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silkyhyde
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It's so full of erroneous info, you're really doing peeps a disservice.

Plus, you're already into chords when you haven't established the idea of key (tonality) and scales, which should be covered first.

I'm trying to bulid everyone's knowledge up slowly and logically, so that eventually everyone will be able to understand advanced music theory AND figure out complex stuff on their own. You're not laying down the foundation...you're just jumping in to the "good stuff", which is how folks get lost and give up, because they can't UNDERSTAND why a minor chord is minor, they're just memorizing facts, which is boring. Plus your "facts" below are just plain WRONG.

Now I'm gonna have to spend time undoing the damage.

>A easy way to remember major and minor chords:
>
>First, movement from one key or the root key (ex:C to C# or
>Db) to the next is called a half step and movement from the
>root key to 2 keys over or the next white key (ex:C to D) is a
>whole step.
>So C to C# is a half step and C to D is 2 half steps or a
>whole step.

This is only thing you said that is close to being right...C to C# is a half step, and C to D is a whole step....but it's really still wrong. If you go from E (the white key directly to the right of "2 Black" to the next white key, F, you haven't gone a whole step, but a half step. You've got folks thinking any time you go from one white key to the next white key, it's a whole step. What about B to C? That's WRONG.

>Easiest way for me to remember a chord is by continuously
>counting half steps from
>the root note or key. For example: a Major chord (C-E-G) is
>(1-4-7)

Wrong.

> C being 1 you start
>counting at the
> first black key,

Wrong.

so the
>count will
> go something like 1st black
>key(1),

Wrong.

> 2nd white key(2),

Right.

2nd black
>key(3),

Wrong.

> 3rd white key(4 being E),
>4th white
> key(5), 3rd black key(6),
>5th white
> key(7 being G).

Oh my God...WTF??!!! Stop. Please just stop! E is the third, G is the fifth. A major chord is 1-3-5. A minor chord is 1-b3-5 (b3 is called a "flat third"). This is the UNIVERSAL way of describing chords that all musicians use. The reason you came up with your convoluted way of counting half steps to make chords is because you don't understand how chords are derived from SCALES. That's why if you learn how scales are constructed first, then chords are a snap.

Damn you're confusing folks up unnecessarily. Please fall back and let me explain this stuff in a way that makes sense AND will jibe with all the other musical information out there they will encounter.

If folks buy chord books and fake books and stuff they won't understand what's going on if they learn your personal "system".

Now let me explain all this stuff in a step-by-step manner please, I'm really trying to give everybody a foundation so that they can understand the keyboard and music theory on the level of a knowledgeble musician.

Peace,
Salim

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silkyhyde's Keyboard Seminar 4 newbies....gather 'round, kids! [View all] , silkyhyde, Mon Jan-29-07 08:24 PM
 
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Nice keep it going
Jan 29th 2007
1
Let's learn the black keys!
Jan 29th 2007
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RE: silkyhyde's Keyboard Seminar 4 newbies....gather 'round, kids!
Jan 30th 2007
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RE: ^^^^^^everyone please disregard this post.^^^^^^
Jan 30th 2007
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I'm sorry homie, but there's no logical way to explain counting
Jan 30th 2007
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      RE: I'm sorry homie, but there's no logical way to explain counting
Jan 30th 2007
11
Making melodies with Scales....
Jan 30th 2007
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You got to come correct to post knowledge, man....
Jan 30th 2007
8
great post!
Jan 30th 2007
5
Keys in the ATL, eh?
Jan 30th 2007
9
get at me, dawg (c) DMX
Jan 31st 2007
14
*applauds* BRAVO !
Jan 31st 2007
12
no homo...but I think I love you...and no homo again
Jan 31st 2007
13
Lesson #3: Intro To The Major Scale
Jan 31st 2007
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Lesson #4: The Mathematics of The Major Scale
Jan 31st 2007
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RE: silkyhyde's Keyboard Seminar 4 newbies....gather 'round, kids!
Jan 31st 2007
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Mods, please anchor this post ..It deserves it.
Feb 01st 2007
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