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KoalaLove

Thu Jul-27-00 06:30 AM

  
39. "There's that blind thing again"
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And again i say to you all that I never once suggested that people or society be "blind" to race ideology i simply advocate that we stop allowing the government to use it as a means of social order.

In all the discrimination and the aesthetic reasons you admit to you're begging the question of why we should allow the government to continue to substantiate claims that you admit are not true.

Its one thing if "white" people want to fit in- its a totally different thing if the US government allows and imposes the classifications into which they fit.

I cant say it any more clearly than that. If you understand that race is a lie and you understand what oppression race provides for then we must strike it at the root- you guys only seem willing to fight it at its face; supposing that its what they do and not what they think that brings our conditions to ruin.

In that case you absolve the "white" people who dont "do" anything" but nonetheless perpetuate racial classifications and ideologies to their logical conclusions- that all "colored" people be subordinate to the whim and will of whites.


"While the "labels" for race may be inaccurate at some level they are indicators for clear physical differences that can't be ignored."

What Im urging you to understand is that labels for race are inaccurate on all levels- as they are founded on science that is no longer there to support it. The only manner in which race classification "cant be ignored" is in that it presumes itself as fostering the "indicators for clear physical differences" that are a result not of racial variance but of ethnic and cultural diversity- to allow this to continue will breed further confusion and identity crisis and division among people of "race" and people of culture.

The difference is people of culture- have heritage and tradition and history to fall back on. People of race by and large have nothing of redeeming value as example of their heritage and refuse to admit the horrible deeds that pervade their history.

By refering to culture than the matter of accountability is clear and demonstrative- refer to people as White- and there's nothing demonstrative to hold them accountable for. They'll say- well my family didnt own slaves, my family didnt lynch people- and they'll be right- we'll have no choice but to absolve them.

I propose not that we disregard the fact that they are white- I propose that we expose what "being white" means and hold all people who continue to adopt such ideologies accountable to the crimes committed by and for White people- isnt that fair?

It solves the matter of determining who is accountable for our current conditions more so than the contrary resolves "the fundamental issue."

The fundamental issue as i see it is that people are indeed different but we shouldnt provide or allow ideologies that profess that any of those people are better, superior, or more evolved than others- that is all that race ideology ever had to offer.

We can continue to support race ideology if you want- but where is the solution in that?



K

  

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Why Race is Not Real...Scientifically Speaking [View all] , illosopher, Thu Jul-06-00 06:03 AM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
koala? is that you in disguise?
Jul 06th 2000
1
Truth breeds repetition
KoalaLove
Jul 06th 2000
2
RE: Truth breeds repetition
Jul 06th 2000
6
      now....
Jul 06th 2000
7
           WTF!?
KoalaLove
Jul 07th 2000
10
                After reading that....
Jul 07th 2000
11
RE: koala? is that you in disguise?
Jul 06th 2000
4
si
Jul 06th 2000
3
RE: Is race "real"?
Danger
Jul 06th 2000
5
      a way to beat the lie?
Jul 06th 2000
8
           RE: a way to beat the lie?
Danger
Jul 07th 2000
12
           RE: a way to beat the lie?
Jul 12th 2000
20
           RE: a way to beat the lie?
Jul 07th 2000
13
had an interesting discussion once....
Jul 07th 2000
9
had an interesting discussion once....
AfricanHerbsman
Jul 10th 2000
14
Danger hit the head on the nail!
Jul 11th 2000
15
RE: Danger hit the head on the nail!
Jul 11th 2000
16
      RE: Danger hit the head on the nail!
Jul 11th 2000
17
      RE: Danger hit the head on the nail!
Jul 12th 2000
19
      Race Indicator in dating..
Jul 20th 2000
23
      RE: Danger hit the head on the nail!
Jul 11th 2000
18
           RE: who'sgunna win tha race?
T
Jul 19th 2000
21
                pardon me
Jul 20th 2000
22
My problem with the color blind argument...
Jul 24th 2000
24
Color blindness
KoalaLove
Jul 24th 2000
25
RE: Color blindness
Jul 26th 2000
30
      mad typos...ha
Jul 26th 2000
31
      RE: Color blindness
KoalaLove
Jul 27th 2000
32
      Still didn't answer the question
Jul 27th 2000
34
           YUCK
KoalaLove
Jul 27th 2000
35
           We were calling ourselves black prior to the nationalist movement
Jul 27th 2000
38
          
                I think Spirit asked for an alternative
Jul 27th 2000
42
                     Thats unreasonable
KoalaLove
Jul 27th 2000
44
                          RE: Thats unreasonable
Jul 30th 2000
51
                               spirit likes the yuck
KoalaLove
Jul 31st 2000
57
                                    what we really are?
Aug 01st 2000
64
                                         RE: what we really are?
KoalaLove
Aug 01st 2000
67
                                              RE: what we really are?
Aug 10th 2000
75
           RE: YUCK
Jul 30th 2000
49
           Yuck
KoalaLove
Jul 31st 2000
54
           ps:
Jul 30th 2000
50
                RE: ps:
KoalaLove
Jul 31st 2000
55
           the question
KoalaLove
Jul 27th 2000
36
                furthermore
KoalaLove
Jul 27th 2000
37
                RE: furthermore
Jul 30th 2000
53
                     i just dont give a YUCK!
KoalaLove
Jul 31st 2000
58
                          back to our regularly scheduled convo
Aug 01st 2000
60
                               Phenotypes are not racial characteristics...
Aug 01st 2000
65
                                    Thank you for your help
KoalaLove
Aug 01st 2000
69
                                    RE: Phenotypes are not racial characteristics...
Aug 10th 2000
71
                                         RE: Phenotypes are not racial characteristics...
KoalaLove
Aug 10th 2000
74
                talking long, saying nothing
Jul 30th 2000
52
                     RE: talking long, saying nothing
KoalaLove
Jul 31st 2000
56
                          The pot calling the kettle...
Aug 01st 2000
63
                               Yawn
KoalaLove
Aug 01st 2000
66
                                    Simpler than that
KoalaLove
Aug 01st 2000
68
                                    RE: Simpler than that
Aug 10th 2000
73
                                         Yuck spirit
KoalaLove
Aug 10th 2000
76
                                    RE: Yawn
Aug 10th 2000
72
      RE: Color blindness
KoalaLove
Jul 27th 2000
33
my god....
Jul 27th 2000
40
      RE: my god....
Jul 27th 2000
41
           it'll make you second guess urself......
Aug 01st 2000
62
RE: Why Race is Not Real...Scientifically Speaking
Jul 25th 2000
26
In real life..
KoalaLove
Jul 26th 2000
27
      RE: In real life..
Jul 27th 2000
43
           RE: In real life..
KoalaLove
Jul 27th 2000
45
                RE: In real life..
Jul 28th 2000
46
                     RE: In real life..
KoalaLove
Jul 28th 2000
47
                          I agree Koala
Jul 28th 2000
48
truth indeed
NiaRa
Jul 26th 2000
28
Very good...
KoalaLove
Jul 26th 2000
29
The greatest trick spirit ever pulled...
KoalaLove
Aug 01st 2000
59
haahahahaha
Aug 01st 2000
61
The bottom line- especially for spirit
KoalaLove
Aug 02nd 2000
70

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