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 black, but not Black |
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Feb 03rd 2017 | 1
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 now you get it. nm |
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Feb 03rd 2017 | 49
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| Probably because he's part of the congressional hispanic caucus |
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Feb 03rd 2017 | 2
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| im haitian so might be bias but im lookin at his pic.... |
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Feb 03rd 2017 | 3
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| Naw, bama trying to double dip. He can skate on outta here with that... |
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Feb 03rd 2017 | 4
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| truth is black has to be nothing more than a descriptor |
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Feb 03rd 2017 | 5
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| Nah. That's why B vs b is so important and relevant.... |
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Feb 03rd 2017 | 6
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| It's also disrespectful to "black" immigrants to think they should |
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Feb 03rd 2017 | 31
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 My mom always said you could see it in our eyes. |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 163
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| Damn |
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Feb 07th 2017 | 166
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| Some of this stuff looks really ugly when you type it out |
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Feb 07th 2017 | 173
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| True |
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Feb 07th 2017 | 182
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| Charlie Rangel is Puerto Rican |
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Feb 03rd 2017 | 7
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| Charlie Rangel was born in Harlem. >>> Black |
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Feb 03rd 2017 | 8
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| His father is Puerto Rican, his mother is African American |
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Feb 03rd 2017 | 29
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| That's pretty interesting. |
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Feb 03rd 2017 | 9
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| he's not Black. Doesn't identify AS Black. Is a member of the Latino |
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Feb 03rd 2017 | 10
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| Black and Latino are not mutually exclusive are they? |
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Feb 03rd 2017 | 22
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 Yes, they are. |
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Feb 03rd 2017 | 32
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| I missed the Black versus black distinction. Never been inclined to |
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Feb 03rd 2017 | 34
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| it's about where your ppl from. |
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Feb 03rd 2017 | 37
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| RE: I missed the Black versus black distinction. Never been inclined to... |
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Feb 03rd 2017 | 39
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| *sigh* let me be less nuanced, I think it's a silly counter-productive |
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Feb 05th 2017 | 55
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| Not at all similar to that nonsense. |
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Feb 05th 2017 | 56
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| Black is a shorthand term for the national ethnicity of the |
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Feb 05th 2017 | 66
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| *Yawn* I don't need the blacksplaining, as I said before, I know the |
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Feb 05th 2017 | 70
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| Didn't realize you had a super personal stake in this debate. |
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Feb 05th 2017 | 71
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| *cracks knuckle* You think this is out of a concern my wife isn't |
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Feb 05th 2017 | 72
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| your wife is of african descent. she is black. |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 78
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| If you answered all my question you'd see how flismy the distinction is.... |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 82
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| Chill regular (c) SPM |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 81
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| I thought you were Asian for some reason..... |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 84
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| It's the screenname |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 87
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| Why can't Black* Americans have their OWN identity? |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 83
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| Doesn't bother me. It just doesn't hold up to any scrutiny. |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 90
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| Black Americans have a unique set of circumstances that led us to now... |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 103
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| i'm ok with that reason...Capitalization is a joke though |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 107
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| I agree. I wish is that there was a cultural name for Black Americans |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 110
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| it's such a cluster of a title... |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 115
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| Why is the born in the US so flimsy to you? It's THE most |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 120
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| what about where you are born has to do with culture? |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 121
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| It has everything to do with it with regards to this discussion. |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 126
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| smh |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 129
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| You're making this more complicated than it needs to be. |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 138
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| RE: You're making this more complicated than it needs to be. |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 157
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| We're the only diasporic group that has open antipathy and antagonism |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 161
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| No one said they weren't open to options. African-American ain't it |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 112
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| I would say the diaspora co-opted the word black as an identifier |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 159
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| Very practically speaking, what is a difference in the experience of |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 113
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| they have a choice. |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 137
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| But what are my kids? Black or black? |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 141
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| your kids are Black |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 142
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| How does that work? Because they have one Black parent? |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 145
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| yes and yes |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 150
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| because we been conditioned to put everyone before us. |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 135
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| We've been conditioned to divide ourselves up in arbitrary ways |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 146
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| nah.. Black folk have always been inclusive |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 153
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| Thank you. Our desire to be overly inclusive doesn't help us. |
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Feb 03rd 2017 | 28
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| Wow. Black and Latino/Hispanic are not mutually exclusive |
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Feb 03rd 2017 | 44
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| B vs b fam. |
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Feb 05th 2017 | 57
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| there are black Americans in the CBC right now and have been |
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Feb 05th 2017 | 67
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| Shirley was Black |
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Feb 05th 2017 | 74
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| Her parents were from Guiana and Barbados. I.E. neither of them |
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Feb 05th 2017 | 75
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| not my definition. you born here, you Black. period. |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 77
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| So u think she was raised with the same culture as Black Americans ? |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 86
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| where's home when her parents are gone? |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 89
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| You and Bin need to get together and work out your definitions of "Black... |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 91
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| it's pretty arbitrary |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 93
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| That man got his own stance on the matter. He's allowed that... |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 96
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| if people who are Black can't agree on what qualifies... |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 100
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| Most Black folks do agree though. |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 111
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| if u say it...it must be true... |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 118
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| It's a how many angels can stand on the head of a pin argument to me. |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 102
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| I don't think this is the case at all. |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 152
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| ^^^fluid j seems to be off message with This |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 136
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| Yes, I see where he's coming from, but I'm not there .......... yet. |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 140
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| I guess the distinction for u with this guy is that u think it's politic... |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 149
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| That's def. a big hangup I see for him. |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 151
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| So wait...the problem is that he's not "culturally black?" |
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Feb 03rd 2017 | 11
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| "culturally black" =/= Black. |
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Feb 03rd 2017 | 12
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| RE: "culturally black" =/= Black. |
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Feb 03rd 2017 | 13
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| one key aspect is related to birth IMO. |
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Feb 03rd 2017 | 14
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| RE: one key aspect is related to birth IMO. |
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Feb 03rd 2017 | 15
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| His root is the Dominican Republic. |
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Feb 03rd 2017 | 16
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| some of those people that gave their lives weren't born in America |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 123
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| Thus my statement that the Puerto Rican thing was a personal issue |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 128
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| If you are black AND ________ then you aren't Black |
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Feb 03rd 2017 | 17
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| ask for census, college essay, shopping mall survey |
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Feb 03rd 2017 | 18
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| Obama went from black to Black right? |
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Feb 03rd 2017 | 19
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| No. |
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Feb 03rd 2017 | 20
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| Obama was born in the US...thus he's Black. |
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Feb 03rd 2017 | 21
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| so black latino born in the US= not Black? |
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Feb 03rd 2017 | 24
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| Where did I say that? I specifically said that being born in the US |
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Feb 03rd 2017 | 25
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| it's more about where your ppl from. |
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Feb 03rd 2017 | 36
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| he black. his kids are Black. his wife is Black. |
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Feb 03rd 2017 | 35
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| i think obama got in kinda under the radar |
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Feb 03rd 2017 | 26
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| Obama clearly said in his biography he went looking for Blackness |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 79
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| OK so this is some wishy washy definition put your finger to the wind |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 147
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| no its pretty straight forward & common sense |
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Feb 07th 2017 | 177
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| We've been had our own thing without this made up bullshit. |
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Feb 07th 2017 | 181
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| It seems weird that ethnic caucuses will be mutually exclusive. |
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Feb 03rd 2017 | 23
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| If we have the same 'enemy', share the same ideals, and |
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Feb 03rd 2017 | 27
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| The level of genuine camaraderie btwn Blacks & Dominicans in NY is nil |
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Feb 03rd 2017 | 30
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| Man every Dominic Chick I know got a black dude |
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Feb 03rd 2017 | 33
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| That's why I had to say "genuine". Black men & Dominican women are |
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Feb 03rd 2017 | 41
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| Hold up, Dominican Chicks are more of a catch for Black Men than Black |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 98
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| interesting....did not know that |
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Feb 03rd 2017 | 38
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| The CBC is bigger than New York City though. |
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Feb 03rd 2017 | 40
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| Man if we're not getting along HERE, we're not getting along ANYWHERE |
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Feb 03rd 2017 | 42
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| This post gon raise my blood pressure. |
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Feb 03rd 2017 | 43
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| Please expound. |
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Feb 03rd 2017 | 45
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| It raised mine |
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Feb 03rd 2017 | 47
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| This is repulsive. Let that brotha in. If they had invited him to join |
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Feb 03rd 2017 | 46
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| This is how I feel |
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Feb 03rd 2017 | 48
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| let one of your Black asses try to join the legislative latinos. |
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Feb 03rd 2017 | 50
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| They'd answer the door like,"Who is it?" |
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Feb 03rd 2017 | 51
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| ^^^^sees it. |
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Feb 05th 2017 | 58
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| if they were a black Latino I highly doubt their would be an issue |
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Feb 05th 2017 | 68
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| . |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 92
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| RE: Dominican man accepts blackness, is deemed not black enough by CBC |
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Feb 03rd 2017 | 52
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| ^^^^sees it. |
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Feb 05th 2017 | 59
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| Not for nothing, Espaillat is darker than PuertoRican Charlie...& ACP |
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Feb 04th 2017 | 53
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| When Latino & Black issues conflict, who's side he gonna be on? |
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Feb 05th 2017 | 60
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| Caucus side |
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Feb 05th 2017 | 62
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| If i'm not mistaken, he's in the Latino Caucus already. |
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Feb 05th 2017 | 63
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| The Congressional Hispanic Caucus is completely Democratic. |
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Feb 05th 2017 | 65
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| right!?!? What highly unlikely conflicts between the two are these |
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Feb 05th 2017 | 69
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| OH i'm DEF. on the Latino's ain't us tip...... I done seen things..... |
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Feb 05th 2017 | 73
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| Cool. Work out ur prejudices. Or don't but recognize ur part of the |
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Feb 05th 2017 | 76
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| What IS the problem with it? I still have not read a concise reason |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 99
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| one issue is... |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 101
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| Not sure why you think i'm hellbent, or unique in my stance on this.. |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 114
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| who said you were unique? |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 116
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| I see that you haven't peeped that we ain't on that insult shit around |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 122
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| think better... |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 124
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| smh. |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 125
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| lol |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 133
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| What are or would be the Latino & Black issues? |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 156
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| Both Rangel and Espaillat are on some BS |
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Feb 04th 2017 | 54
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| The CBC is a joke tho |
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Feb 05th 2017 | 61
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| yes, there's that too....lol |
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Feb 05th 2017 | 64
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| LOL |
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Feb 07th 2017 | 187
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| for what it's worth, he was a member of |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 80
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| ^^^reply will be ignored. It's better to say he's never ID as b/Black |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 88
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| State issues & agendas affecting minorities are sometime better |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 105
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| at that level words like black carry a different meaning if any |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 85
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| But he IS unequivocally black tho so...I don't get it |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 94
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| Some of yall as bad as the Dominicans trying to seperate themselves |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 95
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| Please expound. I'm not versed in that struggle, but i'm open to learnin... |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 97
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| RE: Please expound. I'm not versed in that struggle, but i'm open to lea... |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 104
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| No, and I think you're being intentionally obtuse here |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 106
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| Define the proper noun. I am begging yall to do it in a consistent mann... |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 108
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| As we're using it here on OKP: Black:black as Jamaican:black |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 117
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| but here's the rub |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 119
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| How does Black not acknowledge that? It provides a very distinct |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 127
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| How does it acknowledge it? |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 130
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| Proper noun vs. noun. |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 131
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| What's wrong with Black Americans? |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 132
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| Black American works, but it can be as ambiguous as simply "Black" |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 139
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| But that doesn't explain how a child of immigrants like Shirley Chisholm |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 144
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| it sucks as both |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 109
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| Black folks ain't |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 162
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| IMO they only claim it when it's convenient |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 134
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| Damn what Dominican chick broke your heart? |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 143
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| Perfect example. She clearly doesn't have "our" best interests at heart.... |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 148
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| ^^^^^ |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 155
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| Jesus Christ |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 158
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| no, but it broke my wife's heart in graduate school |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 154
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| The anti-blackness from Dominicans is dumb high... |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 160
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| not saying you are lying but you have had a lot of bad experiences with |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 164
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| I live in NYC... |
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Feb 06th 2017 | 165
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| But why are you ascribing to the racist idealogy of racist Dominicans |
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Feb 07th 2017 | 167
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| PRs & Africans don't have a "Trujillo" like figure |
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Feb 07th 2017 | 168
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| You just said "Africans don't have a "Trujillo" like figure". SMH. |
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Feb 07th 2017 | 169
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| It depends on which country you're referring to. Anyway, have fun coppi... |
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Feb 07th 2017 | 170
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| First you say No African Nation has "Trujillo". Now you are saying |
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Feb 07th 2017 | 171
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| I'm not moving the goalposts. I hastily made a blanket statement regard... |
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Feb 07th 2017 | 175
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| Mero is actually referencing Rasheed Thurmond (rip) with that |
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Feb 07th 2017 | 172
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| Dude was hilarious |
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Feb 07th 2017 | 174
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| do you have another country you consider your home? |
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Feb 07th 2017 | 176
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| Alladis |
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Feb 07th 2017 | 178
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| Do you not view Espaillat's attempt at joining the CBC as an opt in move... |
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Feb 07th 2017 | 179
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| great! stop waving the dominican flag & cmon in! |
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Feb 07th 2017 | 183
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| The idea that you can Opt in & out of Blackness is bullshit. |
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Feb 07th 2017 | 180
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| never heard of the passing phenomenon, eh? interesting. |
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Feb 07th 2017 | 184
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| Passing requires two things. |
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Feb 07th 2017 | 186
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| Obama can opt in but Clarence damn sure can't opt out |
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Feb 07th 2017 | 185
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