>Black men, for some time now
>haven't (as a collective) been
>able to step up to
>the plate when it comes
>to the protection of black
>women and children. It is
>quite sad.

Bullshit.
I know PLENTY of men BREAKING THEIR BACKS TO HANDLE THEIRS...
You too stuck in the past darlin' look around you...
Mad bus drivers and custodians are taking INSULTS to put FOOD in they children's mouths and CLOTHES on they backs, EVEN IF that's all they can afford to do.

FURTHERMORE,
WHY BLACK MEN (AS A COLLECTIVE) HAVE TO ANSWER FOR THE ACTIONS OF OTHERS....WHAT ARE WE SUPPOSED TO BE THE BORG?

I can only HOPE you find that BLACK MEN are just as DIVERSE as BLACK WOMEN...That's one of the reasons a lotta chicks get they hearts bruk up by fake thugs, but lemme chill...

>There are too many black folks
>in this world who have
>never known their fathers (myself
>included). This tradition is Inarguably
>one of the problems in
>the community that has breeded
>even more problems (single parent
>households, black on black violence,
>poverty, the use/distribution of drugs,
>etc). The question becomes: What
>can really be done? Shyt...disrespecting
>black women has become such
>a favorite past-time for black
>men that a war of
>the sexes may be coming
>next. Lawd help us!!!

You see, this problem is multi faceted...Death, Incarceration, Irresponsibility, Infidelity to the WIFE/FAMILY, and MOST IMPORTANTLY...
IMMATURE SEXUAL ACTS, IMMATURE PIX FOR FATHERS & PROMISCUITY(<<<<How come females NEVER discuss this OPENLY...Ya'll wanna pull cards? Watch one of those Maury Povich, "WHO'S THE DADDY" episodes some day and tell me about the lack of fatherhood, when a bunch of the shit is just LACK OF WOMANHOOD! And YES that type shit goes down.)


But what really ASTONISHED me is YOU GOT FELT!

I think you are right. But
>a large part of that
>comes from men's original insult
>at the way their mothers
>did not pay enough attention
>to them for whatever reasons,
>which translates into adult mysogyny,
>OR experiencing a broken-heart early
>in life which chafes them
>for life,

^^^^^Excellent point. I'll give you a first person counter point on that last one.

and causes them
>to lack respect for ALL
>women just because ONE woman
>supposedly "done them wrong". That
>is THEIR problem though, and
>THEY have to solve it.

PRETTY MUCH.

>Black women can't do that
>FOR them. We can only
>facilitate, and be supportive. That
>is what Iyanla Vanzant's Spirit
>of a Man is all
>about.

What you said is TRUE...If ya heart gets all bruk up real young it can take away your CONFIDENCE in your MANHOOD...However, most men, LIKE THEIR FEMALE COUNTERPARTS, utilize survival skills...And come to whatever conclusions thy will based on what women and relatioships they have chosen to PAY ATTETION to.

A funny thing, I also noticed is you didn't mention another VERY IMPORTANT rean for the "women ain't shit" mentality...

Little boys whose mothers are straight up HOES...It's funny how ya'll NEVER discuss how PROMISCUITY can DEVASTATE children...Do ya'll feel that that topic is LIMITED to HOE MOMMAS??? There are HOE DADDIES in the world.

But ya'll know this already...
Yeah, ya'll know, you just don't wanna face up to it like that...


>Isn't it funny though, that when
>women get broken-hearted, and then
>are very guarded in dealing
>w/ future men, she is
>accused of being bitter, but
>when men do the same
>thing in the form of
>"hittin' it and leaving" or
>copping a "women ain't shit"
>attitude, THEY are just being
>"hard", or men. There is
>something INHERENTLY WRONG with the
>cultural acceptance of that which
>exists at this time.


Well first off, I don't think that you wanna bring up that whole,
"hittin it and quitting" routine in this discussion, cuz NOT ONLY
do most of these SILLY young girls DIG that type of SHIT(WHAT A PARADOX!), but a couple of the people in this forum that are responding to this post got here as a result of some SILLY cluck who thought they could lock down some HOE ass man by havin his kid.

AIN'T NOTHIN' COMING OUT OF OR GOIN' BETWEEN THOSE THIGHS GONNA KEEP A MAN IF HE CAN'T OR DOESN'T FIRST RESPECT, ADMIRE AND HONESTLY LOVE A WOMAN.

But fatherlessness is TOTALLY a man's fault...Uhhmmm...I also notice we didn't mention chicks who USE they kids and the law to push away a man they hate...Forcing suffering on the man who TRULY LOVES they children.

Ya'll wanna talk. I'm saying...Let's talk about it!!!

>>"We live the now for the
>>promise of the infinite" --Mos
>>Def

If'n that's true I suggest you tell some women to evaluate the
potential fathers of their children with more LOGICAL merit than EMOTIONAL...
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