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BabySoulRebel
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10. "I'm gonna try my best to address this calmly"
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>Hear me out: I know women speak out every day against rape,
>but I was listening to this story of this Duke basketball
>player who allegedly sexually assaulted two female students
>but they never reported it to the university or to the police,
>and it got me to thinking that if their stories were true what
>I'd do in that situation.

Did you ever consider that your story could be true
you could even have evidence
and STILL
no one will give a shit?
This is a case out of Detroit where some rape kits sat for close to THIRTY YEARS before seeing ANY sort of processing: http://www.wxyz.com/news/100-serial-rapists-identified-after-rape-kits-from-detroit-crime-lab-are-finally-processed


>I felt like if I was one of those women and I was raped that
>not only would I be speaking out about it, but I'd be doing so
>in a much more adamant and aggressive tone than what I
>generally hear. I'd probably hold a press conference and say
>something along the lines of "not only did this walking piece
>of shit rape me, but if the justice system doesn't do
>something about it then I will." I just feel like we always
>have these stories where the women are very quiet and demure
>about the whole situation. I think women should be MORE
>outwardly angry when this happens like, "yo this shit is
>fucked up!!!"

How you feel/think isn't and simply can't be a measuring stick for the validity of a woman's rape claim.

>Female rape victims always want men to understand their plight
>better, and I think that approach is something that men can
>understand a lot more clearly than the current way most of
>these situations play out. It's more visceral and that usually
>connects with men better.

You're operating from a place of privilege. Why do we as women need to "connect" and appeal to men's understanding? Where is the effort on men's side to understand the micro aggressions we deal with on an everday basis, the effort to get to know and respect us simply because we are your fellow human beings?

>
>Do you think women who came at it like that would be judged
>more than they already are via the "she was asking for it"
>type of dickheads out there? I think their clear anger and
>outrage would speak loudly to those people who react like
>that.

Dude
We get judged for EVERYFUCKINGTHING
for being a prude
for being a slut
for being what society wants us to be
for being what WE want to be
This point is irrelevant.
>
>This is how I'd like to
>think I'd react but the reality could be way different if I
>was in the situation.

This is the most accurate statement in the OP. In summation all the points you've brought up boil back down to no one giving a shit in the first place. I don't like how you're framing your view to fit the "perfect victim" narrative. In trying to understand how rape victims feel, maybe you should ask us why we did/did not report our attacks instead of making it about you and your way of thinking.

Just my 2 cents.

here for dis.

  

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Do women speak out against rape aggressively enough? [View all] , PROMO, Tue Mar-03-15 12:21 PM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
Unfold lawn chair grabs a whiskey double on ice
Mar 03rd 2015
1
*sets up my own lawn chair and pulls out 2 cigars for us*
Mar 03rd 2015
27
*grabs a folding chair from the card table*
Mar 03rd 2015
32
      bourbon
Mar 03rd 2015
34
WHAT I'D DO
Mar 03rd 2015
2
for the sake and ANY male currently trying to holla at a okfee please de...
Mar 03rd 2015
3
Thank you for this disclaimer. I was about to come in here and
Mar 03rd 2015
7
We looking for them numbers on a Tuesday huh?
Mar 03rd 2015
4
nope. i don't even do numbers bruh.
Mar 03rd 2015
16
not.like.this.
Mar 03rd 2015
5
yesterday he laughed at the He-Man Haters club mentality
Mar 03rd 2015
15
*blink*
Mar 03rd 2015
6
so much you've failed to account for here.
Mar 03rd 2015
8
yes, i do realize there's things that are tough to account for.
Mar 03rd 2015
11
      try this
Mar 03rd 2015
20
      word. maybe the point was lost in the sauce from jump.
Mar 03rd 2015
29
      how about this
Mar 03rd 2015
21
what if a dude raped you, would you speak up then?
Mar 03rd 2015
9
men are expected to go "handle" it with that party
Mar 03rd 2015
38
good points.
Mar 03rd 2015
14
      you seem to imagine a lot of things
Mar 03rd 2015
19
           i'm posing a hypothetical based off a personal observation.
Mar 03rd 2015
24
                it's not a hypothetical situation. it's a real one.
Mar 03rd 2015
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                     reply 29
Mar 03rd 2015
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                          if you'd like to learn, there are ways that don't involve dumb questions
Mar 03rd 2015
35
postjack: what about the Greg Hardy domestic violence case?
Mar 03rd 2015
12
i'd need to do more research to answer your questions.
Mar 03rd 2015
17
      ehhh, I wold prefer the women answer. Prolly should have made
Mar 03rd 2015
23
Noooooooo! Not like this!
Mar 03rd 2015
13
go to jail for a night.
Mar 03rd 2015
18
- - -
Mar 03rd 2015
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RE: - - -
Mar 03rd 2015
25
good points.
Mar 03rd 2015
31
I stopped here:
Mar 03rd 2015
28
but por qua?
Mar 03rd 2015
33
The better question is do men speak out enough against rape
Mar 03rd 2015
36
good reply
Mar 03rd 2015
37

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