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159. "NY Times got OKP faves Chappelle and Boondocks on deck for a role"
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in why the public didn't rage at Kells


https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/06/arts/television/surviving-r-kelly-dave-chappelle.html?action=click&module=Well&pgtype=Homepage§ion=Music

CRITIC’S NOTEBOOK

How ‘Chappelle’s Show’ and ‘The Boondocks’ Kept Us Laughing at R. Kelly

By Aisha Harris

Jan. 6, 2019



The singer R. Kelly is the subject of a six-part documentary on Lifetime, “Surviving R. Kelly.”


The singer R. Kelly is the subject of a six-part documentary on Lifetime, “Surviving R. Kelly.

Jan. 6, 2019


“Surviving R. Kelly,” the six-part documentary about the R&B singer Robert Kelly, who has faced accusations of child and sexual abuse for decades, underscores the theme of accountability — not just of Kelly or his many personal enablers, but of us all.

Clinical psychologists, music journalists, activists and others who are interviewed in this Lifetime series echo one another in their explanations of how the musician has managed to escape severe repercussions, legally and professionally, for decades.

Chief among them: the shielding powers of money and fame; society’s indifference toward the suffering of black and brown girls and women; a perception by some that the attacks on any black male celebrity, no matter how credible, are part of a larger racist conspiracy.

Another key factor: Laughter. Two cultural touchstones that helped shape the public’s perception of the Kelly accusations are only mentioned in passing in “Surviving R. Kelly.” But “(I Wanna) Pee on You,” a 2003 sketch from “Chappelle’s Show,” and a 2005 episode of the animated series “The Boondocks” titled “The Trial of R. Kelly,” embody many of the points made in the documentary.

Revisiting them in light of “Surviving R. Kelly” demonstrates how, for years, those who laughed at Kelly were able to ignore the charges against him. It also emphasizes how much the cultural climate has shifted in the era of #MuteRKelly protests, and how much it has stayed the same. (Kelly, who was acquitted in 2008 on charges of child pornography, has denied all allegations related to abuse of and sex with minors.)

In his sketch, the comedian Dave Chappelle took a straightforwardly silly approach to the allegations concerning a sex tape that appeared to show Kelly urinating on a 14-year-old girl. Dressed not unlike Kelly, in a pair of dark sunglasses and a bandanna, Chappelle stars in a music video in which he sings about wanting to urinate on the object of his affections. (“Your body is a porta potty.”) The melody aligns closely with Kelly’s song “Feelin’ on Yo Booty,” which is itself a rather preposterous song. (Kelly finds several comical ways to ad-lib the word “booty” at the end.)


The set is bare bones in comparison to a typical Kelly video; most of it takes place in front of a long white curtain, as Chappelle sprays a garden hose — which is very explicitly labeled “R. Kelly’s urine” — on an ensemble of gyrating women.

That’s an important distinction to make: The actors here are very obviously adult women, not pubescent girls. “(I Wanna) Pee on You” compartmentalizes the Kelly allegations and completely divorces it from its insidious facts; it’s easier (and safer) to poke fun at a grown man’s fetish than to wrestle with claims that he performed his fetish on a minor. (The Detroit Free Press reported that Chappelle, among other celebrities, declined to be interviewed for the documentary series.)

“The Trial of R. Kelly” is the second episode of “The Boondocks,” which centered on the misadventures of the socially conscious 10-year-old Huey and his more brazen, politically incorrect little brother Riley, both voiced by Regina King. The creator Aaron McGruder pulled no punches. With the singer’s highly publicized trial happening close to home, the boys head to Chicago to witness the circus, Riley carrying a “Free R. Kelly” sign.

When they encounter their nerdy neighbor Tom DuBois, who is representing the prosecution against Kelly, Riley lets loose an impassioned — and ridiculous — defense of the singer. Tom, shocked, counters that the alleged victim, depicted in the episode with pigtails and knee socks, is a little girl. Riley is having none of it. “I’ve seen that girl! She ain’t little; I’m little. Gary Coleman’s little.”

He argues for “personal responsibility,” suggests that the girl should have just moved out of the way of Kelly’s urine and adds that he doesn’t want to “miss out on the next R. Kelly album,” should Kelly be sent to jail.

“Boondocks” depicts Riley’s rhetoric as poisonous and the trial as a scathing farce. In the episode, Kelly’s white defense lawyer jumps through absurdist hoops to prove to the predominantly black jury that Kelly is a victim of racism. (He presents Kelly’s N.A.A.C.P. Image Award as evidence, and tells the jury, “They don’t want R. Kelly to be free because they don’t want you to be free!”)

By the end of the episode, Huey, the moral voice of reason, is standing up in the courtroom, admonishing the jurors and everyone else in attendance for giving Kelly a pass because he made good music. Every black person who is arrested “ain’t Nelson Mandela,” he scolds. Later, in voice over narration, he laments that “ignorance won” and he is “vexed at my people.”

As a scathing critique of Kelly’s deeds and black people’s complicity, unlike the Chappelle sketch, this episode still feels fresh, mostly. (Just look at comments on social media blaming the alleged victims in response to “Surviving R. Kelly.”) But McGruder’s stark delineation between Kelly’s supporters and dissenters plays into ugly stereotypes around class: Outside the courtroom, a loud, overweight black woman snacks on fried chicken while voicing her love for the singer; and three male protesters in suits are referred to by a news reporter as “scholars, activists, pillars of the African-American community.” (One of them looks just like Cornel West.)

In reality, black people of all demographics have supported Kelly. As noted in the documentary, the same day he pleaded not guilty to the child sex tape charge, he went to a church event in Chicago, where he performed alongside children, and was embraced by the congregation there.

McGruder overstepped the theme of “we are all responsible” by including the 14-year-old victim in his courtroom scene. (In the real trial, the girl identified as the alleged victim denied it was her in the video.)

In the episode, the girl’s testimony echoes Riley’s earlier argument to Tom: “If I didn’t want to get peed on, I’d just move out the way,” she says with an attitude. It’s hard to imagine this episode airing today and not inspiring backlash. It’s also entirely possible that McGruder wouldn’t make this same creative choice today.

But back when Kelly was still a consistent hit maker, the Chappelle sketch and this “Boondocks” episode were really funny. I can recall laughing about the skit with my friends in college, gleefully reciting lines like “Drip drip drip, pee on you.” I’m sure I chuckled the first time I heard the sassy black victim proclaim she’s not a victim on the stand. Even before the allegations, which I didn’t pay much attention to at the time, I was never much of a Kelly fan — I imagine “I Believe I Can Fly” is playing on loop somewhere in The Bad Place — but I did find him to be an excellent punch line for a long time.

Now, however, it’s impossible for me to watch those episodes and not think about the magnitude of everything Kelly has been accused of.

In the fourth episode of “Surviving R. Kelly,” the music journalist Ann Powers suggests that “Trapped in the Closet,” Kelly’s bonkers episodic soap operetta, was a strategic career move. “I think at some point he probably figured out that playing sex for laughs was a way that he could continue to avoid absolute condemnation for what he might have been doing behind the scenes,” she observes.

It’s hard to argue with this point — even now some have found humor in “Surviving R. Kelly,” roasting him for his rumored inability to read or write. Looking back on “Chappelle’s Show” and “Boondocks,” it’s clear that there was more than one way to let Kelly off the hook, and comedy was one of them. Even if I was never defending Kelly, I was still laughing at him, and effectively ignoring his alleged transgressions.


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Comments from the NY Times readers

(because I know you expect more from NY Times readers than you would from commenters from another site)

Farmer D

Dogtown, USA1h ago

Is there anything funny about an adult male who is a rapist and child porn viewer?

We can take this sorry chapter in American history back to Clarence Thomas and O.J. Simpson (if not further). Thomas and his "high-tech lynching" was a cynical ploy to divert attention from the truth. Simpson did the same, showing a mostly-minority jury shiny toys and glib rhymes to divert their attention from the truth. So we now have an overtly racist man, who hates the color of his own skin, on what used to be a respected institute of justice. We have a multiple murderer walking free.

It would take an essay covering thousands of pages to fully explain how we got here as a people. But here we are, where criminals can trust that they will be acquitted by appealing to a jury's deeply-held individual beliefs that the crime's abhorrent nature should somehow be excused because "the country" was complicit in discriminating against people who look like these criminals. Not against these particular criminals; rather, against people who physically resemble them.

Has there been a "push-back?" Around 60 million people voted for a lying, misogynist, racist white robber baron and con-man to be president. Why?

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TLibby

Colorado1h ago

Wasn't the prosecution of Bill Cosby kickstarted by a Hannibal Buress routine? Isn't it just as possible that both South Park and Chappelle were trying to do the same thing?

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Alan Chaprack

NYC1h ago

"It's also entirely possible that McGruder wouldn't make this same creative choice."

As a (white) fan of The Boondocks since its inception as a comic strip, I feel it safe to say that Aaron McGruder would make EXACTLY "the same creative choice," but the network that aired the cartoon would go all Saudi Arabia and demand changes.

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Terry

NYC2h ago

This article misses the point by a huge mark. In addition to the reporter in Chicago that relentlessly wrote well documented articles subsequently picked up by alternative weeklies like the Village Voice, the Boondocks and Chapelle critique of Kelly was unparalleled (no one else was doing it or commenting) and that Boondocks episode in particular was sharply pointed and on point. Didn’t R kelly try to step to Chapelle over that episode? He certainly got the point. Neither Chapelle nor Boondocks made light of the issue at all. Also no one else was saying anything except buying tickets and collaborating with him.

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Rob

Buffalo NY2h ago

If Elvis, Jerry Lee Lewis, Chuck Berry were new artists they might all be in jail.

There are many reasons that "dangerous" performers are greatly admired and pursued by their fans. The willingness to transgress is part of their appeal? What does it say about the fans who create these mythical entities?

We don't talk about our attraction to the dangerous, many of whom are daring enough (or narcissistic enough) to pursue public careers and the accompanying adulation, money, power & sex.

The conversation goes far deeper than we're generally willing to scratch.

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Alan Chaprack

NYC1h ago

@Rob Chuck Berry did go to jail.

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Andrew

Brooklyn2h ago

Somehow the comedians bringing this to light and, by the way, doing their job of making fun of this are to blame?

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Jeff Freeman

Santa Monica, CA2h ago

@Andrew

One hardly needed Dave Chappelle to bring R. Kelly's trial to light. And laughing at is not laughing with. Personally have a problem with finding the abuse and exploitation of a young girl funny. Comedians like everyone else have freedom, not license. We also should not fear being held accountable, of a discussion that enlightens hopefully and moves us forward and that is not blame.

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John

LINY2h ago

How old is the author? Does she know that the truth is always told first as jest. For R Kelly his turn in the barrel is now.
My child once asked me why society didn’t take care of so many things earlier. Now she tells me she didn’t realize how many things needed fixing.

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redweather

Atlanta2h ago

If I understand this column, some things are so odious that using them as a vehicle for humor trivializes them and perhaps, at least in the view of some people, normalizes them. Hard for me to argue with that. There is nothing funny about sexual abuse or the fact that some people get away with it for a very long time.

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Tyrone Will

Harrisburg1h ago

@redweather

I don't think Chappelle or McGruder was going for humor, particular at the expense of those that were sexually abused. I think more like satire , especially, in the case of McGruder, of the black community's response to the situation.

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Bryan

Chicago2h ago

Comedy is a way to get people talking about issues that are being ignored, not a way to ignore those issues. Were Hannibal Burress's jokes about Cosby letting him off the hook? No, they finally brought attention to what had long been an open secret.

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JenD

NJ3h ago

I saw Chappelle's skewering of Kelly as a statement about what a creep Kelly was/is and how he was getting away with his abusive behavior. (I watched the Chappelle episode when it first aired.) In that sense, Chappelle was being brave to take down someone that a lot of his audience saw as a person to be admired. Chappelle performed his comedic function admirably: he pointed out the insanity of the act itself, of people defending Kelly, looking the other way, etc. He made people laugh while doing it. That's what comedians do.

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Emilie

Paris4h ago

Whether we like it or not humour here was a form of denunciation. There are many ways to talk about abuse, Chappelle's may be seen as limited but he did contribute to the public debate on the matter. Your article reminds me of Camille Paglia commenting 20 years ago about Ellen De Generes's coming out on "Ellen": "I wish Ellen had dealt with her coming out more seriously", but what comedians do is comedy. Sure, Hannah Gadsby is right in "Nanette" : comedy does not deal with abuse in an appropriate way. But neither do the news, or school, or church...

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Jason Snyder

Staten Island4h ago

Yet it was Hannibal Burress, during his stand-up performance, who took down Bill Cosby. Prior to that it was all rumors and pay-offs. Also #me-too was on the rise at that time. The early 2000s Cosby (and Weinstein, etc) were still doing their thing and their peers and the press that covered them were afraid to take it on. Boondocks had it right, R. Kelly had too many apologists and enablers who'd defend him at all cost. It's Boondocks' job to illuminate, as they did, and it was up to the mainstream press to pick it up from there. Only the latter failed at their job.

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Zo

DC4h ago

This is a naïve and simplistic take - at best. The point of comedy, particularly with the comedians the writer Aisha Harris highlights, is to bring serious issues to the fore and examine them in a new, refreshing way. With this twisted take, I guess Ms. Harris cannot tolerate Trevor Noah, Samantha Bee, Chris Rock, Jon Stewart, Bill Mahr, and countless other comedians! If Aisha Harris watched these episodes over a decade ago, and simply laughed, shame on her. But it's highly likely that most of us saw those shows, laughed, vehemently shook our heads, and then had serious discussions with our friends and family about the harm of R. Kelly, his music, and his supporters. These shows woke a lot of people up to the monster of R. Kelly. But Ms. Harris - I'm glad you’re no longer just laughing!

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James

Savannah5h ago

Article implies we all have some kind of say over what celebrities do, or what anyone does for that matter. The only say we have over criminal, unethical entertainers and other corporate entities is to not buy their product, just as the only say we have over criminal, unethical politicians is to not vote for them.
Meanwhile, we laugh at the satire until it's not funny anymore (SNL, et al).

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John Valentine

Memphis5h ago

As an African-American male I'll admit it was heart wrenching to watch the series, but I see the whole thing in a wider perspective. Again, we focus on a single problem, episode, incident, or person, while refusing to address the much larger issue. The larger issue is the exploitation of young girls throughout the entertainment industry, mainly in music, be it in hip hop, rock, R & B, pop, country, etc. This type of behavior is endemic in all areas of the music and entertainment industry. Is there anything more sordid than the treatment of young, rock groupies by some of the biggest names in the business over many decades? Their is enough blame for everyone. From an industry that tolerates the depravity that goes on to the record and entertainment executives who promote these artists to the media that glorify these sick abusers to the fans who support them and their careers to the parents who allow their young girls to be around the abusers to the young girls themselves who foolishly believe being around these type of men make them "special" Though Kelly is a despicable human being, taking down one abuser, or two or three, won't come close to solving this problem. We need a broader discussion about the power of fame, celebrity, and money, and how the three warp our perspective of right and wrong, and reveal just how much we're willing to accept to be part of the "in" crowd.

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Andrew Lee

San Francisco Bay Area5h ago

You do realize onr point of comedy and satire is to raise awareness. The Daily Show, while bringing humor to the news, is hardly "funny," when you realize the truth it's parodying. If anything, Chapelle brought focus to R Kelley, he didn't make his actions "okay," as you offer.

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Your favorite celebrities won’t speak out on R. Kelly. [View all] , lightworks, Thu Jan-03-19 05:15 PM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
May it be he has some stories to tell also?
Jan 03rd 2019
1
has quest ever outed anyone in any respect?
Jan 03rd 2019
2
Dream Hampton going back and forth with 15 about it
Jan 03rd 2019
3
Bahhhhhh already deleted. Can you give a synopsis ?!
Jan 03rd 2019
4
quest basically said he don't f with kells at all
Jan 03rd 2019
7
      the whole story is on the okp news page
Jan 03rd 2019
8
in defense of ?uest Dogg:
Jan 04th 2019
32
It would ruin his upcoming collaboration with mistermaxxx
Jan 03rd 2019
5
*dabs forehead* this doc is brutal
Jan 03rd 2019
6
RE: *dabs forehead* this doc is brutal
Jan 04th 2019
11
Side note, wasn't there rumours that Aaliyahs mom also messed with him?
Jan 03rd 2019
9
this Sparkle broad is so full of shit smh
Jan 03rd 2019
10
RE: this Sparkle broad is so full of shit smh
Jan 04th 2019
17
its powerful seeing the women tell their stories....but
Jan 04th 2019
12
If he didn't get convicted from a tape + enabling fans = Teflon Don
Jan 04th 2019
22
      You see how long it took Cosby to go to jail
Jan 04th 2019
34
      and even then, it was the act of an actual 'activist judge'*
Jan 04th 2019
38
      Yikes.
Jan 04th 2019
35
      Because Kells didn't try to buy NBC
Jan 04th 2019
42
      this was a failure on a lot of levels....by a lot of people...
Jan 04th 2019
62
           Have Aaliyah's parents ever spoken about this?
Jan 04th 2019
64
                her parents didn't sign off for her to marry....
Jan 04th 2019
73
I’m halfway through part 2 and....
Jan 04th 2019
13
In defense of the celebrities...maybe they were busy.
Jan 04th 2019
14
I'm sure being busy is a convenient
Jan 04th 2019
15
Jay espescially
Jan 04th 2019
16
Back stage, underaged, adolescence
Jan 04th 2019
18
      and the 00s when i was in HS and probably the 10s too.
Jan 04th 2019
19
      Man, music as a whole was so dirty for so long
Jan 04th 2019
20
      it ain't just music...like at ALL...this was a whole ass mentality
Jan 04th 2019
21
           Was? You can marry legally marry a 14 year old in this country.
Jan 04th 2019
26
           Shout out to Jerry Lee Lewis
Jan 04th 2019
31
           And still is for a lot of people
Jan 04th 2019
30
           I flipped past Alice, the old ass show from the 70’s
Jan 04th 2019
59
                woooow
Jan 05th 2019
106
                Don't Forget Blanche From Golden Girls
Jan 06th 2019
113
                Wow... WTF?!!
Jan 07th 2019
135
      You may be young...but you're readaaaay... . ready.to.leaarrn...
Jan 04th 2019
23
      RE: Back stage, underaged, adolescence
Jan 04th 2019
27
      RE: Back stage, underaged, adolescence
Jan 04th 2019
88
This was dream hampton's project. She wrote Jay's book.
Jan 04th 2019
24
if you were of age when the allegations first came out nothing in the...
Jan 04th 2019
25
there's no age of consent for abuse.
Jan 04th 2019
28
Oh, he's good then
Jan 04th 2019
29
Does Quest have some sort of history with R Kelly?
Jan 04th 2019
33
I think was just looking for black male allies
Jan 04th 2019
36
She apparently wanted a "musical historian"
Jan 04th 2019
37
RE: Does Quest have some sort of history with R Kelly?
Jan 04th 2019
39
      Why Gabrielle Union?
Jan 04th 2019
41
           RE: Why Gabrielle Union?
Jan 04th 2019
44
They probably don't want to get rolled-up into a lawsuit
Jan 04th 2019
40
^^^this
Jan 04th 2019
50
Shouldn't we be directing our anger toward a criminal justice system...
Jan 04th 2019
43
lol
Jan 04th 2019
45
RE: lol@sexual abusers evading prosecution...thanks for the input
Jan 04th 2019
46
      RE: lol@sexual abusers evading prosecution...thanks for the input
Jan 04th 2019
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           RE: Alex Acosta
Jan 04th 2019
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                What’s that have to do specifically with R Kelly?
Jan 04th 2019
49
                     So you think I'm defending him, by saying he should be prosecuted
Jan 04th 2019
51
                          I don’t know what you’re saying to be honest
Jan 04th 2019
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                          It would be like your Scion sucking up oil
Jan 04th 2019
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                               Is this quantum logic?
Jan 04th 2019
55
                          point is you can and should focus on both
Jan 04th 2019
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                               When you think about it shouldn’t we all really be mad at oxygen?!?
Jan 04th 2019
56
                                    If Earth was farther from the sun, it couldn't support life
Jan 04th 2019
57
                                         He proud too.
Jan 04th 2019
60
This is such horseshit
Jan 04th 2019
58
Nah, y’all be too quick to jump on folks on here
Jan 04th 2019
61
      It assumes that people are mad at him and NOT the justice system
Jan 04th 2019
63
      But I never said that...I never said we shouldn't have an issue with R
Jan 04th 2019
66
           Your actual words were shouldn’t we be directing our anger towards ...
Jan 04th 2019
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           RE: Your actual words were shouldn’t we be directing our anger towards...
Jan 04th 2019
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                RE: Your actual words were shouldn’t we be directing our anger towards...
Jan 04th 2019
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                     Correct
Jan 04th 2019
77
                          You showed up well after the post
Jan 04th 2019
78
                               the backpeddle.
Jan 04th 2019
79
                                    I’m trying to give your stupid ass an out
Jan 04th 2019
81
                                         Apology accepted
Jan 04th 2019
82
           Who here was absolving the justice system of anything?
Jan 04th 2019
70
                The OP names names...I'm not mad at them for declining to be involved.
Jan 04th 2019
72
                     People should speak out in defense of kids...simple as that
Jan 04th 2019
85
                          Have you watched any of the series yet?
Jan 04th 2019
87
                          Just finished the 2nd ep
Jan 04th 2019
93
      easy, the victims and their parents took the money & refused to testify....
Jan 04th 2019
65
      Right...were the allegations in those lawsuits criminally investigated.....
Jan 04th 2019
68
      yes, plenty
Jan 09th 2019
197
      Man, still seems shady that a video couldn’t convince a jury.
Jan 04th 2019
75
           RE: Man, still seems shady that a video couldn’t convince a jury.
Jan 04th 2019
76
                if the prosecution couldn't prove the girl on the video was underage...
Jan 04th 2019
80
      There was a trial in 2008.
Jan 04th 2019
67
Dude BELONGS in jail
Jan 04th 2019
84
why should they subject themselves to uncomfortable discussions
Jan 04th 2019
83
uncomfortable discussions vs child molestation/abuse?
Jan 04th 2019
86
      these people are entertainers, not martyrs or human rights activists
Jan 04th 2019
90
If this had been about the vileness of George Zimmerman, they'd all have...
Jan 04th 2019
89
^^^^^ This is true
Jan 04th 2019
91
Guess you missed that docuseries....
Jan 04th 2019
92
wow he dropped ignition remix and step in the name of love
Jan 05th 2019
94
RE: wow he dropped ignition remix and step in the name of love
Jan 05th 2019
95
Ignition was like a year later. That one-two punch of those two songs
Jan 05th 2019
96
ah funny presentation from the documentary then
Jan 05th 2019
97
      That’s what she said.
Jan 05th 2019
99
he was also painting his hair gold and dressing up like
Jan 07th 2019
136
His Spotify steams are up...
Jan 05th 2019
98
Not gonna lie. They played that Sparkle Joint....
Jan 05th 2019
100
Wait a minute, let me finish!
Jan 06th 2019
117
spotify never fucking pulled his music
Jan 05th 2019
101
RE: spotify never fucking pulled his music
Jan 05th 2019
102
      it doesn't mean anything.
Jan 05th 2019
103
my wife had an interesting theory
Jan 05th 2019
105
      Oh no doubt I def was.
Jan 05th 2019
109
      once you mention it, people are going to play it
Jan 05th 2019
110
      more likely, this series has simply
Jan 07th 2019
130
Let's dog Lady Gaga during her Oscar campaign
Jan 05th 2019
104
When do we start burning our MJ and Isley Brothers records?
Jan 05th 2019
107
      Michael Jackson is royalty. Black people will never let go of
Jan 05th 2019
108
      also, let's consider this about MJ:
Jan 07th 2019
137
           ^^^ I'm thinking this may factor into R being given a pass
Jan 07th 2019
143
      imagine being such a fucking loser
Jan 05th 2019
111
           ?
Jan 06th 2019
120
                I'm trying to connect with you on your level
Jan 06th 2019
121
I'm glad the one mother was able to get her child.
Jan 05th 2019
112
I agree they were just dumb...
Jan 06th 2019
114
fam they were so fucking annoying.
Jan 06th 2019
115
      I’m 3 episodes in and some of these “adults” are killing me
Jan 06th 2019
116
      It's a criminal conspiracy
Jan 06th 2019
119
      its fucked up cuz this is the issue.
Jan 06th 2019
124
           The whole entertainment industry is trash
Jan 06th 2019
129
Has anyone seen Max?
Jan 06th 2019
118
A lot has been made about R. Kelly not being and to read or write...
Jan 06th 2019
122
Kellz said he signed some really fucked up deals
Jan 06th 2019
125
my guess is that some of those folks who are
Jan 06th 2019
126
right....an iliterate guy is gonna need substantial help
Jan 06th 2019
128
I'm still lowkey amazed that he was able to write and play the music
Jan 07th 2019
134
      ummm...what about Stevie & Ray? And likely a whole slew of early Blues
Jan 07th 2019
139
           Wtf do you need to write down? The record button is bright red
Jan 07th 2019
141
           Kels' lyrics ain't THAT deep...nor are his harmonic arrangements...
Jan 07th 2019
144
                You remind me of my jeeeep
Jan 08th 2019
172
           They were both literate in braille and therefore had as much
Jan 07th 2019
148
R. Kelly: I'm broke & Can't read - new track
Jan 06th 2019
123
Come back to us maxxx. We miss you
Jan 06th 2019
127
Lacking what? The perspective of a rape apologist?
Jan 07th 2019
132
      ^see? compare this reply to a maxxx reply
Jan 07th 2019
150
I was talking with some law enforcement peeps this morning and they were...
Jan 07th 2019
131
Has to happen. The cops look like clowns in this.
Jan 07th 2019
133
they doc also said
Jan 07th 2019
140
I Googled "Chicago PD reopen r kelly case" over the weekend
Jan 07th 2019
138
It’s Chicago. Corruption is rampant in their police dept.
Jan 07th 2019
142
you think?
Jan 07th 2019
155
I figure that was always a motive for this project
Jan 07th 2019
151
Where Maxwell at?
Jan 07th 2019
145
how is Drake being a kidfucker not trending
Jan 07th 2019
146
has he recorded himself pissing on a 14 year-old?
Jan 07th 2019
156
He was arraigned on 21 counts...were the other cases investigated?
Jan 07th 2019
147
RE: He was arraigned on 21 counts...were the other cases investigated?
Jan 07th 2019
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Regardless of whether or not he was convicted, 21 video instances of
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the girl on the tape not coming forth
Jan 07th 2019
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RE: He was arraigned on 21 counts...were the other cases investigated?
Jan 07th 2019
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      There was a warrant...in fact...they went back and got a 2nd warrant
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           RE: There was a warrant...in fact...they went back and got a 2nd warrant
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                child pornography is a federal crime
Jan 07th 2019
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new interview from the Savage family.
Jan 07th 2019
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NYT with the mega whiff.
Jan 07th 2019
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if she don't get the fuck
Jan 07th 2019
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      It can be argued that we all didn't take it that serious, but it's B to ...
Jan 07th 2019
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           Cosby's Situation Was Different Than K.Rells Though
Jan 08th 2019
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R. KELLY TO 'EXPOSE' ACCUSERS WITH NEW WEBSITE
Jan 07th 2019
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In the series they detail his legal manuvers with victims after the tria...
Jan 07th 2019
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Ugh. What a disgusting piece of shit he is.
Jan 07th 2019
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      ^^^
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I'm not into celebrity worship like that but fuck em
Jan 07th 2019
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He already admitted it in that 18 minute song. What more do you want?
Jan 07th 2019
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Something ought to be said...
Jan 08th 2019
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he aint doing this.
Jan 08th 2019
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      Maybe not...
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           anything's possible, but I doubt it.
Jan 08th 2019
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                In all honesty this culture has been going on for decades.
Jan 08th 2019
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                     RE: In all honesty this culture has been going on for decades.
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                          that's my thinking as well.
Jan 08th 2019
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                               It seems sort of ironic that you and SistaSaturn are replying to a reply...
Jan 08th 2019
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                                    I understand its ingrained, but there's also the thought
Jan 08th 2019
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                                    But the whole MO is targeting the unprotected.
Jan 08th 2019
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                                    Exactly that
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Clearly someone needs to contact Mr. Biggs to get this nigga
Jan 08th 2019
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lol..wait...lol?..wait...i'm confused....you serious or joking? lol
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      Nah I'm joking, but on second thought
Jan 08th 2019
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      RE: Nah I'm joking, but on second thought
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           Wait, can I not listen to this song guilt free?
Jan 08th 2019
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      Yes and no. He would def listen to Big Ron, but Robert is AARP age
Jan 08th 2019
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           After this long its probably just in your nature at this point
Jan 08th 2019
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           Just realized today is Robert's birthday from looking up his actual age.
Jan 08th 2019
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R. Kelly gonna start pimping these girls once his money dries up.
Jan 08th 2019
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Ctrl+F "Vince Staples"... oh nothing here yet, ok. Let us never forget
Jan 08th 2019
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He's the best
Jan 09th 2019
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he can't read or write?!
Jan 10th 2019
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      I think he *can* but it's just at like an elementary school level
Jan 11th 2019
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Jamilah Lemieux': "R. Kelly’s Time Is Finally Up"(SWIPE)
Jan 09th 2019
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Halfway through, its def not in *need* of more celebrities
Jan 09th 2019
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How seriously should we take this "he's fleeing the country" talk?
Jan 09th 2019
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i mean, why wouldn't he?
Jan 09th 2019
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He believes he can fly.
Jan 10th 2019
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      well done
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           Well it didn't save Gary Glitter who is now incarcerated
Jan 12th 2019
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Warrant issued for R. Kelly's former manager
Jan 10th 2019
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y'all think there is any truth to this?:
Jan 11th 2019
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Someone should do a wellness check on Maxxx
Jan 12th 2019
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nah, fuck him. Have we forgot what he said to defend R?
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that 30 something girl in his cult made me think of maxxx
Jan 14th 2019
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Video of how R Kelly picks up young women at concerts
Jan 12th 2019
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Damn they took it down....
Jan 12th 2019
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Anyone heard from Kelly Price?
Jan 12th 2019
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Why It Could Be Hard to Mute R. Kelly - NY Times swipe
Jan 14th 2019
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Kim Kardashian tries to explain away Kanye's bullshit. Again.
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