>>>But what really ASTONISHED me is
>>YOU GOT FELT!
>
>What do you mean by this
>statement, exactly?

I meant it astonished me that you felt her saying black men (as a collective, like we the borg and shit) ain't been handlin business. When in actuality the step up to fatherhood is on the rise in our communities...

>>What you said is TRUE...If ya
>>heart gets all bruk up
>>real young it can take
>>away your CONFIDENCE in your
>>MANHOOD...However, most men, LIKE THEIR
>>FEMALE COUNTERPARTS, utilize survival skills...And
>>come to whatever conclusions thy
>>will based on what women
>>and relatioships they have chosen
>>to PAY ATTETION to.
>
>Now see HERE is where we
>disagree. I don't think most
>men use survival skills like
>women do. Eventually, a woman
>will open her heart up
>to the right man who
>can touch her in a
>way that makes her feel
>unafraid of being vulnerable again.
>Men don't do that. Even
>when they pursue future relationships,
>they tend to keep SOME
>part of their heart tucked
>away, afraid that they might
>get hurt again, like they
>did before. Like they
>just can't let themselves COMPLETELY
>go again.


That point is dependent on wht man you wit.
Is he fronting the role?
>>>A funny thing, I also noticed
>>is you didn't mention another
>>VERY IMPORTANT rean for the
>>"women ain't shit" mentality...
>>
>>Little boys whose mothers are straight
>>up HOES...It's funny how ya'll
>>NEVER discuss how PROMISCUITY can
>>DEVASTATE children...Do ya'll feel that
>>that topic is LIMITED to
>>HOE MOMMAS??? There are
>>HOE DADDIES in the world.
>
>Yeah, there are plenty of ho-dads
>and ho-moms in the world.
>But as long as they
>emotionally and financially support their
>children with zeal and passion
>once they arrive, I'm not
>mad at 'em.

I'm not discussing a CAPABLE PARENT with a vivrant sex life when I reference HOE...I'm talking 'bout the going to the club every day, comin home with many faces, not handlin they biz runnin after men leavin Jr. with Granma type clucks...& crackheads too.

>>>But ya'll know this already...
>>Yeah, ya'll know, you just don't
>>wanna face up to it
>>like that...
>
>I don't mind facing up to
>it. I KNOW that it
>is the woman who brings
>the man to good things.
>That is why I FIRMLY
>believe that if Black women
>REFUSED to accept inappropriate behavior
>from Black men, y'all would
>shape up. IN A HEARTBEAT.
>'Cuz all o' y'all don't
>WANT white women, and aren't
>going to run to them
>because we are "too demanding".
>But, that is a collective
>decision that Sistahs have to
>make in order to revolutionize
>our own community, and I
>know we just aren't there
>yet. This is something that
>could have been settled at
>the MWM, but ANYway.....


NO DOUBT...More sistahs need to follow your instructions...Ya'll should pay attention to us ad then you'll see you actually RULE our hearts...

>>>Isn't it funny though, that when
>>>women get broken-hearted, and then
>>>are very guarded in dealing
>>>w/ future men, she is
>>>accused of being bitter, but
>>>when men do the same
>>>thing in the form of
>>>"hittin' it and leaving" or
>>>copping a "women ain't shit"
>>>attitude, THEY are just being
>>>"hard", or men. There is
>>>something INHERENTLY WRONG with the
>>>cultural acceptance of that which
>>>exists at this time.
>>
>>
>>Well first off, I don't think
>>that you wanna bring up
>>that whole,
>>"hittin it and quitting" routine in
>>this discussion, cuz NOT ONLY
>>do most of these SILLY young
>>girls DIG that type of
>>SHIT(WHAT A PARADOX!), but a
>>couple of the people in
>>this forum that are responding
>>to this post got here
>>as a result of some
>>SILLY cluck who thought they
>>could lock down some HOE
>>ass man by havin his
>>kid.


>You dealt with alot in this
>segment, but I'll just address
>the part about women like
>for men to "hit it
>and dip". What women do
>YOU know? NO woman wants
>that! Not a one. Now,
>if she is in a
>Space where she wants casual
>relationships, she might sleep around
>while she is on the
>rebound, or whatever. Even
>when women SAY they want
>a casual relationship, if she
>is only sleeping with one
>guy, she is lying, and
>secretly wanting a relationship with
>that guy. Women might PLAY
>like they want to keep
>things light, out of fear
>that admitting their real feelings
>will scare the guy off.

Two things:
1.) In response to your question about WOMEN, I know a LOT of women...That's why I phrased it like I did...Keep in mind, not all GIRLS reach he status of WOMAN when they have kids...That's the only reason I felt so passionately on this ish.

2.) In response to your address of females playing the role in casual relationships- Why? (c) the incessant two year old child.

>>>AIN'T NOTHIN' COMING OUT OF OR
>>GOIN' BETWEEN THOSE THIGHS GONNA
>>KEEP A MAN IF HE
>>CAN'T OR DOESN'T FIRST RESPECT,
>>ADMIRE AND HONESTLY LOVE A
>>WOMAN.
>
>
>TRue, BUT I think Black men
>in particular have this nun-like
>image of what a woman
>has to be to merit
>respect. Like a woman can't
>be sensual, intelligent, and worthy
>of high regard simultaneously .

True. We DO have ass backwards understanding, a lot of times.
But I don't think that a woman has to be a NUN to merit respect; I'm saying, just TRY and act intelligently about ya business & relationships and ya'll straight wit me.

Unfortnately, all I'm used to seeing is wayward negroes. (That's prolly why i spend so much time on this site)

>>>But fatherlessness is TOTALLY a man's
>>fault...
>
>agreed.

I was really trying to be sarcastic...

I'm gonna go out on a limb and assume for the next figure. Take in about 3-7% of this fatherlessness happens also as a result of females who get preg, then decide that they DON'T want the biological father to be involved in that child's life because of whatever reason. This is an example of FORCED FATHER ABSENCE.

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