I'm not sure.
Jan 12th 2015
25
      a plane is privately owned property though, not traditional
Jan 12th 2015
173
           he took the pix @ the airport.
Jan 12th 2015
174
                i just caught up... thanks
Jan 12th 2015
179
i'm willing ride w/ the photographer being wrong, BUT
Jan 12th 2015
28
Are you even supposed to be taking pics @ the Airport?
Jan 12th 2015
31
Photographer isn't wrong. Yes, I'm biased, but it's the reality.
Jan 12th 2015
32
Can we get a Race Check for all involved?
Jan 12th 2015
33
this video is super appropriate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkIWW6v...
Jan 12th 2015
43
RE: that was great
Jan 12th 2015
206
      riiiiight? I love that dude
Jan 12th 2015
211
Photographer did nothing wrong, society is obsessed with child abuse now...
Jan 12th 2015
54
when did this become a question of child abuse?
Jan 12th 2015
56
fear of child molestation/exploitation. fear of pedophilia.
Jan 12th 2015
66
      i think it's more of an issue with privacy.
Jan 12th 2015
96
           if so that's too bad.
Jan 12th 2015
131
agreed.
Jan 12th 2015
65
you people are nuts.
Jan 12th 2015
67
lmao, that last scenario cracked me up
Jan 12th 2015
68
That's ideal but not always possible in terms of capturing the moment.
Jan 12th 2015
70
unless he's on assignment, he ain't doing shit but snapshots.
Jan 12th 2015
75
      RE: unless he's on assignment, he ain't doing shit but snapshots.
Jan 12th 2015
77
      that conversation was totally useless, from the beginning.
Jan 12th 2015
85
           RE: that conversation was totally useless, from the beginning.
Jan 12th 2015
92
      lmao rogue photographer
Jan 12th 2015
82
           tough call. I'm not sure how many photogs go out aimlessly.
Jan 12th 2015
87
                what if the intention is practice? or enjoyment
Jan 12th 2015
103
                     i understand all of this. and wth that a photographer MUST learn
Jan 12th 2015
106
                          i would say it's more important to not be an asshole
Jan 12th 2015
112
i'd be creeped out by your suggestion.
Jan 12th 2015
71
Not only that, but people don't usually "get it" until they see it.
Jan 12th 2015
74
i ain't showing shit to nobody on the street.
Jan 12th 2015
76
      Who is talking about the street?
Jan 12th 2015
78
           street as in 'not a studio or setup.'
Jan 12th 2015
80
                there's a difference between 125 & Lennox and an airport before boarding...
Jan 12th 2015
81
                     how do the differences impact this situation?
Jan 12th 2015
89
                          Obviously there's less of a "random" factor here.
Jan 12th 2015
93
                               with your theory, doctor offices are fairer game for shooting.
Jan 12th 2015
95
                                    Flee? What are you talking about?
Jan 12th 2015
97
                                         public space vs 'common space' vs privacy and perceived safety.
Jan 12th 2015
99
                                              Safety? From what?
Jan 12th 2015
100
                                                   unsolicited photographers.
Jan 12th 2015
102
                                                        Guess what? Anyone with a smart phone is an unsolicited photographer.
Jan 12th 2015
105
                                                             are you ignoring the difference in fidelity between camera phones
Jan 12th 2015
109
                                                                  on the internet nobody gives a fuck n/m
Jan 12th 2015
111
                                                                  are you ignoring the fact that cell phones now have high resolution came...
Jan 12th 2015
115
                                                                       you're reading like a commercial '140000000MP RESOLUTION!!!'
Jan 12th 2015
117
                                                                            You're avoiding your (false) point.
Jan 12th 2015
119
                                                                            the danger is in the camera itself. they're intimidating
Jan 12th 2015
121
                                                                            she didn't even know until after the fact, though.
Jan 12th 2015
122
                                                                            this is like saying. 'hey i got some shots of your panties showing when
Jan 12th 2015
138
                                                                            Yeah, it's exactly like that. Exactly.
Jan 12th 2015
141
                                                                            thanks for playing.
Jan 12th 2015
143
there's a difference between cctv shots and a high reolution
Jan 12th 2015
98
      non-point
Jan 12th 2015
113
      it was to the point that: 'the moms shouldn't trip, security cameras
Jan 12th 2015
116
           so a non-point in response to another non-point
Jan 12th 2015
118
                yeah, i need to do better.
Jan 12th 2015
120
      courts haven't found an appreciable difference, as far as i know.
Jan 12th 2015
156
they actually cannot
Jan 12th 2015
88
      stock photos are free now? it's a new day!
Jan 12th 2015
91
           hey in case you didn't know
Jan 12th 2015
124
           patience these.
Jan 12th 2015
127
                shove those up your ass
Jan 12th 2015
129
                     hold this.
Jan 12th 2015
134
                          you can shove that up your ass as well
Jan 12th 2015
137
                               but what about the other thing?
Jan 12th 2015
142
                                    why act like you arent a giant asshole?
Jan 12th 2015
145
                                         ok. move over.
Jan 12th 2015
155
                                              no need
Jan 12th 2015
159
                                                   ok. enjoy your stay.
Jan 12th 2015
170
                                                        sheeit you live here
Jan 12th 2015
192
           stock photos come from candid shots without model releases now?
Jan 12th 2015
140
can we talk about Shia LeBeouf and the Sia video?
Jan 12th 2015
86
neither.
Jan 12th 2015
69
yea, its an emotional reaction
Jan 12th 2015
72
yup.
Jan 12th 2015
73
hrm
Jan 12th 2015
90
now it's your job to monitor every photo he publishes?
Jan 12th 2015
94
      me thinks you dont know i do this for a living
Jan 12th 2015
123
           i'd argue in this case 'doing something for a living' means much
Jan 12th 2015
133
                it means you havent a clue as to what youre
Jan 12th 2015
149
                     damn lfresh, you scary.
Jan 12th 2015
191
Team Photographer. My boy does it at sports Games all the time.
Jan 12th 2015
101
is there a difference between a sports game and a doctors office
Jan 12th 2015
104
      is there?
Jan 12th 2015
107
           yes, of course.
Jan 12th 2015
110
                i thought so too
Jan 12th 2015
114
                the difference is that when you walk into an arena or have a ticket to a...
Jan 12th 2015
154
                     this photog seems to have done this:
Jan 12th 2015
164
                     wrong. the photos of the child were taken at the gate.
Jan 12th 2015
168
                     Whoa. That changes my entire analysis!
Jan 12th 2015
171
                          what a wise guy. it absolutely should.
Jan 12th 2015
172
                               Nah, photographer are creatives and inspiration comes and goes randomly
Jan 12th 2015
175
                               oh dear. what a terrible sentence you just typed.
Jan 12th 2015
178
                               actually, this response deserves a dogpile.
Jan 12th 2015
                               It;s because you hate creatives, you hater of creatives...
Jan 12th 2015
203
                               'inspiration' is real. but execution is really what they're doing
Jan 12th 2015
181
                               I guess their common sense comes and goes randomly as well.
Jan 12th 2015
182
                                    Eh. It happens.
Jan 12th 2015
204
                               Yes and no. I thought about this as well.
Jan 12th 2015
183
                               why do you think it should?
Jan 12th 2015
184
                     It seemed to me that there was a significant gap in time between the pic...
Jan 12th 2015
176
                          the timing here makes no difference to me.
Jan 12th 2015
185
                               i think timing implies the intent.
Jan 12th 2015
187
                                    oh okay.
Jan 12th 2015
189
                     precisely.
Jan 12th 2015
166
                     Public parks and HS gyms don't have any disclaimers.
Jan 12th 2015
169
                     If someone is taking pictures of kids at a park that aren't his
Jan 12th 2015
180
                          that dog won't hunt.
Jan 12th 2015
186
                               good for you.
Jan 12th 2015
188
                               oh, for sure.
Jan 12th 2015
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                                    and this is what's disgusting about this conversation.
Jan 12th 2015
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                                         i understand the difference.
Jan 12th 2015
196
                               DING FREAKING DING.. THE WINNER. POST OVER!
Jan 12th 2015
201
                     lol, oh...that changes things
Jan 12th 2015
198
                How so, please explain the difference
Jan 12th 2015
130
                     would he do that at a pediatric office? or an airplane cabin?
Jan 12th 2015
135
                          courthouse? why aren't cameras allowed in court again?
Jan 12th 2015
136
                          to protect jurors and witnesses from being intimidated.
Jan 12th 2015
147
                               gotcha...thx....it doesn't stop the intimidation but i understand
Jan 12th 2015
150
                               OKP Law to the rescue.
Jan 12th 2015
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                          Answer the question. Is he wrong?
Jan 12th 2015
146
                               think private property vs public
Jan 12th 2015
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                               He goes to School facilites which are private and public parks (city own...
Jan 12th 2015
157
                               here. wrong is weak concept.
Jan 12th 2015
153
                                    Dude, the OP is about who's wrong.
Jan 12th 2015
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                                         the topic devolved from who's 'right or wrong' to 'who's practicing
Jan 12th 2015
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                                              Ok, then just give your opinion and we can go from there.
Jan 12th 2015
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                                                   i think photographers have the responsibility to assuage any public
Jan 12th 2015
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                                                        u are not alone
Jan 12th 2015
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                                                             moms is not being unreasonable.
Jan 12th 2015
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                                                                  irrational != unreasonable?
Jan 12th 2015
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                                                                       nope. its reasonable of the photographer to be aware of irrational ppl
Jan 12th 2015
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                                                                            What harm was done?
Jan 12th 2015
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                                                                                 you going around giving candy to children without parents consent?
Jan 12th 2015
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                                                                                      give up on analogies
Jan 12th 2015
209
photographers can be weird
Jan 12th 2015
108
agreed
Jan 12th 2015
125
The Mother is clearly wrong!
Jan 12th 2015
139
when did this become a conversation about who is more law abiding?
Jan 12th 2015
144
somewhere between replies 14 and 15, it seems.
Jan 12th 2015
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      i see. that is absolutely disgusting.
Jan 12th 2015
158
As a parent, I would find in unnerving if someone took pics of my kids
Jan 12th 2015
161
he could've approached her in a better way for sure
Jan 12th 2015
162
yeah.
Jan 12th 2015
165
clearly the kid's fault
Jan 12th 2015
190
daggon seductive children
Jan 12th 2015
193
The guy should of used a little more tact
Jan 12th 2015
197
Is there something inherently bad about someone having your kid's pic?
Jan 12th 2015
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