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Source: Darren Wilson says Michael Brown kept charging at him
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17 minutes ago • By Robert Patrick rpatrick@post-dispatch.com 314-621-5154 and Christine Byers cbyers@post-dispatch.com 314-340-8087
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FERGUSON • Police Officer Darren Wilson told investigators that in a struggle for his pistol inside a police SUV, Michael Brown pressed the barrel of Wilson’s gun against the officer’s hip, according to a source with knowledge of his statements.

Wilson tried to prevent Brown from reaching the trigger, the source said, and when he thought he had control he fired. But Brown’s hand was blocking the mechanism.

When Wilson got two shots off, Brown was hit in the hand and ran. Wilson fired again when Brown turned back and charged at him, Wilson told investigators.

The white officer’s shooting of the unarmed black 18-year-old triggered protests, riots and a national debate over race and policing.

In the most detailed account of Wilson’s version of the Aug. 9 event to be made public, the source described how the encounter started, Brown’s refusal to stop charging at Wilson and the injuries suffered by both men.

Wilson’s version is only one of many told by various witnesses. Two witnesses say Wilson grabbed Brown through the window and tried to pull him into the SUV. Some say that after Brown broke free, he either did not move back toward Wilson, or was stumbling or walking when he was shot.

Investigators have repeatedly declined to comment on details of the investigation.

Told of Wilson’s version of events, Brown family lawyer Anthony Gray scoffed, calling it “absurd from beginning to end” and a “concocted version of events that nobody supports,” referring to other public witness statements.

Gray said the version of Dorian Johnson, who was with Brown, was more plausible. He said that the only important part of the story was the final few shots fired and that Wilson had to be justified in taking every shot.

“This story just doesn’t even make good nonsense.”

WILSON’S STORY

After he finished with a call for a sick baby, Wilson said, he spotted Brown and his friend, Dorian Johnson, walking down the middle of Canfield Drive, with traffic passing on both sides.

Wilson asked or ordered the men to move to the sidewalk, said the source, who did not want to be identified because a St. Louis County grand jury and the Department of Justice are still investigating.

Johnson pointed out the pair’s destination, over and behind Wilson’s marked police Chevrolet Tahoe SUV, and kept walking.

Brown walked by holding cigarillos in his hand, and cursed Wilson, the source said.

Wilson told investigators that after Brown passed by, Wilson realized that Johnson’s clothing matched a recent radio alert about a suspect in a robbery at a nearby market where cigarillos had been taken. Wilson radioed for assistance and backed up his SUV to Brown and Johnson.

The source said Wilson told investigators he had placed the SUV in park. When Wilson tried to get out of the SUV, Brown slammed its door shut and punched Wilson in the left side of the face through the open window, the source said.

Wilson, trapped in the front seat, couldn’t use his pepper spray in the confined space because it would incapacitate him as well. His baton was at the back of his utility belt, where he was essentially sitting on it. He did not have a Taser. So he drew his gun.

Brown grabbed the pistol using his right hand, with his elbow against Wilson. Wilson described Brown as incredibly strong, the source said.

During the struggle, Brown handed the cigarillos to Johnson, then swung his left hand and hit Wilson on the right side of the face. Wilson said he almost lost consciousness, the source said. Brown then began to use his left hand in the struggle for the gun, and turned the pistol until the barrel was against Wilson’s hip.

Wilson positioned his finger to try to prevent Brown from reaching the trigger. When Wilson pulled himself back toward the passenger side of the SUV, Brown’s grip loosened enough for Wilson to try to pull the trigger, the source said.

But the gun didn’t fire. Wilson said he believed that Brown’s hand may have been on the hammer, preventing it from moving, the source said.

The second time Wilson pulled the trigger, the gun did fire. Wilson told investigators he thought the bullet had struck Brown in the hand, the source said. Broken window glass was everywhere, and blood was on the door, the gun and Wilson’s hands. At the time, Wilson said, he wasn’t sure whose blood it was.

The struggle continued, and Wilson attempted to pull the trigger twice more. The source said Wilson thought Brown’s hand may have interfered again. Wilson was able to fire a second shot, and Brown ran.

Wilson used his radio to report that shots had been fired and ask for additional cars, but during the struggle, his radio had been switched from the Ferguson channel, the source said.

Wilson said he had gotten out of the SUV and chased Brown.

The source said Wilson did not recall yelling or saying anything then, but Brown had stopped and turned.

Wilson said Brown had not had his hands up; his left hand was slightly out, fingers pointing down. His right hand was grasping his shirt. Then, Wilson told investigators, Brown began running toward him.

Wilson said he had yelled for Brown to stop, then fired, the source said. Brown flinched as if he was hit, and Wilson said he had stopped shooting. Brown continued running toward him, and Wilson said he had fired several more shots. The source said that Wilson had recalled that Brown’s head was down when the last shot hit him there.

When Brown fell to the ground, his forward momentum caused his feet to fly up, Wilson said.

Wilson then made another radio call, for an ambulance.

Later, Wilson drove himself to the police station and was taken to the hospital by other officers. Wilson said he had bruises on the left and right sides of his face and scratches on his neck, the source said. He had no broken bones.

THE AUTOPSY NARRATIVE

Brown’s autopsy documents include a summary from St. Louis County Detective Patrick J. Hokamp’s preliminary investigation. His account was similar to Wilson’s.

The autopsy report, obtained by the Post-Dispatch, also says that Brown had THC, the mind-altering ingredient of marijuana, in his blood and urine. The report says a “leafy green substance” was submitted as evidence, and a person with knowledge of the investigation said the substance was marijuana. That source also said that Brown’s blood and DNA had been found inside the SUV and on Wilson’s gun.

WITNESSES DISAGREE

Most of the witnesses who have spoken publicly saw only a portion of the incident.

Johnson, 22, has said that Wilson used a profanity when he told them to get on the sidewalk, and nearly sideswiped them as he backed up. Wilson opened the door but it bounced off the men, Johnson has said, and Wilson then grabbed Brown by the throat and, later, grabbed him by the arm and tried to pull him into the car. Johnson said that Wilson’s gun had been out and that he had shot Brown once before Brown, who was bleeding, ran away.

Johnson said that Wilson had chased Brown and shot him once before Brown turned around. Johnson said that Wilson had fatally shot Brown as Brown was getting to the ground with his hands in the air.

Several other witnesses have said that Wilson fired at Brown’s fleeing form, perhaps causing Brown to turn when he was some distance from the SUV.

From there, the accounts differ. Their versions have included that Brown stood still, or walked, staggered, stumbled or fell toward Wilson. Some witnesses said Brown’s hands were up; others said they were not. One witness said Wilson was backing away as he fired at Brown.

None quoted in media accounts has said that Brown charged Wilson.

  

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Justice for Mike Brown (part 4) [View all] , CherNic, Mon Aug-25-14 10:19 PM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
let me turn on cnn
Aug 25th 2014
1
Al is on stage. Jesse in the pews. choir is showing OUT!!!!!!
Aug 25th 2014
5
i love it when ppl have REAL church in a situation like this.
Aug 25th 2014
2
these nyggas is showing OUT in that chapel. floor SHAKING
Aug 25th 2014
3
me too. I've already cried and the service has barely started.
Aug 25th 2014
4
      turn to ya neighbor and say, 'you DID come to church!'
Aug 25th 2014
6
if i had a church funeral my ppl would even make ME into a holy roller.
Aug 25th 2014
7
We don't do that GAY STUFF and just give you some dap!!!
Aug 25th 2014
8
I thought she said gang stuff.
Aug 25th 2014
10
anyone have a streaming link?
Aug 25th 2014
9
RE: anyone have a streaming link?
Aug 25th 2014
11
      another
Aug 25th 2014
13
he's doing too much w/this biblical numerological sermonizing.
Aug 25th 2014
12
YOU BETTA PREACH, REV AL!!! Tell it!
Aug 25th 2014
14
Live Feed.... Here
Aug 25th 2014
15
Al is real good at this part
Aug 25th 2014
16
Al turned it out...The Lamb and The Lion will lay together....
Aug 25th 2014
17
i love all of his commentary on the naysaying re: the protests.
Aug 25th 2014
18
Ms Browns dude is killin me!!
Aug 25th 2014
19
I wish more young people were able to speak
Aug 25th 2014
20
The police killed my cousin last night in Chicago
Aug 25th 2014
21
whoa..sorry for your loss...this is fkd up
Aug 25th 2014
23
wow...I'm so sorry for your loss
Aug 25th 2014
25
Sorry for your loss... That's not far from me.
Aug 25th 2014
29
I saw this as I got dressed this morning
Aug 25th 2014
30
:-( Sorry for your loss....
Aug 25th 2014
31
Read about this earlier
Aug 25th 2014
32
RIP DeSean
Aug 25th 2014
37
thanks for all the support... Just 10 months ago DeSean was shot
Aug 25th 2014
38
woke up thinking about you and your fam
Aug 26th 2014
44
is that his pops in the pic? As a man with a son...
Aug 26th 2014
45
im terribly sorry stone
Aug 25th 2014
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wow.
Aug 26th 2014
43
tragic. very sorry to hear that =(
Sep 06th 2014
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Condolences. This is terrible and ridiculous. We got to fix it.
Sep 07th 2014
65
wow. my condolences
Sep 09th 2014
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damn
Aug 25th 2014
22
Rev. Al Sharpton is a Preacher all day long!
Aug 25th 2014
24
man, I've been in that church so many times it ain't funny...
Aug 25th 2014
26
Mad I missed it. Any chance you think they'll replay it?
Aug 25th 2014
27
Mad I missed it. Any chance you think they'll replay it?
Aug 25th 2014
28
This pic of his father....my Lord
Aug 25th 2014
33
God... that is uncensored grief.
Aug 25th 2014
34
they should not have shown that. i cant even imagine
Aug 25th 2014
36
      Yeah...
Aug 25th 2014
41
wow
Aug 25th 2014
35
POWERFUL. We need to see toll, the pain, the grief and affects
Aug 26th 2014
46
      We live in a cold world and colder country
Sep 04th 2014
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Oops! Edit.
Aug 25th 2014
39
so does this mark the end of the news cycle?
Aug 25th 2014
40
SoWhat (and other lawyers)....how long does grand jury take?
Aug 26th 2014
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there's no set time.
Aug 26th 2014
48
im watching nancy grace
Aug 26th 2014
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DOJ is going to investigate Ferguson PD
Sep 04th 2014
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It is so crazy how fast this story disappered
Sep 04th 2014
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things are still happening. people still protesting.
Sep 04th 2014
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there are folks still paying attention to it.
Sep 04th 2014
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oop
Sep 04th 2014
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      News Cycle like anything else.
Sep 06th 2014
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RE: It is so crazy how fast this story disappered
Sep 04th 2014
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martin and dunn were not stand your ground cases
Sep 09th 2014
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media moved on, ppl/stories didn't
Sep 04th 2014
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      also - changes to court procedures in Ferguson to chill
Sep 11th 2014
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Whatever happent to the DOJ autopsy????
Sep 04th 2014
55
still part of an ongoing investigation I'm assuming.
Sep 04th 2014
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.
Sep 04th 2014
58
eyewitness accounts
Sep 06th 2014
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Ferguson Police Chief Lied About Why He Released Alleged Robbery Tape:
Sep 06th 2014
63
a full month and Darren Wilson is somewhere playing Madden
Sep 09th 2014
66
9/8 boycott was a success btw nm
Sep 09th 2014
67
more deets
Sep 09th 2014
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if it ain't on Reddit, Neogaf, etc.
Sep 09th 2014
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      mofo you got a Neogaf login?
Sep 11th 2014
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      LOL @ You expecting white niggas on Neogaf and Reddit to care.
Sep 11th 2014
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           if something important happens I expect it to show up somewhere
Sep 17th 2014
83
New Michael Brown shooting witnesses describe scene
Sep 11th 2014
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Hopefully this puts a fucking sock in Hannity and O'Reilly
Sep 11th 2014
73
wilson is on paid vacation with a nice fund raiser
Sep 11th 2014
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Post-Dispatch: Darren Wilson testified for grand jury
Sep 17th 2014
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lol...my bad
Sep 17th 2014
79
      What kind of mess was that?
Sep 17th 2014
80
      hunh?
Sep 17th 2014
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      You gotta answer the survey question to see the full story
Sep 17th 2014
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don't know how factual this is
Sep 18th 2014
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somehow his memorial burned down yesterday
Sep 24th 2014
85
Mayhem again tonight. Police attacked protestors. Nothing's changed smh
Sep 26th 2014
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USA Today: Ferguson police chief issues apology to Brown family
Sep 26th 2014
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Police Plan for Possible Riots if Brown Cop Not Charged
Oct 07th 2014
88
Ferguson Weekend of Resistance October 10th-13th
Oct 07th 2014
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So this weekend was/is Ferguson October
Oct 12th 2014
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Darren Wilson Recounts a Struggle with Michael Brown (NYT swipe)
Oct 18th 2014
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Eric Holder: Whatever happened to the DOJ autopsy?
Oct 18th 2014
92
The Federal
Oct 18th 2014
93
He's gonna sign autographs with G Zimmerman this time next year
Oct 22nd 2014
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      The second part of your reply is the truest
Oct 22nd 2014
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Well the city/media dropped the, "He had Marijuana in his System" BOMB!
Oct 22nd 2014
96
they released that a while ago, catch up
Oct 22nd 2014
97
Brown shot in hand at close range. Evidence of significant altercation (...
Oct 22nd 2014
99
Grand Juror Suing Prosecutor
Jan 06th 2015
100
I hope this doesn't just blow away in the wind
Jan 06th 2015
101
I'm not sure this has any legs...
Jan 06th 2015
102
      When doing nothing is not an option
Jan 06th 2015
103
           42 U.S. Code § 1983 - Civil action for deprivation of rights
Jan 06th 2015
104
Bar Complaint Filed Against McCulloch
Jan 07th 2015
105
here's the problem though
Jan 07th 2015
106
prosecutor mccollough found lying abt past officer-shooting case
Jan 12th 2015
107
No Charges: U.S. Not Expected to Fault Officer in Ferguson Case
Jan 22nd 2015
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