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""Illadelph Halflife" and "Beats Rhymes and Life""


  

          

what do you think caused the roots and tribe to
change their tones of their music with these albums?
Illadelph was definitely a departure from the playful vibe of dywm
as was Br&l in comparison to the 3 previous albums
You guys are a little older than me so i think you
guys can give a little more perspective on it

at the moment "BR&L it my fav tribe album
"Get a Hold" "The Hop" and esp "Wordplay"...
wordplay has always been a top 5 tribe song for me

it always bounces from that and "Midnight Marauders"
i like the vibe of it, its a little darker than the first 3
but soundwise its a little cleaner, though i like
the sound of low end theory ALOT...

But frm what i see ppl really weren't feeling BR&L
like that? Explain

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"Illadelph Halflife" and "Beats Rhymes and Life" [View all] , illEskoBar221, Thu Jan-07-16 05:40 PM
 
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You can also throw De La Soul is Dead in that same mix.
Jan 07th 2016
1
I never thought Late registration was dark
Jan 07th 2016
6
      LR had some darker tracks like "Roses." Even "Diamonds are forever"
Jan 07th 2016
8
           "Touch the sky" "We major" and celebration and Late are peak happy kanye...
Jan 07th 2016
10
                Yea it was surely balanced, wasn't dark as a whole
Jan 07th 2016
11
                I would say mature more than Dark.
Jan 07th 2016
13
                     agreed
Jan 08th 2016
29
Every 3-4 years from the late 80's to the late 90's, the overall sound
Jan 07th 2016
2
i didnt really get a mailed in feel from BR&L
Jan 07th 2016
7
that must be the first album you heard from them
Jan 07th 2016
16
      I reject the notion that they mailed it in on Beats Rhymes and Life...
Jan 08th 2016
23
      The biggest glaring thing.....
Jan 08th 2016
24
      Really? I never got that vibe from labcab.
Jan 08th 2016
33
           i think fat lip was the only one trippin
Jan 08th 2016
41
                For sure he was the guiltiest party.
Jan 08th 2016
42
                     Hmmm... thats interesting
Jan 08th 2016
54
                     NO, to all of that
Jan 09th 2016
64
                     The change in tone was a response to the culture at the time.
Jan 10th 2016
76
                          Lip's verse on that song was one of my faves.
Jan 10th 2016
80
                               Man! He blacked out.
Jan 10th 2016
88
      the vibe was gone on BR&L
Jan 08th 2016
25
      Dilla and Consequence?
Jan 08th 2016
30
           maybe...
Jan 08th 2016
35
                Just in terms of the beats.....
Jan 08th 2016
55
      they pretty much said it on the Doc, IIRC...Phife was living in Atlanta ...
Jan 08th 2016
45
      Love Movement shoulda/coulda been classic
Jan 08th 2016
51
      whats crazy is nah...i purchased the first 3 in high school
Jan 08th 2016
28
      their albums were groundbreaking when they dropped
Jan 08th 2016
36
           AKA Vince Staples Vs Nore lol
Jan 08th 2016
38
      Tip was beastin on that album
Jan 10th 2016
84
RE: Every 3-4 years from the late 80's to the late 90's, the overall sou...
Jan 08th 2016
39
      RE: Quest has said repeatedly. . .
Jan 10th 2016
89
IH was the roots trying to make a more "serious" splash in the rap game
Jan 07th 2016
3
this is also a question ?uest has been asked many times in interviews
Jan 07th 2016
12
he was tired of being fronted on
Jan 07th 2016
20
I also recall an interview where ?uest explained
Jan 08th 2016
47
I love Beats Rhymes and Life
Jan 07th 2016
4
It's actually interesting to argue what their third best album is.
Jan 07th 2016
5
I didnt like all of the features on the Love movement
Jan 07th 2016
9
I never got the consequence hate. Objectively dude is a better MC
Jan 07th 2016
14
      consequence is a better rapper but Phife had a better voice
Jan 07th 2016
15
      Being better than Phife in 96 isn't a compliment
Jan 07th 2016
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      I felt like his low definitely gave them a little more edge
Jan 08th 2016
31
      Nah I wouldn't say "better". Also his voice sounded more like Q-Tip
Jan 10th 2016
69
I recall ? saying IH was meant to be an answer to boom bap
Jan 07th 2016
17
I think it was a case of
Jan 08th 2016
27
You can only make so much "happy go lucky" albums
Jan 07th 2016
18
Hip Hop changed
Jan 07th 2016
19
I think Tip wanted to cash out on one Tribe album
Jan 08th 2016
26
come one give us another post about how much
Jan 08th 2016
34
      the truth hurts!!
Jan 08th 2016
37
      i'm feeling just fine. both albums good
Jan 08th 2016
49
           Stop being weird
Jan 08th 2016
52
                stop posting washed
Jan 09th 2016
62
                     I have no idea what that means
Jan 10th 2016
86
      I'm a tribe fan and bought Love Movement on the day it came out
Jan 08th 2016
44
           and it's still a good ass album. not wack
Jan 08th 2016
48
                I honestly didn't know people felt this way about TLM and BRL...they're ...
Jan 08th 2016
50
                     That was basically the consensus though.
Jan 08th 2016
56
                     Tribe fans on my campus were pissed with BR&L
Jan 08th 2016
58
                     It was definitely less jazzy.
Jan 08th 2016
59
                     If we're being real honest, it's mainly LET and MM that people
Jan 08th 2016
60
                          ^^^^
Jan 09th 2016
61
                     this really one of them not until i got on OKP for me
Jan 09th 2016
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                          90% of tribe songs? Bwahahaha
Jan 10th 2016
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                               lol
Jan 10th 2016
73
                                    I think the polished mixed is what they like about BR&L
Jan 10th 2016
78
                                    Perhaps.
Jan 10th 2016
82
                                         Yeah, I was about to say it lacked that dusty Tribe sound
Jan 10th 2016
85
                                    christ, did you really just type that stupid trash
Jan 12th 2016
100
why question is why the long hiatus between MM and BR&L?
Jan 08th 2016
32
      did you watch the BR&L documentary?
Jan 08th 2016
40
           I Did, expecting them to really talk about each album
Jan 08th 2016
43
                They glossed over it because it was sub par
Jan 08th 2016
53
                I wonder this myself.
Jan 08th 2016
57
                     All i know is Ali's solo production is heeeeeat.
Jan 10th 2016
77
                          Apparently Tip actually produced that song. lol
Jan 11th 2016
98
                               lol im mad you said this now i gotta go through a google rabbit hole.
Jan 11th 2016
99
RE: "Illadelph Halflife" and "Beats Rhymes and Life"
Jan 07th 2016
22
I hate BRL
Jan 08th 2016
46
Beats Rhymes & Life has always been great to me
Jan 09th 2016
65
I'm gonna have to re-listen to "The Pressure" because.....
Jan 10th 2016
66
I agree for the most part but those rating are off...
Jan 10th 2016
67
12/10?? Huh..lol
Jan 10th 2016
70
You hate What Really Goes On but Baby Phife's Return is 9/10?
Jan 10th 2016
71
      yup that beat is fire
Jan 10th 2016
90
           but yo Tip, bring in the chorus cause I'm losing my breath
Jan 10th 2016
96
Im going to go out on a limb here with a theory
Jan 10th 2016
68
^^^^yes
Jan 10th 2016
74
Agreed.
Jan 10th 2016
75
It wasn't just the music though
Jan 10th 2016
81
Illadelph was definitely a surprise...
Jan 10th 2016
79
The Roots sorta caved in to market demands and Tribe at that
Jan 10th 2016
83
I agree about the Roots but caving is probably the wrong word.
Jan 10th 2016
87
      I use that word because 'The Roots,' just like Nas when 'Illmatic' was
Jan 10th 2016
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           lack of commercial success of "Midnight Marauders"?
Jan 10th 2016
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                MM went platinum almost 2 yrs after its release
Jan 10th 2016
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                     Yeah, this isn't correct
Jan 10th 2016
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                     Well let me substítute 'commercial' for 'mainstream' success
Jan 10th 2016
97
                     36 Chambers took longer to go platinum and came out the same day
Jan 10th 2016
95

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